Goodwill still on track to replace Kroger

Thu, 09/13/2007 - 3:28pm
By: John Munford

Logsdon wants citizens to voice complaints to Kroger

City Hall has been flooded with e-mail complaints about the Kroger Company’s decision to close its store at the Peachtree Crossings East shopping center in Peachtree City, replacing it with a Goodwill store.

Mayor Harold Logsdon has been lobbying Kroger officials to reconsider sub-letting the store to Goodwill, but in a letter to the editor in today’s paper, he expresses frustration that his message is not being understood by either company’s officials, whom he is meeting with today.

“I have talked at length with representatives from Kroger’s corporate and real estate offices and with officials at Goodwill Industries this week. None seem to understand our concerns about this type of store at this location,” Logsdon wrote.

One city official said Kroger’s general response to the city’s concerns has been, “Well, we’re trying to run a business here.”

A number of existing businesses in the center have indicated to city officials that they would be closing if the Goodwill opens in Kroger’s place, as foot traffic in the center will be greatly diminished. That would leave the center vulnerable economically, which is frustrating to many in particular because of the shopping center’s high profile in the city at the intersection of Ga. Highway 54 and Peachtree Parkway.

There are no city ordinances to prevent the Goodwill store from coming, as the property is zoned for general commercial use.

Meanwhile a group of neighbors who live near the store are beginning to organize, having held a meeting last night that included residents from other areas of the city. They are planning a future date to hold a rally, work on getting signatures for a petition, and a possible picketing event, according to a person who attended the meeting.

Planning Commission member Theo Scott said he has received about 50 emails about the matter from residents.

The Kroger, formerly Harris Teeter before that company was bought out by Kroger ... and before that it was a Big Star grocery store.

Logsdon said he while he would “never encourage citizens to boycott the other Kroger stores in Peachtree City, I think it is vitally important for all of you who oppose the decision to contact the managers of the two remaining Krogers to convey your concerns.”

Those managers “may be the ultimate voice to which Kroger Corporate will listen,” Logsdon wrote.

Kroger has been criticized for their action, which is viewed by many as a ploy to keep potential grocery competitors out of the space.

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Submitted by b8tzm on Fri, 09/14/2007 - 11:23am.

Mayor Harold Logsdon is as bigoted as the people he represents. Shame on the citizens who oppose Goodwill and their mission. It is sad that some people turn up their noses about something they know little or nothing about.

I'm looking into arranging for protest in front of the homes of the people protesting. Will march with signs in front of the homes of citizens like Mayor Harold Logsdon and others who oppose this fine organiztions move into Krogers

Bottom line when all is said and done more will be said than done. You can't stop it now. Its a done deal. A legal contract that can't be rescinded so bahhhhhaaaaaaaaaaa LIVE WITH IT !

Shame on Mayor Harold Logsdon and all citizens that are making useless noise about this

Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Fri, 09/14/2007 - 11:58am.

You don't own a home anywhere near the area. IF you do, you haven't been to other centers where Goodwill operates. Take a drive, educate yourself, if you are a homeowner in the area.

Also, you don't know much about the free market, the free market in this case will run many good folks out of that center. Locally owned and operated business's in this case.

Think of me what you will, but I've said elsewhere, I wouldn't wish a Goodwill store on the heart of any community.

Submitted by PTC Dawg on Fri, 09/14/2007 - 11:49am.

I received the following in a forward from a very reputable source. My current objection to Goodwill coming to PTC is the location, not the corporation. Perhaps, after we are all finished dealing with the sub-lease issue, we might want to better educate ourselves about the Goodwill corporation.
"North Georgia Goodwill had income last year of $50 million, which
includes $7.6 million in Government Grants! Their top 6 corporate officers had a combined salary of $1.2 million and their top 5 management types had a combined income of $500K. Their total salaries to run 20 stores and 6 Career Centers totaled $24 million! Work that out and salaries (not other operating expenses) comes to $920,000 in salaries per center! And this is a non-profit? Their career placement only finds jobs for 25% of the people who come to them! They only have 75 "job trainees" among their 20 stores. Goodwill of North Georgia ended the year with a surplus of $18 million!

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Submitted by smartpanz on Fri, 09/14/2007 - 7:58am.

OMG...Get a grip people! I'm guessing none of you that reside in PTC would have a problem with the little Kroger in Fayetteville closing up and opening a Goodwill store huh? Geez you all act like they are putting a strip club there...wait, that would probably be more acceptable than a Goodwill store in the magic kingdom of PTC. I mean come on you guy's and gal's...we can't even get decent "dine in" restaurants over here, meanwhile you all have saturated PTC with restaurants and high end retailers, so now you got what ya with it! Drive your golf cart in either direction and you'll hit a Publix or a Kroger I assure you!

Barbie Dunn

Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Fri, 09/14/2007 - 10:32am.

Much less Fayetteville. I'm frankly not sure where your bitterness is coming from. I like Fayetteville.

I can drive my cart to Kroger, I won't be doing that anymore. I can get to the Publix on the south end of town, I will be going there.

Submitted by winer on Fri, 09/14/2007 - 9:01am.

There is only one Publix inside city limits. It is way down on south end of city, few golf carts could make round trip from the north side or even from the middle of PTC. Publix on Hwy 54 is not connected to the cart path as it is not in PTC. You aren't supposed to drive golf carts over # Hwys.
If Kroger was putting a Goodwill in your back yard in Fayetteville it would be just as offensive. PTC isn't Fayetteville. It wasn't built with the village concept. It is what it is and if you can't comprehend the difference between the proximity of Goodwill to homeowners then you just can't understand the issue. Goodwill would be welcome to most residents in an appropriate location. Goodwill will bring blight to the Peachtree Crossings shopping center. It will cause most of the independent locally owned shops there to go out of business. Remember what happened to the Shopping Center in Fayetteville when Walmart and the neighboring grocery store moved out from behind Krystals. That is what the middle of PTC will look like if this is allowed to proceed.

Waitress I know from Fayetteville came to PTC restaurants to work because tips were terrible over there. Maybe that's why there are no up-scale restaurants to your liking. Lucky you -the highway works to get you to PTC to visit but we have to live here every day.

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Submitted by smartpanz on Fri, 09/14/2007 - 12:28pm.

Oh for heaven sakes, is it a requirement to drive your cart to the grocery store? Heck, crank up the ole car and DRIVE all over PTC until you stumble into one. I am very well aware that PTC isn't Fayetteville which is precisely why I moved from there to Fayetteville years ago. I can appreciate the fact that it was designed with a "village concept", I get that, I sincerely do, however, that same "village" allowed all those high end retailers, "up scale" restaurants, etc. So like I said "ya got what ya got".

Barbie Dunn

Submitted by ATLtoPTC on Fri, 09/14/2007 - 1:16pm.

Why is there so much venom directed at the residents of PTC? And yes, golf carts *are* something special about living and shopping in PTC. Good for our peace of mind (no one can stay angry on a golf cart riding out in the fresh air) and good for the environment. I feel guilty when I crank up the car rather than the golf cart. I love being able to get to the kids' school and local shopping on a golf cart!

I'm truly puzzled at the anger in your posts.

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Submitted by hutch866 on Fri, 09/14/2007 - 9:29am.

When did you drop the h from your name? I heard in Atlanta they're lining up buses to vist the new goodwill. Maybe your waitress friend is just a bad waitress and that's why her tips are bad.

I yam what I yam...Popeye

Submitted by winer on Fri, 09/14/2007 - 10:47am.

In Atlanta they have buses that will take loads to the welfare office too! But I don't want that in the Peachtree Crossing Shopping Center either!
Waitress friend working in PTC makes twice the tips as in Fayetteville. I'm sure Fayetteville's long time ban on anything but beer and wine has had an effect on the types of restaurants and the amount of tips. I think the citizens there made a choice based on what they thought was best for their community. There can be downsides to even the best decisions.

Kroger Corp is about to find out what happens when they make a greed based decision that is a detriment to PTC locally owned independent shops and the residents. Boycott Kroger!!!!!!

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Submitted by hutch866 on Fri, 09/14/2007 - 11:43am.

I was just pulling your leg, whiner, about the buses, you're so easy it takes the fun out of it.

I yam what I yam...Popeye

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Submitted by poipendicular on Fri, 09/14/2007 - 8:34am.

It's not Goodwill itself, it's the location that it is to be occupying. Our little shopping center is not on old 85. It's in the middle of town. It's 5 min away by a slow cart to homes.
Goodwill can not be staffed 24 hours a day. There are many people, residents of our town, or county, and those outside that will clean out their houses, unable to sell the items through Craig's List, yard sales, or Freecycle. They don't care about the tax donation, they just don't want to pay the dump fees, and leave items for Goodwill to dispose of. This is a hazard to the residents. This is all done in the dark of night! Now this will mean our police force will have place an officer on the premise to prevent this from happening.
PTC is not too good for Goodwill as you wrote, PTC is a planned community with businesses shielded by green belts set next to homes. That particular shopping area is not ideal for Goodwill.

Submitted by PTC Dawg on Thu, 09/13/2007 - 9:37pm.

Corporate in Ohio thinks we don't have a problem with the sub-lease! Call David Dillion, President, direct at 513-762-4000 and Tim McNamara Kroger regional real estate at 770-496-7431.Pass these numbers to all that you know. Goodwill plans to move in next month. Wonder who will take over the other 2 Kroger spaces when they have to close...Maybe Whole Foods and Trader Joes Smiling

Submitted by nusport on Fri, 09/14/2007 - 7:32am.

I just called Kroger real estate and was told that Mr. McNamara is on vacation and that the President, Mr. Bruce Lucia, will be meeting with Mayor Logsdon today. I was also told that they have received hundreds of calls this morning.

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Submitted by fancypants on Thu, 09/13/2007 - 5:28pm.

Would it be legal for people to pass out flyers calling for a boycott in front of Kroger, or do you have to be completely off of property of the shopping center?

Just wondering.

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Submitted by mudcat on Thu, 09/13/2007 - 6:08pm.

Kroger does not own property - they are tenants. It is fine to stand outside their front door and hand out flyers. Of course, it would be much more effective to have a picket line - especially on Wednesday mornings - Senior's Day.

Back to my old picture, so I can say "I don't have a dog in this fight" with real feelings.

Submitted by susieq on Thu, 09/13/2007 - 5:31pm.

Check with the city and see if you can get a permit of some sort.

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Submitted by Richard Hobbs on Thu, 09/13/2007 - 4:49pm.

As the corporate offices suggested, its just business.

From my reliable sources I was told that that Landlord offered to allow Kroger to get completely out of their lease. But Kroger refused out of fear that an upscale grocery story of some type might move in there. Trader Joe's was one name mentioned, or even a Whole Foods.

My opinion of Kroger is that they have the right to sub-lease the property to whoever they choose. Coincidentally, we have the right to shop at Publix or Walmart.

I'll make that choice known at the grocery store with my dollars.

Submitted by madprof on Thu, 09/13/2007 - 6:40pm.

My wife and I would live at the Whole Foods. Never again would we darken the doors of a Kroger.

Submitted by new2ptc on Thu, 09/13/2007 - 4:07pm.

If you don’t boycott how else would they know just how serious we think this is.

Call the Corporate Customer line at 866-221-4141 or the area Division at 770-496-7400. I did and told them my family will not be shopping at Kroger until they do the right thing for PTC and stop the deal with Goodwill.

Get on the phone and make your voice heard!

Submitted by Davids mom on Thu, 09/13/2007 - 4:57pm.

I think I'll let the manager of my community Kroger know why I'm crossing the street to go to Publix! A Trader Joe's would be a welcomed addition to Fayette County!

Submitted by loveptc on Thu, 09/13/2007 - 4:03pm.

The manager at the little Kroger told me "this is all the city councils fault because they approved it. Yeah right.

Submitted by susieq on Thu, 09/13/2007 - 4:16pm.

Go back and ask that manager what the city council approved. Kroger is calling all the shots here.

Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Thu, 09/13/2007 - 4:16pm.

It's not his fault, I'll say that. But he should compound the situation by telling lies.

Submitted by winer on Thu, 09/13/2007 - 9:20pm.

I can't imagine who is representing themselves as the manager but it isn't a "him" at Little Kroger. The manager there is a woman. A closedown crew from corporate has been there since Monday. I know they have been telling people that Kroger didn't do this, that it was the shopping center owner leasing to Goodwill. Either they lie as easily as they breathe, or they don't know and make stuff up. It's probably easier for them to do that job if they don't know or admit the truth.

Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Thu, 09/13/2007 - 6:49pm.

I meant to say he "shouldn't" compound the situation by telling lies.

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Submitted by mudcat on Thu, 09/13/2007 - 6:27pm.

I just talked to him and now his story is that "The city should do something" I'm not impressed with him at all and of course the city can't really do anything.

The boycott of the other Krogers is probably the best attention-getting step, but be sure to tell the managers at those two Krogers what you are doing and why.

Back to my old picture, so I can say "I don't have a dog in this fight" with real feelings.

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