PTC officials gauging Senoia, Coweta sewer plans

Thu, 08/23/2007 - 3:04pm
By: John Munford

A Monday meeting between Senoia and Coweta County officials about expanding sewer service in Senoia drew two interested parties from just across the county line.

Peachtree City Mayor Harold Logsdon and new city councilman Mike Harman both attended the meeting as members of the public. The meeting featured the Senoia City Council and the Coweta County Commission along with developer Tom Reese, whose proposed 3,100 home subdivision will be built just across from Peachtree City’s industrial park in unincorporated Coweta County.

Harman said Wednesday he and Logsdon were just interested in gauging what Senoia’s plans for growth are.

“We wanted to find out if Senoia plans to do any additional development or annexing in the city limits,” Harman said, noting that Senoia residents join Peachtree City commuters in using Ga. Highway 74.

“Whatever happens down there impacts us,” Harman said.

Senoia recently was approved for a permit to discharge up to two million gallons a day of treated sewage into Line Creek, but city officials have said they only estimated needing up to one million gallons a day to meet the city’s future needs.

Logsdon said he found it interesting that when Senoia officials sought out Peachtree City to treat its sewage, Senoia only asked Peachtree City to treat 500,000 gallons a day.

Now, Senoia has four times as much capacity as it sought from Peachtree City, Logsdon, adding that he wanted to attend the meeting to stay abreast of developments on the issue.

Coweta County officials and developer Reese are interested in having Senoia’s sewer access extended to the northwest to serve the McIntosh Village area, which will also have some retail and office uses.

Reese has pledged between $6-8 million to contribute towards construction of a sewage treatment plant. He has said McIntosh Village’s development will proceed despite the recent actions of the Peachtree City Council to abandon the extension of TDK Boulevard into Coweta County, which would have been a vital link to Hwy. 74 for Reese’s property, which totals more than 1,500 acres.

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Submitted by Don Haddix on Fri, 08/24/2007 - 8:31am.

A couple of things struck home here.

First, Mayor Lodgsdon attended the meeting, as part of the audience?

Is this a reaction to my saying, at the Special Meeting, there needed to be advocacy for PTC, with a visible presence at meetings? Or that saying it isn't under PTC control is not a sufficient answer?

How about appointed Council Member Harman being concerned about the impact upon PTC? When he was on WASA he voted to move forward on the tie-in to Tyrone. Then said such tie-in would bring in revenue for PTC, at the Special Meeting.

What about traffic impact concerns for PTC and PTC commuters on that issue?

With all due respect, this seems more of a campaign maneuver to me, than anything else.

Don Haddix
Candidate for PTC Council, Post 1
donhaddix.com


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Submitted by nuk on Sat, 08/25/2007 - 7:55am.

:Is this a reaction to my saying, at the Special Meeting,
:there needed to be advocacy for PTC, with a visible presence
:at meetings? Or that saying it isn't under PTC control is
:not a sufficient answer?

They are quoted as saying they attended the meeting to see if it had an impact on PTC. As far as it being a reaction to what you said at the special meeting, I think you might be giving yourself a little too much importance.

As far as it being some campaign maneuver when one of them isn't up for reelection and the other knows a bit about water/sewer issues since he was head of WASA and this meeting was about water/sewer, it seems the only "campaign maneuvering" is being done by yourself.

NUK


Submitted by freedomofinfo on Fri, 08/24/2007 - 12:09pm.

Don- you should really look very closely at any agreements between Tyrone and any other city!! Watch your back.

Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Fri, 08/24/2007 - 9:01am.

And this letter isn't a campaign maneuver? C'mon, we're smarter than that.

Frankly, WASA is missing the income lost from Photocircuits leaving town. I think we all realize that.

I also don't see where being unwilling to "sell" sewer capacity to neighborhing communities will keep them from developing. It certainly hasn't had that effect to this point.

That being said, I would say attending this meeting may be more about TDK than anything. If they continue to more forward with huge developments, I would say TDK is less likely to happen.

Submitted by johenry on Fri, 08/31/2007 - 7:12pm.

What lost income? Steve Brown said they made $400,000 over budget last year. Where in the heck is the loss?

Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Fri, 08/31/2007 - 10:35pm.

Steve wanted a 24 hour a day Walgreens at 54/Peachtree Parkway too. Good thing he isn't always right.

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Submitted by Don Haddix on Sat, 08/25/2007 - 9:38pm.

Is this a reaction to my saying, at the Special Meeting,
:there needed to be advocacy for PTC, with a visible presence
:at meetings? Or that saying it isn't under PTC control is
:not a sufficient answer?

They are quoted as saying they attended the meeting to see if it had an impact on PTC. As far as it being a reaction to what you said at the special meeting, I think you might be giving yourself a little too much importance.

Step back and analyze this situation.

First, Mayor Logsdon didn't do this before. And there were plenty of meetings, concerning Coweta development, including Senoia, in the last two years, to justify the going.

So, why now, not before? What stimulated his going, when he never went to any of the meetings, concerning these issues, in the last two years?

The upcoming election is the only thing different.

As far as it being some campaign maneuver when one of them isn't up for reelection and the other knows a bit about water/sewer issues since he was head of WASA and this meeting was about water/sewer, it seems the only "campaign maneuvering" is being done by yourself.

An election is the time to point out differences between candidates. Also, contradictions in positions that reflect upon how they will govern.

It is a fact the Mayor voted for Harman. It is a fact Harman supports how the Council has been governing for the last two years. It is a fact Harman voted for proceeding, while on WASA, to tie into Tyrone. It is a fact he sees it, as a Council Member, as a way to increase revenue by allowing it. It is a fact, that to date, such tie-ins have been non-starters for Peachtree City Councils. It is a fact that being concerned about such actions in Senoia, while being supportive of them with Tyrone, is a contradiction. It is a fact being represented at such meetings is an already stated part of my agenda, but brand new to the Mayor, in example. It is a fact I oppose the tie-in with Tyrone.

A tie-in with Tyrone will promote high density development, with accompanying traffic. So, a problem if Senoia does it, but not if we do it?

And yes, it is a fact I am running for the Post and I stating these facts to differentiate Harman and myself.

Now, as to being a 'maneuver,' I will leave that assessment up to each voter. I don't see making a factual statement as a maneuver.

But I do see someone suddenly doing what they didn't do for two years, and another person showing concern about someone else doing exactly what they are proposing to do as a maneuver.

To try to limit all campaigning to just the candidate is a false argument.

Don Haddix
Candidate for PTC Council, Post 1
donhaddix.com


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Submitted by bad_ptc on Sat, 08/25/2007 - 10:00pm.

"The upcoming election is the only thing different."

Mayor Logsdon isn't running for reelection. His term isn't over yet.

Questions for the candidate:

If this issue is of such concern to you; did you attend?

What meetings have you attended?

What were your stated positions at the meetings you have attend?

Are you on record as voicing an opinion at any city meetings?

What's your history with PTC?

If you want us to vote for you, we need to get to know you first.

If you have a WEB site, please provide the address.


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Submitted by Don Haddix on Sat, 08/25/2007 - 10:25pm.

My website address is in the sig line of every post I have made. And in my Letter to the Editor.

I have attended many meetings over my 20 years in PTC. I have met, one on one, with past mayors, more than once. As well as numerous communications with the City Staff and contracted engineering, as both an individual and HOA President. County contacts, as well.

Yes, I am on and off record, over time.

Hope that helps and thanks for asking.

Don Haddix
Candidate for PTC Council, Post 1
donhaddix.com


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Submitted by Don Haddix on Fri, 08/24/2007 - 12:36pm.

And this letter isn't a campaign maneuver? C'mon, we're smarter than that.

You miss the point and distinction.

Mayor Logsdon has not done this in the past.

So, why now? And why with an appointed, candidate Council Member?

I am consistent on both advocacy and against tie-ins that negatively impact PTC.

Frankly, WASA is missing the income lost from Photocircuits leaving town. I think we all realize that.

Again, you miss the point.

Concern over the impact of this tie-in while in favor of our tie-in with Tyrone, which will also affect PTC, is the point.

You see no contradictions here? No double standard? No similarity to cutting taxes promises while vowing, in a more convoluted way, to assume the Tennis Center debt?

Worked once. Why not again.

I also don't see where being unwilling to "sell" sewer capacity to neighborhing communities will keep them from developing. It certainly hasn't had that effect to this point.

Density. You can do high density with sewer lines. You cannot do high density on septic.

Density translates to more traffic.

Lack of density cuts profit margins, thus discouraging development.

That being said, I would say attending this meeting may be more about TDK than anything.

But my points remain relevant, as stated.

Don Haddix
Candidate for PTC Council, Post 1
donhaddix.com


Submitted by CI5835 on Sun, 08/26/2007 - 12:12pm.

As a candidate for city council you are suppossed to be above the constant bickering and mud-slinging that takes place on this site. Mcdonoughdawg really is correct and you are going to hurt your campaign and chances of getting elected if you continue. just a friendly piece of advise.

Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Fri, 08/24/2007 - 9:41pm.

I'm not into breaking down every point of a post like you so kindly did. Double talk isn't my forte. It appears you're more about arguing than finding answers to the problems.

You're not running against Logsdon, you need to realize that. Just because he went to a meeting, is not a reason for you to get bent out of shape.

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