Evidence left behind may ID F’ville bank robber

Thu, 08/16/2007 - 1:24pm
By: John Munford
Police hoping for DNA match on criminal database



Click HERE to see the photo of the gunman.

The man who robbed the Southcrest Bank in Fayetteville shortly after 9 a.m. Wednesday came prepared to execute the crime.

But he was sloppy, dropping an estimated three-quarters of the money in a wooded area behind the bank as he made his getaway, said Beverly Trainor of the Fayetteville Police Department. The gunman also left behind the white glove that he wore on his right hand during the heist, Trainor added.

Though the gunman remained unidentified as of Thursday afternoon, the glove and other evidence is being processed by the Federal Bureau of Investigation for possible DNA samples, Trainor said, noting that the glove was “really sweaty.” If DNA can be recovered, it could then be compared against databases containing DNA samples of known criminals to perhaps identify the gunman, Trainor said.

The FBI also is processing ballistics evidence in the case, and will also be offering a reward in the case, Trainor added.

A video of the robbery released by Fayetteville police showed the suspect walking into the bank wearing a white glove on his right hand while carrying a yellow plastic bag, with his left hand concealed apparently in his pocket. About three steps after entering in the bank he pulls out his left hand to reveal a silver handgun, which was either in his pocket or concealed under his baggy oversized shirt.

Almost immediately after entering the bank, the gunman fired one shot into a wall, but no one was injured, Trainor said.

Another camera angle of video showed the gunman approaching the teller’s counter, throwing the plastic bag on the counter, aggressively thrusting the pointed gun in the teller’s direction and giving what appear to be verbal commands (the video does not contain any sound). At one point he turns around and points the gun towards what appears to be a desk area and then he turns back to the teller, grabbing the yellow bag with the cash inside before he leaves the bank.

Police and sheriff's deputies combed the area looking for the suspect on foot with K-9 dogs and overhead with the helicopter from the Fayette County Sheriff’s Department, but he could not be located, police said.

It was initially thought that the gunman may have been involved in a second robbery of a bank in East Point hours later in which two arrests were made, but that has proved not to be the case so far, according to the Federal Bureau of Investigation. It is still a possibility, however, that one of them may have committed the SouthCrest robbery, Trainor added.

Police described the suspect as a tall thin black male with a black hat with a "G" University of Georgia logo, and wearing a blue button-up shirt. He also wore sunglasses.

K-9 units were unsuccessful in trying to pick up the suspect's scent and the sheriff's department's helicopter assisted in the search, police said.

Nearby schools, including East Fayette Elementary, Hood Avenue, Fayetteville Intermediate, Fayette County High School and the Lafayette Education Center were put on lockdown, which lasted about half an hour, police said.

The school lockdown occurred just as police received reports the suspect was possibly near the Just Brakes business and moments later at a practice field at Fayette County High School. School spokesperson Melinda Berry-Dreisbach said the system's administrative office also remained under lockdown.

The gunman fled the bank, located at the intersection of Ga. Highway 85 and Kathi Avenue, with an undetermined amount of money, Trainor said. An automatic phone system was used to call local businesses to alert them to be cautious and on the lookout for the suspect and the automated message also shared a description of the suspect.

There were four employees inside the bank, but no customers, at the time of the robbery, police said.

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Submitted by dollaradayandfound on Wed, 08/15/2007 - 5:13pm.

When asking for a gun permit, do they snear at you? Do they whisper and look around the corner at you?
Is the $30 a poll tax?
Do you have to be able to read and write and see well?
Do you now have a record on file? Do they check it against your family's record?
Can it be a cannon?
An AK-47?
Does a sheriff's deputy follow you home?
Does it make any difference whether you are white, black, brown, yellow, or a mixture?
Can a preacher's wife from North Carolina get one?

Submitted by skyspy on Thu, 08/16/2007 - 9:58pm.

In Fayette County they give you a standing ovation for not being a "bedwetter or a thumb sucker".

Do you know why? Didn't think so!

I know it seems odd to you and bladder, but most of the "normal" people with all of their synapses firing.......(are you sitting down?) HATE CRIME!!!

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Submitted by pentapenguin on Thu, 08/16/2007 - 1:45pm.

When asking for a gun permit, do they snear at you? Do they whisper and look around the corner at you?

Nope, not at all. I think they get a lot of people asking for permits so they are fast and know what to do. I would think though if someone with diminished mental abilities came in they might prevent that person from getting a permit so I'll be sure to mention you to them so they can be on the lookout. Eye-wink

Is the $30 a poll tax?
You really are thick, aren't you? Eye-wink Last time I checked, a permit does not have anything to do with voting. Do you just tack random sentences onto your rants or what?

Do you have to be able to read and write
Yes, generally it's a good idea to be able to read and write to be able to fill out a form. I know it's difficult, but some of us somehow managed to do it.

Do you now have a record on file?

I'll just ask you a question -- where's your record? Does Dr. Denise have yours? Laughing out loud

Do they check it against your family's record?

We got this unique idea in US law -- you are responsible for your own actions and your family has nothing to do with it. Sadly we've moved away from that idea somewhat with "I had a bad childhood!" defenses.

Does a sheriff's deputy follow you home?
No, never has...did one escort you back from the facility? Eye-wink

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Submitted by dollaradayandfound on Thu, 08/16/2007 - 2:28pm.

These questions had nothing to do with me!
These were questions asked of poor people in Mississippi in the 1960s after they had tried to register to vote!
The answer to all of them was, YES!
Somehow, unlike now, in those days we didn't want people voting much.

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Submitted by pentapenguin on Mon, 08/20/2007 - 11:32pm.

Still waiting $ for you to explain to us ignorant masses how we went from licenses to voting. Smiling

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Submitted by pentapenguin on Thu, 08/16/2007 - 10:44pm.

Hey $, humor me since I'm not as smart as you, how did we go from firearms licenses to voting? Did I just miss a bunch of posts?

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Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Wed, 08/15/2007 - 12:20pm.

In my opinion.

2ndly, I swear that's not me. Smiling

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Submitted by Tug13 on Wed, 08/15/2007 - 12:40pm.

My oldest child is really going to be mad about this. He's a true red and black bulldog. (it wasn't him, he's at work, and that guy is too short anyway) Smiling


Submitted by thebeaver on Wed, 08/15/2007 - 12:11pm.

Police described the suspect as a tall thin black male with a black hat with a "G" on it also wearing a blue button-up shirt.

This city is beyond hope. Just re-name it Crimedale South and get it over with. Time to pack up the glocks and move further south for a few years. (Until more minorities and the crime they bring follow)

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Submitted by AF A-10 on Wed, 08/15/2007 - 3:39pm.

and good luck if you think no blacks equals no crime. I actually mean this when I say that I hope you don't have neighbors like me or my family. That would be a waste of good neighbors, in my humblest of opinions.

Kevin "Hack" King


Submitted by thebeaver on Thu, 08/16/2007 - 9:49pm.

I never said that no blacks equal no crime. However, I do believe that blacks are comitting the majority of the crimes. There have been 3 armed robberies in the last week within a mile of where I live. I now fear for my family's safety because these thunks (thug-punks) are too lazy and stupid to go get a job. No, they have to terrorize our community and drive good people away.
Now, if you have a problem with my statements, I really could care less and I suggest that you go perform a physical impossibility on yourself.

Have a nice day.

Submitted by Davids mom on Thu, 08/16/2007 - 10:35pm.

Where ya gonna go? I have never in my life seen as many black people as I've seen in Georgia. The largest population of African Americans is in the south - and more are coming 'home' everyday. Where ya gonna go? I love my 'United Nations' neighborhood; my diverse church; my new 'county' rich in American history; the neighbors and their children who speak and wave politely. As I listened to the news tonight - I think there is some type of gang initiation activity going on throughout our country. Stay safe Beaver. Life is too short to live it in fear. Idaho awaits you. . . but it is cold there in the winter!!

Submitted by thebeaver on Sun, 08/19/2007 - 7:19pm.

"The largest population of African Americans is in the south - and more are coming 'home' everyday."

I am a proud American.
If African Americans (meaning, Africans first, Americans second) were truly "coming home" everday as you state, wouldn't they be going back to Africa, since that is where home really is?

Submitted by Davids mom on Mon, 08/20/2007 - 6:20am.

In my lifetime, and the lifetime of my parents, grand parents, great grandparents and great-great grandparents we have been called Negros, blacks, coons, the n word, colored, etc., etc., etc. We have been denied – by law – the dignity of full citizenship in this country. Yet members of my family have fought for this country since the Revolutionary War. Beaver, did you know that the first man to die in the revolution against Britain was Crispus Attucks, a black man? While others proudly taught their children their European heritage, the continent of Africa, in many early American history books, was portrayed as a continent of simple heathens who were just waiting to be ‘salvaged’ and brought to America to work in the rice and cotton fields of this country. Did you know that it was illegal in the south to teach a ‘black’ to read? I am most grateful to those blacks and whites from the early days that saw the injustice in this thinking and were persistent in correcting the wrongs that were imposed upon a nation whose words found in the Constitution speak of freedom and equality for all men (and women). During the years before the 1960’s, blacks joined hands with their white brothers to promote the American way of life. Even while segregated in the military during WWI and WWII, blacks fought for the ‘freedom’ that America promised the rest of the world – and ‘promoted’ as existing at HOME. Beaver, since Alex Haley wrote the book Roots, blacks in this country realized that they did not have to accept the ‘one-word’ nomenclature given to them by others. Blacks realized that they too could join the hyphenated American society of Irish-Americans, Italian- Americans, English-Americans, German-Americans, Swedish-Americans, etc., who are proud of their family background and history. Because we have joined the hyphenated society of this country does not make us any less proud of our American roots than those of the ‘white’ hyphenated society. Most blacks, who were brought to this country, were brought to the south. To most blacks, the ‘south’ is their home. Ignorance and bigotry cannot change that fact. . . and that’s the truth! Run Beaver, run! You are part of a dying breed. Have a pleasant journey!

Submitted by thebeaver on Tue, 08/21/2007 - 7:50pm.

As bad as the slavery, racism, segregation, and civil rights violations were in the past, I get the idea that you really don't want to move past that and appreciate what you have now. You want to keep that race card tucked away and bring it out to try to make whites, who had absolutely nothing to do with the wrongs from the past, feel guilt. Well, that dog don't hunt. Quit bringing up the wrongs from decades ago and move on!

You never did answer my question - If blacks were truly "coming home", wouldn't they be going back to Africa? I know that as a person of pallor, if I were truly "going back home" as you say, I would be moving back to eastern europe.

I think that you are just fine with the increase in crime in Fayetteville as long as it drives whitey out. Maybe you want a chocolate Fayetteville like mayor Ray "chocolate city" Nagin wants a chocolate New Orleans.

Yeah, just turn on the Brinks, lock the doors, and buy a doberman - that's the ticket.
Don't do anything productive or call upon the NAACP to address the problem, no.

Blacks are given every opportunity that whites are and more, thanks to race based, discriminatory laws such as "affirmative action". With all of these opportunities, when is the black community going to collectively pull themselves up by their bootstraps, stop robbing and terrorizing innocent people, and start becoming productive, law abiding citizens. Stop pulling out the race card and stop defending the cockroaches like the one that robbed the bank.

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Submitted by Voice of Fayett... on Tue, 08/21/2007 - 8:35pm.

Beaver is right, Mom....Plenty of time and plenty of opportunity has gone by to afford all Americans, minorities included, the opportunity to compete. If your "Going Home" how come it's not back to Africa? Answer: because it is damn good here in America. Look at all the non-English speaking immigrants whose families succeeded. All we hear today, though, with the race card is "We have had it so hard. Give us the Chocolate City free pass." One question--- how come the NAACP doesn't help the other racial minorities ? That speaks volumes.


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Submitted by Denise Conner on Tue, 08/21/2007 - 9:33pm.

“The term hyphenated American is an epithet from the early 20th century to refer to Americans who consider themselves of a distinct cultural origin other than the United States, and who claim to hold allegiance to both."

The term "hyphenated" was in slang use by 1893, and was common as a derogatory term by 1904.

President Woodrow Wilson regarded "hyphenated Americans" with suspicion, saying, "Any man who carries a hyphen about with him carries a dagger that he is ready to plunge into the vitals of this Republic whenever he gets ready."

President Theodore Roosevelt spoke to an Irish Catholic audience in 1915 the following words:

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism.

When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad.

But a hyphenated American is not an American at all.

This is just as true of the man who puts "native" before the hyphen as of the man who puts German or Irish or English or French before the hyphen. Americanism is a matter of the spirit and of the soul.

Our allegiance must be purely to the United States [not the black community first]. We must unsparingly condemn any man who holds any other allegiance. But if he is heartily and singly loyal to this Republic, then no matter where he was born [or what skin color], he is just as good an American as any one else.

The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities [blacks & Hispanics against whites], an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans [Hispanic-Am. or black-Am.], each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans [Latinos or blacks] of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic.

The men who do not become Americans and nothing else are hyphenated Americans; and there ought to be no room for them in this country. The man who calls himself an American citizen and who yet shows by his actions that he is primarily the citizen of a foreign land, plays a thoroughly mischievous part in the life of our body politic. He has no place here; and the sooner he returns to the land to which he feels his real heart-allegiance, the better it will be for every good American.

There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

For an American citizen to vote as a German-American, an Irish-American, or an English-American [African-American, Hispanic-American or whatever is the current term], is to be a traitor to American institutions; and those hyphenated Americans who terrorize American politicians by threats of the foreign [black and/or Hispanic] vote are engaged in treason to the American Republic.

. . . . .

All of us, no matter from what land our parents came, no matter in what way we may severally worship our Creator, must stand shoulder to shoulder in a united America for the elimination of race and religious prejudice.

. . . . .

Our aim must be, not to make life easy and soft, not to soften soul and body, but to fit us in virile fashion to do a great work for all mankind.

. . . . .

We must abhor wrongdoing, and disdain to commit it, and we must no less disdain the baseness of spirit which lamely submits to wrongdoing.

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"To educate a person in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society." — Theodore Roosevelt


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Submitted by AF A-10 on Wed, 08/22/2007 - 5:27am.

In describing Americans that happen to be of non-anglo roots, what is acceptable for us to call ourselves? How should police departments, census bureaus, and legal forms refer to "us"? I had no idea calling ourselves African Americans was slowly causing this great country to crumble under its own weight. I imagine you long for the day when the divide will simply be conservatives versus "liberals". I await your memo, and will begin referring to myself accordingly Smiling

Kevin "Hack" King


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Submitted by Denise Conner on Wed, 09/05/2007 - 6:58am.

How should police departments, census bureaus, and legal forms refer to "us"? -- Maybe they shouldn't be asking that question at all! That's a novel idea, isn't it? Ever wonder why that question is asked? I don't answer it (as well as a lot of other questions asked). Now that's the correct use of the term right to privacy. Eye-wink

What you choose to call yourself is a reflection of your way of looking at life and is either a conscious decision or just following-the-crowd type of thinking, i.e., not ever really thinking about it. Those who choose to be a subset of Americans do it for a reason, and today it is used for political power and influence (NAACP, Southern Poverty Law Center, Rainbow/PUSH Coalition, etc.) and special treatment, such as affirmative action.

Actually, all human beings belong to one race: HUMAN. We are all descendants of Adam and Eve and of Noah.

See "The Fallacy of Racism."

Conceptions of race, as well as specific racial groupings, vary by culture and over time, and are often controversial, for scientific reasons as well as because of their impact on social identity and identity politics. Many scientists contend that while the features on which racial categorizations are made may be based on genetic factors, arbitrarily dividing persons into groups based on selected hereditary features remains a social concept.

(To which "race" does a child who has parents from differing "races" belong, i.e., one white and one black? What about that person's children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren?)

As the “science” of anthropology took shape in the 19th century (influenced by Darwin's theories), races were almost universally considered to reflect group differences in moral character and intelligence.

Such thinking coincided with the eugenics movement of the late 19th and early 20th centuries, which asserted as self-evident the biological inferiority of particular groups.

Margaret Sanger, socialist founder of Planned Parenthood: "The lower down in the scale of human development we go [Darwinian evolution] the less sexual control we find. It is said that the aboriginal Australian, the lowest known species of the human family [and one step below African Negroes -- the races in order of "superiority": Caucasoid (or Caucasian), Mongoloid, Negroid, and Australoid (ideas popularized by biologist Thomas Huxley, known as "Darwin's Bulldog" for his advocacy of Darwin's theory of evolution)], just a step higher than the chimpanzee in brain development, has so little sexual control that police authority alone prevents him from obtaining sexual satisfaction on the streets."

(I didn't realize that chimps care one way or the other about police authority. Puzzled But I bet Genarlow Wilson and Sen. Craig do now.)

(During the 1960 presidential elections, the promiscuous Sanger was dismayed by candidate John F. Kennedy's position on birth control -- Kennedy did not believe birth control should be a matter of government policy. She threatened to leave the country if Kennedy were elected, but evidently reconsidered after Kennedy won the election. There truly is "nothing new under the sun.")

Hack, you're probably no more African than I am British or Irish or Scottish. In fact, your ancestors have likely been in this country longer than mine. (Unless, of course, I count my "Native" American ancestor. Wonder if Ward Churchill's old job is still available. Puzzled ) Laughing out loud

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“It can not be emphasized too strongly nor too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions but on the gospel of Christ.”
Patrick Henry


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Submitted by AF A-10 on Wed, 09/05/2007 - 9:45am.

Let's say you are a doctor and you are studying cycle cell anemia. How would you refer to the demographic nature of your patients? Say you were an oncologist trying to reach the group most susceptible to skin cancer. How would you describe the group to be focused upon? Suppose you were trying to explain why members of the Jenna 6 were up on murder charges in a high school fight, the weapons being their tennis shoes, yet "other" students who struck others with bottles were charged with misdemeanors: How might you explain the difference in charges with respect to the accused individuals?

Last question: If you are a "right to privacy" type who actually sounds to agree with the ACLU on this one, what do you think odf the PAtriot Act?

Kevin "Hack" King


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Submitted by Denise Conner on Thu, 09/06/2007 - 7:07am.

Throwing things at me now? Laughing out loud

Here's quite an interesting article that will answer the medical aspects of this debate: “Genetics and Race: Researchers Explore Why Rates of Diseases Vary from One Population to Another”

The problem is, what constitutes a race might seem obvious to most people, but race doesn't mean much from a biological standpoint.

Genetically speaking, nothing differentiates one race from another. All humans share the same set of genes. There is no African gene, no Caucasian gene, no Asian gene.

Certainly, genetic differences exist and even small differences can have big effects; consider that animals as different as chimpanzees and humans [NOT animals] share 99 percent of their genetic code.

And even among humans, genetic variations obviously exist between individuals. Some genes are expressed, or "turned on," in some people and not in others. Some genes tend to develop mutations, which may alter body functioning or physical appearance, and these mutations get passed on to offspring.

But these variations don't occur neatly along racial lines. Scientists calculate that there is an average genetic variation of 5 percent between racial groups. But that leaves a whopping 95 percent of variation that occurs within racial groups [i.e., between individuals].

Even the most obvious distinguishing factor -- skin color -- can vary enormously within a race, said Joseph L. Graves Jr., an evolutionary biologist at Arizona State University West in Phoenix. And the dark skin of a sub-Saharan African is not unlike the dark skin of a Caucasoid in India, added Graves, author of a 2001 book, "The Emperor's New Clothes: Biological Theories of Race at the Millenium."

That's why most scientists say race is a social construct, not a biological one. In other words, social rules determine what races are and what they mean.

For instance, someone is commonly considered "black" if he has one black parent and one white parent, or even if he just has one black grandparent. From a biological standpoint, however, there is no logic for such labelling.

. . . . .

"Nobody would make clinical decisions based on a racial profile," he said. "Race is a very crude predictor of any sort of differential response to medication."

Dr. Alastair J.J. Wood, a pharmacologist at Vanderbilt University, said the variation between members of a race [individuals] makes it impossible to use race as the basis for tailoring drug therapies.

. . . . .

Sickle cell anemia, most closely identified in the United States with black Americans, is often found in African and Mediterranean peoples, Ferrell noted, apparently because that genetic mutation offered an advantage in battling the malaria endemic to those areas. Sickle cell anemia is rarely seen in descendants of people from northern Europe, where malaria is absent.

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The risk of inheriting sickle cell anemia really comes down to genetics. For a baby to be born with sickle cell anemia, both parents have to carry the sickle cell gene.

The gene is particularly common among people with African, Spanish, Mediterranean, Middle Eastern and Indian ancestry. In the United States, it most commonly affects blacks and Hispanics.

There's a lot more I could say about various diseases and lifestyle choices vs. genetics but not now. Any questions?

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So, to answer your question, I guess I'd just ask for a medical history and take into account possible genetic factors and leave race discussions with Jesse Jackson. Smiling

As far as "Jena 6," a quick answer: hate and prejudice (common to all "races"). Sad

The Patriot Act -- Judge Andrew Napolitano's books Constitutional Chaos: What Happens When the Government Breaks its Own Laws and The Constitution in Exile: How the Federal Government Has Seized Power by Rewriting the Supreme Law of the Land have some very good points in them. I haven't read them recently enough for thoughtful discussion.

"Fierce Watchdog of the Constitution" by Nat Hentoff

A month after the September 11 terrorist attacks, Judge Napolitano wrote in the New Jersey Law Journal: "In a democracy, personal liberties are rarely diminished overnight. Rather, they are lost gradually, by acts of well-meaning people, with good intentions, amid public approval. But the subtle loss of freedom is never recognized until the crisis is over and we look back in horror. And then it is too late."

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"Those Who Sacrifice Liberty for Security Deserve Neither" – attributed to Benjamin Franklin


Submitted by Davids mom on Wed, 09/05/2007 - 8:25am.

Walk a mile in my shoes. I admit after over 60 years - there are some holes in my pair! I became a hyphenated American at birth - because my skin was dark. I lived through the 40's, 50's, etc. Remember Denise I would not have been able to vote in most of Georgia legally in 1960. I love the fact that I am able to live as a contributing American in Fayette County! America is my home, African-American in my culture. I never felt more American than when I was in Africa. I don't feel threatened when visiting a home of a 'white' American who is proud of his or her heritage, which includes European culture. Why does anyone feel that one who is proud of his or her heritage is un-American? I do not disagree with your lofty viewpoint of how America should be. I know that we are closer to that ideal then ever before - but we are not there yet. Maybe we should post the results of the Innocent Project - to understand the fear that many African-American mothers have regarding their sons and many wives regarding their husbands. Remember, Obama has Secret Service protection because of the threats against his life - due mainly to racism.

The 'black' community is in crisis - not from fear of 'whites' as was the case in the 40's etc. - but from fear of their own killing their children. I agree with you wholeheartedly regarding crime in Fayette County. We, as citizens of Fayette County are apparently targets of thugs - reportedly the majority being black from other counties - WE, not just 'white' people. I respect the fact that most posters are against CRIME - not race. I applauded a TV station, when covering the baggy pant issue, showed that both white and black males are wearing this 'trendy' style - which to me represents the 'thug life'. It also showed that there are MANY in the black community who are against this life style and the dress that is associated with it. At least three of the new schools in Atlanta are targeting young children who might be impressed with this 'thug life' by setting standards of dress, etc. (Two single gender schools and the Ron Clark School) I would hope that FCBE also establishes a dress code and a code of behavior standards throughout the county. (This may already be) Character as well as academic skills can be enriched in the public schools. Anyway - thanks for your research. Just sharing my perspective.

Submitted by thebeaver on Fri, 08/17/2007 - 12:42am.

I agree with you, - it's getting harder and harder to find places in the metro area that are not being run down due to the crime that cockroaches like the bank robber are committing. I'm glad to find someone like yourself who agrees with me. It's amazing how fast a nice place like Fayetteville can go right down the tubes as the cockroaches with no sense of decency or respect for human life move in and start shooting the place up.
I find it interesting that you obviously take so much joy in the fact that I fear for my family's life. With the latest statistics on black on black murder's, I would think you would be a little more fearful yourself.

Submitted by Davids mom on Fri, 08/17/2007 - 6:17am.

Fear can kill. I certainly take no joy in knowing that someone is living in fear. I've lived around blacks, whites, Asian, and Hispanics all my life. As a child, I only feared whites because I was taught that 'they' did evil things to blacks and could not be trusted. Fortunately as a young child, I had trouble telling who was black and who was white - my family has skin colors of the rainbow - so if someone was nice - I thought they were 'black'. According to statistics, my chance of being killed by a black person is higher than yours. . . and I'm not living in fear. I have chosen to live around people with kindred tastes. I can afford to do that - and I'm grateful for that. I selected Fayetteville because of the lifestyle here, the friendliness, the respect that I witness daily by citizens doing deliberate acts of kindness. I'm not letting any thug initiation or meth growing/child molesting residents’ run me out of town. Those kinds of filth live anywhere; invade anywhere. I'm putting my Brinks on, closing my garage door, letting my neighbors know when I'm leaving town - and enjoying the change of seasons. Peace.

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Submitted by slider on Wed, 08/15/2007 - 1:48pm.

I'll be packing up and headed to the gun store for ammo.
Thats as far as I'm going!


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Submitted by hutch866 on Wed, 08/15/2007 - 1:46pm.

I hear Idaho is pretty short on minorities.

I yam what I yam...Popeye


Submitted by freedomofinfo on Wed, 08/15/2007 - 4:00pm.

After all of the callous remarks made regarding minorities on this blog- you all get what you deserve!! I hear Fayetteville is pretty short on intelligence!

Submitted by Davids mom on Wed, 08/15/2007 - 1:25pm.

While watching the news - Fayetteville very seldom makes prime time news because of the crime here. Our country is in trouble - or we just prefer to hear about the crime in our country rather than deliberate acts of kindness. Kudos to the law enforcement for their actions in protecting the citizens of this county. Having worked in gang areas in Los Angeles for years - and experienced many a school lockdown - I know that the officers in Fayette County have planned well for such events. I'm impressed that citizens in the area even received information via the telephone. Crime is everywhere - we just don't have as much of it as urban areas do. Fayette County has grown - but according to the paper - has the slowest growth rate in Georgia. We, as citizens, must help law enforcement by being vigilant - so that we can give accurate accounts of any crime that we witness. The photo is excellent. I hope that someone recognizes this thief - and he is captured as I type.

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Submitted by ilockemup on Wed, 08/15/2007 - 1:11pm.

I Agree With Beaver: Time to Pack it Up and move out.

It is so sad that it has now become a memory that criminals use to actually fear Fayette County. Thank you for trying, Randall, and Fayetteville PD. It wasn't your fault. I hope all you Fayetteville good ole boys that bought airplanes with Pavillion developer Stan Thomas are having a good time.

With all the swirling crime, we still don't hear a damn thing from the posh courthouse crowd, including our defense attorney DA.

This makes me sick.


Submitted by skyspy on Wed, 08/15/2007 - 1:18pm.

Why should the good lawabiding people always move?
We need to defend our lives when they are threatened. The criminals would back way off if they knew that every citizen and cop here was ready to defend their life. They are coming here because Dekalb cops have surpassed NYC cops when it comes to stopping criminals(in their tracks) and defending their own lives.

While vacationing in Italy I observed the best crime prevention tactic of all. I saw armed carabinieri on every corner. Armed with fully automatic weapons. Amazing. Peace and quiet in a big city. Maybe not quiet but peace. Almost no crime. What a wonderful addition the carabinieri would make here. Criminals would be caught in the act of the crime. If they pulled a gun on a cop, they would be dropped in their tracks. How nice and peaceful that would be.

It is peaceful because the only people who "get it" in this scenario are the bad guys. Which is good.

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Submitted by AF A-10 on Wed, 08/15/2007 - 3:48pm.

A little disconcerting to your average gringo, I believe, but effective. But it is amazing how terrified my fellow south siders are becoming of "all black males between 17 and 55." Heck, Git real is liable to bust a cap in me if I approach him to let him know he dropped a receipt. You don't have to be a culture of fear to be a culture of people aware of their surroundings. And, I must say, I'm a fan of citizens with conceal to carry permits. I just don't want to be the victim of their nervous trigger finger.

Kevin "Hack" King


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Submitted by Git Real on Thu, 08/16/2007 - 10:36am.

I've seen the light. Now I'm only profiling "homo sapiens" that wear button down shirts and Georgia Bulldog caps. Any one fitting that description had better be ready to duck. I just hope that when the cap bustin' starts occurring my doctor has sense enough to hit the ground.

But it is amazing how terrified my fellow south south siders are becoming of "all black males between 17 and 55."

Hack, I really don't enjoy saying that. However, with the crime trends taking place here that profile has become number one for me personally. If the news is reporting that there are rabid sparrows attacking middle aged dudes as they are checking their mail in their shorts and flip-flops well you can well imagine this "ever so slightly balding (no graying Smiling ) middle aged dude is going to be looking up and keeping his eye on that bird sittin' in the tree lookin' my way.

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Submitted by pentapenguin on Wed, 08/15/2007 - 4:21pm.

Git real is liable to bust a cap in me if I approach him to let him know he dropped a receipt.

Oh come on Hack, I really don't think you'd fit Git's profile -- thuggy looking guy with sunglasses, a hoodie, and brandishing a gun.

Hack, even though you are a lib, we like you! Just try to keep those comments to a minimum, okay? Smiling

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Submitted by skyspy on Wed, 08/15/2007 - 3:57pm.

Unless I see a weapon I'm cool. If someone breaks into my home in middle of the night however, all bets are off. So any criminals reading this when you see the NRA stickers on the no trespassing sign,....BACKOFF! You found the wrong house, move on.

I would love to see our military guys come back to this country and help us with crime. I know it makes some people nervous to have military police like the carabinieri patrolling. It was nice to be able to relax and feel safe. Our local cops need help. Not just here but everywhere.

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Submitted by AF A-10 on Wed, 08/15/2007 - 4:10pm.

And the type of people that would dedicate their lives to protecting the peace (local and federal law enforcement/military) would quickly gain community support. I don't know how else to turn this dog eat dog trend on its ear. But something CONSTRUCTIVE needs to happen. I guess I'm big on hope but a bit short on good ideas at the moment.

Kevin "Hack" King


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Submitted by Git Real on Thu, 08/16/2007 - 10:54am.

I guess I'm big on hope but a bit short on good ideas at the moment.

Not to be contrary but I've got ideas. The problem I have is that I'm running out of hope. I fear we've lost the resolve to fight evil where ever it exists. Until we law abiding citizens all take a stand against crime and enforce harsh and unforgiving consequences on the bad guys we will never put a dent in the crime rates that torment us.

I think the best idea is to severely inflict as severe a punishment as reasonably possible on these predators regardless of their of race, color, sex, religion, national origin, marital status, age or disability.

As for the race part of all of this??? Well, as long as we keep making the focus pointing out or excusing crimes due to our colors we're never going to make any headway. Now this is the where I'm personally hopeless and "a bit short on ideas at the moment". Where do we go from here? Let's keep our fingers crossed and hope our kids do a better job than we have.

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Submitted by skyspy on Wed, 08/15/2007 - 4:24pm.

I wish I had constructive or practical ideas. I think bringing our military home is something that could be done, and even save us money. I just don't think that one person has the power to change our governments mind about it. (that never stops me from writing my congressmen often).

I think our military would be a welcome sight on our streets. I bet even satan's child from my neighborhood would be able to behave if armed military were partrolling.

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Submitted by pentapenguin on Wed, 08/15/2007 - 2:54pm.

Criminals would be caught in the act of the crime. If they pulled a gun on a cop, they would be dropped in their tracks. How nice and peaceful that would be. It is peaceful because the only people who "get it" in this scenario are the bad guys. Which is good.

You forgot to mention that this is a wonderful solution because it would mean cutting our illustrious DA out of the loop. "Dead men make no deals" as they say. Smiling Use a gun in a crime and I have no sympathy for you whatsoever!


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Submitted by Tug13 on Wed, 08/15/2007 - 12:11pm.

I was in Fayetteville around eleven thirty and saw the helicopter.
I spoke to a friend who lives in that area. He got a recorded call from the Fayetteville PD explaining what happened, and they also gave a description of the bank robber.

Thank you Fayetteville PD! Thanks to all Fayette police officers. They do a great job. Smiling


Submitted by skyspy on Wed, 08/15/2007 - 1:10pm.

What a good job, they warned people of the danger and solicited their help.

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