DeCotis gets 11% raise to $180K

Tue, 08/07/2007 - 4:50pm
By: Kevin Wandra

The Board of Education unanimously voted July 31 to renew its contract with Dr. John DeCotis, the school system’s superintendent, for another three years, keeping DeCotis as far and away the highest paid local government official in Fayette County.

The new pay package represents an 11 percent raise. The new contract went into effect on July 1, 2007, and will end on June 30, 2010.

“Dr. DeCotis is arguably the best superintendent in the state and we are lucky to have him overseeing our school system,” says Board of Education Chairman Terri Smith.

The board approved a base salary of $180,000 for the position after doing a salary comparison of other school superintendents in similar size systems, including the counties of Coweta, Douglas, Paulding, Columbia (near Augusta), Houston (Macon), Hall and the surrounding metro Atlanta area.

DeCotis’ base salary under his previous three-year contract was for $161,902.

By comparison, Gov. Sonny Perdue’s current state salary is $135,281, according to Stateline.org. Put another way, Georgia’s governor would get a big pay raise by becoming Fayette County’s school superintendent.

On the other side of the equation is the fact that the school system is the county’s largest employer, public or private, with over 2,700 employees serving more than 22,000 students in 30 schools.

“This new base salary is still under the average of metro Atlanta superintendents even though our superintendent’s performance is far above average,” added Smith.

Under the contract, DeCotis gets an automatic annual raise equal to any increase in the state’s minimum salary schedule for 12-month administrators with his years of experience and certificate. DeCotis also could get an additional raise negotiated by the Board of Education if he meets or exceeds the annual goals set by himself and the school board.

The contract calls for an annual written evaluation on DeCotis’ performance to be conducted by the board, and if the evaluation is satisfactory, the board must consider in the following June whether or not to extend the contract one additional year.

The contract also requires the board to give a one-year notice to DeCotis prior to the end of the agreement whether it intends not to enter a new contract or negotiate a new contract with DeCotis. If the board fails to give that notice, DeCotis can request it, and if the board refuses further action, the contract will be extended by an additional year between the date of any subsequent notice from the board and the actual termination of the contract.

The board also has the option of terminating the contract without cause with a one-year written notice and agreeing to severance pay of an amount equal to one and a half times his annual salary or the remaining salary due him under the agreement, whichever amount is greater.

DeCotis also gets a monthly payment of $600 to defray auto expenses associated with the job and the school board will pay all his contributions to the teacher retirement system and the board’s family medical and dental plans.

For comparison, Peachtree City’s city manager, Bernie McMullen, draws an annual salary of $124,467, according to Betsy Tyler, the city’s public information officer.

Interim County Administrator Jack Krakeel makes $130,057. Fayette County Sheriff Randall Johnson, an elected official, earns $122,653, as well as $3,600 a year for expenses.

DeCotis has over 28 years of experience with the school system as a teacher and administrator. He was the assistant superintendent of curriculum and instruction for Fayette County schools prior to becoming the county’s superintendent in 1999.

He has also served the school system as executive director of K-12 curriculum and instruction and director of elementary education.

“I am grateful to have the opportunity to continue to serve the community as the school superintendent,” DeCotis said.

— Additional reporting by Cal Beverly.

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Submitted by wheeljc on Wed, 08/08/2007 - 2:15pm.

Do not know Dr. DeCotis personally, but very familiar with his total output of students. This is the type of educator and administrator other systems can only dream about. You do not have to look very far to find other system superintendents constantly making POOR decisions; making excuses; and most of all FEAR MAKING DECISIONS -- including the easy ones! Many times, these same superintendents will be consistently egotistically loquacious until the day BOE's say farewell!

We should be very proud and thankful to have such a leader heading our public education system in Fayette County. As mentioned by another blogger, if you like your property value, give Dr. DeCotis a nod of thanks!

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Submitted by MajorMike on Wed, 08/08/2007 - 8:16am.

I don't find it relevant to compare the salaries of different public officials to that of an educational administrator. If we are getting Dr. DeCotis for only 180k, we're getting a bargain (big time)! John DeCotis is assuredly one of the best educational administrators in the nation.


Submitted by dollaradayandfound on Wed, 08/08/2007 - 8:31am.

Name one thing North of Fayeteville he has accomplished!
Kids are still graduating not being able to write cursive, interpret paragraphs, and write a paragraph that is correct.
They can't write a check, balance a check book, understand rsponsibility, or get off of 10 cokes a day.

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Submitted by MajorMike on Wed, 08/08/2007 - 8:50am.

1) Superior hiring policies & implementation.
2) Above National average test scores in a State that is at the bottom of the National averages.
3) Effective damage control in dealing with the influx of students from Clayton County.
4) He has the respect of students, teachers, administrators, and parents in Fayette County. No mean feat when you consider that some of the surrounding counties change Superintendents regularly.

Lastly Dollar, you don't know what you are talking about when you cite fictitious problems like that. Do you really get any enjoyment out of being a "spoiler"?


Submitted by dollaradayandfound on Wed, 08/08/2007 - 11:28am.

These are not accomplishments, they are generalities.
Superior hiring? Who?
I guess overall. The quality of southern Fayette students make Fayette overall better than Georgia only, in general.
Effective? Damage Control? Effective how, control how?
Respect? Whose besides the administration, maybe?
He sure doesn't listen to parents very much.
When County employees reach a quarter million dollars in salary, everything included, it may be time to stop raises!
Out of county students, drugs, discipline, guidance counsellors poor, on and on. Maybe better ones can not be hired! That may be the problem.

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Submitted by hutch866 on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 11:52am.

He gets 180,000 a year, plus 600 amonth car allowance plus his insurance how's that add up to a quarter million a year?

I yam what I yam...Popeye


Submitted by Fayette Resident on Tue, 08/07/2007 - 10:53pm.

Hooray for the school board. This is the most important appointed position in the county. Dr. DeCotis is a man of great knowledge and great integrity. By continuing to have him in the top position, our schools should remain some of the best ones in the state. Good schools mean good property values. Thanks for a great job Dr. DeCotis.

Submitted by dollaradayandfound on Wed, 08/08/2007 - 3:36am.

Sincerely, his nephew!

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Submitted by Newsboy on Wed, 08/08/2007 - 1:03pm.

Though no more evidence was needed, his comments here about Dr. John DeCotis clearly prove again just what an angry, ignorant grouch (BULLY!) he is on this site and (help us!) in the community at large.

JOHN DECOTIS? The best Superintendent in Georgia, maybe the nation, a man who came up through the ranks of Fayette classroom teaching after riding a bus from his hometown of Brooklyn, N.Y. to Fayette County for a job interview in the 1970s. He's not tall in stature and he still talks with a quiet New York lilt, but he cares sincerely about this community, understands the challenges it faces and is NOT afraid to make the tough decisions (often on his own) to make sure it keeps moving forward. The reason our schools avoid so much of the high-profile conflict and controversy of others is that John DeCotis deals with it first. End of story.

JOHN DECOTIS? A man who shows up at high school football games, band concerts, academic fairs, field days, or an elementary school classroom with little notice and then stands quietly off to the side, avoiding attention -- while teachers, principals and little kids worship him like a rock star.

DOLLAR, he could have left a long time ago ... people like YOU would have probably liked that. But he chose to stay, raise a family, and though this raise surely puts him in a position to move "up" to Whitewater Creek or High Grove or somewhere, I'm certain he and his wife will remain in the same simple 3-bedroom ranch house off Hilo Road where they've lived for years. It's close to the St. Gabriel Catholic Church where he's an active member ... A CATHOLIC YANKEE RUNNING FAYETTE COUNTY SCHOOLS?! Yep, Dollar ... and if we're lucky (and keep electing a school board that supports him and keeps him on the payroll) he'll be here far beyond retirement age.
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Submitted by Git Real on Wed, 08/08/2007 - 1:18pm.

Thanks for that info on John. I didn't know much of that. You really have to give John credit for the job he's done in our school system in spite of some of the yahoo's we've elected on the school board. The only thing I faulted him on was the bond issue that thankfully didn't pass years ago that contained more stadium and other luxury items in it than it did classroom construction and other educational improvements. That bond failed at the voter box and the next one was pruned somewhat to make it more digestable for the voters.

Personally I'd like to have seen the 11% spent in the classroom. But if he continues to control the issues migrating in from Fulton and Clayon counties, as one of the bloggers mentioned, then perhaps the investment might very well be worth it in the long run.

**** GIT REAL TOUGH ON CRIME ****

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Submitted by smartpanz on Wed, 08/08/2007 - 9:35pm.

Recently my daughter went to the "Welcome Center" to register my special needs grandson for his first year of school. The nightmare we are being put through is ridicules! I completely understand the rules and regulations that determine "which" school a child is to attend, I have no issue with that and believe that proof of residency is necessary. With that said, here lies the problem.
I began renting an apartment over three years ago, upon doing so, I signed a one year lease. After one year, my landlord did not require me to renew my lease and I've never been late on my payment, instead I rent on a month to month basis. Over a year ago, my daughter went through a divorce and she and her son subsequently moved in with me, with knowledge and approval of my landlord.
When attempting to register my grandson for school my daughter took the necessary documents to the Welcome Center. At that time she was told that she needed to get a letter from me notarized stating that she did in fact reside with me, along with a bill in her name and my address. I go through typing the letter and getting it notarized, but that's still not good enough, they want an "affidavit". No problem, I go to the Welcome Center with my daughter today to complete the affidavit and brought along a copy of my former lease, utility bills, even my daughters W2 form showing our address...STILL not good enough! I was told that I either needed to sign a new lease (which isn't an option because I'm preparing to purchase a home) or have my landlord complete one of "their" affidavit's or (and I quote) "This child will NOT be attending school in this county". At this point I'm rethinking the entire "public school" system! Eventually I am handed this "customized" affidavit for my landlord. Sounds okay right? Not a problem...until you read it!
It states in paragraph two "I attest that there is no written lease agreement and that none of the utilities serving the residence are billed to the person named above who resides there". Helllloooo, my landlord does NOT pay my utilities. In paragraph three it states "The record must include a current gas utility bill/initiation of utility service and photo ID".
There's a LOT wrong with this picture. How can my grandson legally be turned down for school because I refuse to sign another lease agreement? Perhaps DeCotis could shed some light on this situation...

Barbie Dunn
Fayetteville,GA


Submitted by onlyrealcat on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 11:57am.

Strong Armed by the School System in Fayette...sheesh!

(The white man makin me fill out more papers than I want to to get free stuff)

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Recently my daughter went to the "Welcome Center" to register my special needs grandson for his first year of school.

(Some of the peeps that stay at my house went to enroll my baby girls daughter in school)

The nightmare we are being put through is ridicules! I completely understand the rules and regulations that determine "which" school a child is to attend, I have no issue with that and believe that proof of residency is necessary. With that said, here lies the problem.

(The peeps wanted me to fill out papers before they would accept that me, Hermano, Juan, Chiquita, and Gerardo, all stay in da same crib)

I began renting an apartment over three years ago, upon doing so, I signed a one year lease. After one year, my landlord did not require me to renew my lease and I've never been late on my payment, instead I rent on a month to month basis. Over a year ago, my daughter went through a divorce and she and her son subsequently moved in with me, with knowledge and approval of my landlord.

(I started renting about three year ago and still pay rent but don't have no lease or paperwork to prove I live here.)

When attempting to register my grandson for school my daughter took the necessary documents to the Welcome Center. At that time she was told that she needed to get a letter from me notarized stating that she did in fact reside with me, along with a bill in her name and my address. I go through typing the letter and getting it notarized, but that's still not good enough, they want an "affidavit". No problem, I go to the Welcome Center with my daughter today to complete the affidavit and brought along a copy of my former lease, utility bills, even my daughters W2 form showing our address...STILL not good enough! I was told that I either needed to sign a new lease (which isn't an option because I'm preparing to purchase a home) or have my landlord complete one of "their" affidavit's or (and I quote) "This child will NOT be attending school in this county". At this point I'm rethinking the entire "public school" system! Eventually I am handed this "customized" affidavit for my landlord. Sounds okay right? Not a problem...until you read it!

(I brought some stuff but not what I was supposed to that says I live in an apartment here with my kids and their kids but they wanted me to have proof. I don;t have custody or papers so they want real proof. Maybe I will just move back to Mexico or suptin mang - or maybe since I am rich I will go to Woodstuff Academy mang)

It states in paragraph two "I attest that there is no written lease agreement and that none of the utilities serving the residence are billed to the person named above who resides there". Helllloooo, my landlord does NOT pay my utilities. In paragraph three it states "The record must include a current gas utility bill/initiation of utility service and photo ID".

(They want me I should have a real citizen taxpayer swear I live here and my kid, and my kid's kid who I want to go to this school)

There's a LOT wrong with this picture. How can my grandson legally be turned down for school because I refuse to sign another lease agreement? Perhaps DeCotis could shed some light on this situation...

(I think this is bullshoot mang- I am white - they are treating me like I am a Mexican or black or suptin mang! Geez...can't they see I am white, my kid is white and her kid is at least half white?)

Maria Elonzo Juanita Hernandez
Fayetteville Georgia mang

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Submitted by smartpanz on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 12:28pm.

Here kitty kitty kitty....

Thanks to all of you who actually took the time to read my original post, and understand the point I was making. Tug, Hutch, Lgo thanks for the support as this was never ever about "race". You guy's ROCK!

Barbie Dunn
Fayetteville,GA


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Submitted by Git Real on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 12:35pm.

That's not a cat. It's a rat. I'm concerned folks will start confusing this rat with me.... the Git Real Cat. You can imagine the reputation I strive to maintain.

BTW... I hope you and your family are doing well after your tragic losses. Best to your family. Smiling

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Submitted by smartpanz on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 12:55pm.

Thanks "Git" I appreciate your thoughtfulness, we are learning to cope a little more each day.
In regards to your rep...no worries, those of us who actively read your post know that your intelligence level exceeds that of the "hate poster" without question.

Here kitty, kitty, kitty...

Barbie Dunn
Fayetteville,GA


Submitted by lgo1303 on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 12:15pm.

this sounds about right..Put your foot in your mouth and then scream a Race issue.This not and wasn't until you tried to make it one. You seem to be the racist here not anyone else. I don't care whom ever was involved it seemed to me and others here to be excessive and duplicative efforts. Maybe you don't understand what I've written here or in my answer to you previously. Go get a dictionary, A bible and the Declaration of Independence.

Submitted by lgo1303 on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 12:10pm.

Get Real CAT and>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
understand what is written in front of you. First off what gives you the right besides the First Amendment to attack and lash out at those in our county that rent their home ,Apartment or room as being inferior to you because you allege to own property and they don't. Your assertion that a renter is less of a Citizen is absurd and ludicrous, It must be great living on that mountain of yours passing judgment like you are a God. When I last rented, my lease was month to month after the first year with a 30 or 60 day notice of moving. I also believe if you want to check with any landlord a pro-rated portion of each month's rent is allocated to the payment of taxes. There again from your lofty view , you have neglected to see the whole picture that renters indirectly pay property tax. They also pay sales tax,Ad valor um and splost taxes and such as they go about buying groceries,cloths ,and things in this county. SO BACK OFF the almighty idea that you are better than a renter because you own property. I do also and I understand that Public means public not just Landowners. Oh maybe you want to own a plantation and may all renters work as slaves and sharecroppers so you can view them from aloft cause they aren't worthy to send their kids to your public school.
When I was last in court there was an Item used called an affidavit, Which by the way is a swearing to and acknowledging under the penalty of perjury a legal and bidding document. Had you ever signed and had a document notarized , you would have realized this fact of what you were swearing to. It seems like Ms Dunn had taken bills,receipts and notarized affidavit and ad valor um receipts for both her and her daughter swearing to the fact they were living at the same address in Fayette County.vI think any reason able rational adult would have accepted that many items of documentation don't you? But then again from your lofty perch it is hard to be reasonable and rational with your mind set of superiority as a property owner in Fayette county.
CAT if you want to take on a cause, May I suggest to you that you proceed up HWY 74. Stop at the entrance to the Sandy Creek complex and document all the cars from Fulton County turning there and parking or dropping off students. Oh, you can tell those cars by the license plates as they say FULTON on the bottom.But then again you may not want to as they may be family and friends from Riverdale and you seem to know so much about it. After spending a few days then proceed to Rockaway Road and HWY 74 and count the cars turning to and entering the Starr's Mill complex from Coweta county. Then take your results to the School board and submit your finding. Then you can say you have really done something for the Public Schools of Fayette County.
Remember the saying judge not lest thee be judged.You opened this door. So maybe you can drop the attitude and accept all the citizens renters and property owners as your equal as described in the Declaration of Independence. If not then I suggest you take sell your property and move to another nation and enjoy their freedoms. HAVE A NICE DAY

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Submitted by eodnnaenaj1 on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 12:09pm.

if you don't have anything better to do than pick on a grandmama trying to get her grandchild in school, then you have a very sad little life! Why don't you find someone of your own mentality and your own size to pick on . . .now that would be fun to watch, this on the other hand worthless drivel on your part.


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Submitted by hutch866 on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 12:00pm.

So far today you're the only racist we've seen.
I yam what I yam...Popeye


Submitted by onlyrealcat on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 8:43am.

Maybe if so many people weren't trying to 'scam' us taxpayers by sending 'grandkids' and 'nieces and nephews' to Fayette County schools you wouldn't have to go through this.

Regardless, if you want the Fayette County $7,800 a year we spend on kids or the MUCH MORE for your 'special needs' grandson fill out the paper work.

Someone who actually pays property tax is going to have to 'swear under penalty of perjury' that your 'special needs' grandson and homeless daughter live in your school district. You can always send them to private school or move to another county.

Is the 'house you are buying' in the same school district? Will your daughter and grandson be living there too?

Jump through the hoops and be thankful you are not going to Riverdale.

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Submitted by smartpanz on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 9:40am.

Apparently you didn't read what I wrote or perhaps "ADD" prevented you from fully comprehending what I wrote. Not that I "need" to defend myself and typically I won't get into a "battle of wits with an unarmed individual" but I'll make an exception for just for you!
I've lived in this county since 1990, and I've always paid my taxes. My daughter who moved in with me by our mutual decision and not based on your "homeless theory", is also a Fayette County tax payer!
In regards to the paperwork, what part of WE COMPLETED THE PAPERWORK REQUESTED BY THE WELCOME CENTER and the hoops have been jumped aren't you getting? You appear to be the one "whining" let me guess...you moved here FROM Riverdale right?
In regards to "where" I'll be moving when I purchase a home, well, that simply has no bearing on the school my grandson will be attending because we certainly are not moving before school starts.
I'm not asking for any special treatment, And to insinuate that we are trying to "scam" the taxpayers is just stupid.

Barbie Dunn
Fayetteville,GA


Submitted by onlyrealcat on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 10:43am.

Sorry 'Barbie', I don't have ADD and I don't 'sublease' my rental to my kids so my grand kid can go to Fayette County Schools either.

If you think you are doing us a favor by sending your special needs grandson to Fayette County Schools at the expense of those of US who pay school taxes (and YOU do not) from your 'apartment' where multiple adults are living - think again.

Please, take you own advice and "Rethink Public Schools".

You are the one way out of the box of normalcy in attempting to send a grandchild you do not have custody of to our local schools. Again, fill out the paperwork and have your 'Property Master / Land Lord' - that actually DOES pay school tax - do the same if you want something from the government. The local government requires an affidavit from the 'property' owner that they can hold accountable. Seems like you have a deep sense of entitlement to me.

You are the same woman who picked a fight with 'Hutch'. I would say you have a major chip on your shoulder.

Stop looking a gift horse in the mouth - and back off the bleach while you are at it.

The only real cat in town

Submitted by twinnumber2 on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 11:39am.

so seriously you have no idea what you are talking about. mulitle adults living the the same house. since when has that been a crime? i live with my mother because i went through a divorce last year. which is a very hard thing. I have lived in fayette county for 17 years and i attended and graduated from fchs. my son is 5 yrs old and deserves to go to a school in the same county we live in. it is the school system who is wrong here as well as you assuming you know the situation. and its not you paying for my special needs child. I assure you that i pay completely for him and not to mention he is going in regular classes hence you are not paying anything.my mom was a home owner up until the past couple of years and she paid her taxes. just because we rent does not make less than you. circumstances do not make a person. you can sit on ur high horse over there and type about things you dont know about all you want. i work and live in fayetteville and deserve for my child to go to school which was the point of her first post.and yes my mother doesnt have custody of my son but guess what I DO!and not to mention its not just UR taxes that pay for public school. The state also gives money to public schools, which i pay my taxes to as well. Picked a fight with hutch, you dont know all the stuff we have gone through this past year so i would suggest you shut your mouth and move on.

Submitted by onlyrealcat on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 12:11pm.

Isn't that just like a white girl living at home with her momma and her kids to say to a grown woman and homeowner with a little money and a lot of class.

Here's some advice for you little girl:

Get a job.
Get a place to live.
Raise your own child.
Learn to capitalize and punctuate.
Stop claiming to be a FCHS graduate if you can't write or reason.
Stop waiting for my tax money to fix your sorry butt and get with the program.

Maybe you and twin number 1 can find a nice section 8 property in PTC to raise you fatherless kids like skyspy is always ranting about and you can get back in the ghetto where you belong.

The only real cat in town

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Submitted by Tis4twins on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 3:17pm.

What are you teaching your children by saying the racist things that you are saying? I own my own house and take care of myself. Who are you to say that My twin and I should find some nice section 8 property? Obviously you know from experience huh? I can assure you that my household takes care of itself and there is no section 8 in my future nore my families future. We have lived in Fayette County for 17 years and how long have you lived here? Lets answer that question. There aren't any little girls here just an immature woman that decided to stick her nose where it didn't belong. You want to talk about bleached? How dare you say that crap. You are such a low life to sit here and actually pick fights with people. Wow you put yourself on a childs level right there. You can sit here and throw your petty comments all day long but the thing you fail to realize is that you are making yourself out to be the fool. Go back to where you came from because obviously you can handle adult conversation. FYI what kind of person does it take to say such things about an innocent child? Thats fine b/c you'll get yours by the one person that matters. God!!! You know what you said was wrong so own up to it!


Submitted by cindrpep on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 1:13pm.

My friend, you need to understand what the word "class" represents. It is defined as "high quality". However, you have not displayed this honorable and noble character trait. Those who have true class do not berate, falsely accuse or defame another human being. The family that you are so harsely dehumanizing are hard working and decent people. They shop, work and are law biding citizens of Fayette county and have been for many years. There is a saying that possibly may hold true here. "We criticize others what we see in ourselves". The point of Ms. Dunn's comments were, I believe, to enlighten a community of endless and fruitless red tape. That the system does not have a streamline procedure in place to facilitate efficient registration of it's students and that the parents of these young lads and lasses must spend enormous amounts of wasted effort and time to do so. That, my friend, has nothing to do with the color, creed, or religious beliefs of an individual registering their child for the right to a proper education in the county to which they reside in. Just a side note: The child that is the center of this situation is my beloved grandson. This child has a father who is very much active in his life. He pays child support and is hard working as well. This child is very bless to have two parents that love and support him. Assuming that this child is anything less shows you do not truly know the situation and lower your character by doing so. You have assumed an economic situation that you do not have any true facts on. This also lowers your character, ladies with true class would not do so or at least not publicly.

Submitted by twinnumber2 on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 12:28pm.

1.Get a job.
I have a great FULL time job!
2.Get a place to live.
I have a place to live which I pay my own rent.
3.Raise your own child.
I raise MY own child and support him without your taxes or any gov't assistance.
4.Learn to capitalize and punctuate.
I didnt know you were challenged with internet lingo.
5.Stop claiming to be a FCHS graduate if you can't write or reason.
I have my diploma, how about you? And I graduated with excellent scores in english and grammar.
6.Stop waiting for my tax money to fix your sorry butt and get with the program.
I do not want or need your tax money otherwise I would have applied for assistance a long time ago.

And as for my twin she is married and has her own house in which she pays taxes and doesnt complain about children getting their education especially those with special needs. My child is not fatherless, actually he has a great father who has been there through everything. Just because we are divorced doesnt mean that he isnt there so stop being ignorant and assuming stuff. And please I have never lived in the ghetto unless that is what you are calling fayetteville now. It is people like you that are the ones who think you deserve everything. Well guess what get over yourself and move on. Yes I may live with my mother but guess what that doesnt concern you. I pay my bills and support my child! And my mother says "her dog can still eat your cat!"

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Submitted by Tug13 on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 12:56pm.

Ignore this racist nut. I hope everything works out for all of you.

God Bless

Tug Smiling


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Submitted by eodnnaenaj1 on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 12:18pm.

This person may not be using obscenities, but they are getting out of line . . .perhaps a warning.


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Submitted by hutch866 on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 11:19am.

Please let me clear something up, this lady DID NOT pick a fight with me and as for a chip on the shoulder, if anyone on the site has one it is you. Renting an apartment in this county infers the same rights as owning a house in regards to schooling, she might not pay a school tax herrself but the landlord does so it all works out. She said she filled out the paperwork and jumprd through the hoops so what is your problem? I think you must be the parent of the person who uses that name most of the time and I can see where he gets his attitude.

I yam what I yam...Popeye


Submitted by onlyrealcat on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 11:28am.

You bleached out folks have quite a problem with following your own rules don't you?

Whenever you rent and have two or more adults in one house and want to send all the kids to school here that's fine - you gripe about the paperwork as if someone 'owes' you something.

When people of color rent and have more than one adult in the house we are a 'problem', freeloaders and milking the system.

Change 'Barbie' the bleached out flabby grandmother who wants her grandchildren to attend a school she does not financially support, to a strong black woman or Hispanic family, and have her and her adult children in a rental house complaining about the school system making her fill out a few papers and 'popeye' and you other white fear mongers are the first to holler about the 'minorities' ruining the school system.

The only real cat in town

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Submitted by Tis4twins on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 3:27pm.

Bleached out folks? Well I would stoop down to your level and say things b/c I know how many papers that I personally notarized in Clayton County so that children could go to school elsewhere. Infact I worked in Clayton County and there are many young people African American, White and Hispanic and many other ethnicities still living at home with their parent with babies in tow. Don't judge someones decisions unless you have gone through it yourself. So if you want to police the school system and run your mouth about a situation that you have no idea about then go ahead but just because she happens to be white gives you no reason to racially profile. Obviously you have some deep seeded issues that you need to deal with before you run your mouth.


Tug13's picture
Submitted by Tug13 on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 11:43am.

Why are you being so mean to Ms. Dunn? She has legitimate questions.
Seems like she is "jumping through the hoops."

Your racist comments and personal attack against Ms. Dunn are cruel and uncalled for.

I believe you have made racist comments on here before. Go away..


hutch866's picture
Submitted by hutch866 on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 11:44am.

You go girl

I yam what I yam...Popeye


Tug13's picture
Submitted by Tug13 on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 11:52am.

Hey!
Thanks...Go Tigers! (Wildcats too) Smiling


smartpanz's picture
Submitted by smartpanz on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 11:42am.

You know Cat, I was trying to give you the benefit of doubt, in hopes that you might actually have a lick of sense...but after your racially motivated post, I need not say another word. Take off the rose colored glasses as this was never about race!
AND...MY DOG CAN STILL EAT YOUR CAT

Barbie Dunn
Fayetteville,GA


Tug13's picture
Submitted by Tug13 on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 11:50am.

hutch is right...you go girl! Smiling


hutch866's picture
Submitted by hutch866 on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 11:37am.

Funny how you are the only one to bring race into it, untill you said something about it no one here knew what color you were. We knew you were a jerk just didn't know you were black or brown or whatever, when all else fails pull the race card, which school do you financially support? Do your taxes only go to one school? If so you're the only one. I think I'll leave this to Beaver, he'll enjoy this one.

I yam what I yam...Popeye


Tug13's picture
Submitted by Tug13 on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 11:48am.

You're right. Guess we need to ignore this racist. Smiling


Submitted by onlyrealcat on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 11:45am.

You two sound so much alike. By the way Popeye, renters do not pay school tax, the owner of the property does - so HE has to sign the affidavit. Not that you would care - since she is white.

The only real cat in town

Git Real's picture
Submitted by Git Real on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 12:23pm.

By the way Popeye, renters do not pay school tax, the owner of the property does.

Come on you goofy cat. That's the stupidest statement I've ever heard. You sound like a Peter supporter trying to tell us that Dunn and Gang never raised our taxes and that it was the State of Georgia that increased our taxes by raising the property valuations. When the truth is that it is the commissioners that set the millage rates that ultimately determine the property taxes you pay.

Okay Cat.... Did it ever occur to you that the property taxes being paid are built into the cost of the rental price? Now who is actually footing the bill??? Puzzled Duh!!!

Not that I'm defending rental properties in Fayette County. You see I actually support them in Clayton and Fulton. Not if Fayette.

And By-The-Way kitty. GIT REAL is the only real cat in town. Eye-wink

**** GIT REAL TOUGH ON CRIME ****

"That man was Griffin Judicial Circuit District Attorney Scott Ballard".

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Tug13's picture
Submitted by Tug13 on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 12:48pm.

Hope you had a great vacation! Smiling What's this about an alligator?

We know Git is the only "real cat." Smiling


Git Real's picture
Submitted by Git Real on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 12:54pm.

How's our favorite Citizen Online Cover Girl doing. Smiling

Vacation was GREAT! I'm ready for another one. Smiling

Yeah... the alligator story. Can you believe he actually tried to pull me in the water? Guess HE didn't realize who he was messing with. Or was he a she? Or how the heck could one tell? Well anyways.... he was an alligator with very little taste. He didn't like Honey Baked Ham. Shocked

**** GIT REAL TOUGH ON CRIME ****

"That man was Griffin Judicial Circuit District Attorney Scott Ballard".

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Tug13's picture
Submitted by Tug13 on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 1:12pm.

I'm doing okay, thanks. Smiling
Tell us all about the 'gator! Did 'ya capture him/her? Was it a Florida Gator? Smiling


hutch866's picture
Submitted by hutch866 on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 12:57pm.

Please tell me you had on more then just silk boxers, I mean it wasn't a girl gator was it?

I yam what I yam...Popeye


Git Real's picture
Submitted by Git Real on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 1:03pm.

From now on Hutch they weren't "Silk Boxers". Remember... Kevlar Lined Denim Boxers". Repeat after me.... Kevlar Lined Denim Boxers.

Buddy...watch what you say in public. Love PTC might hear you and I'll never hear the end of that one.

As to whether the alligator was a girl or not I don't know. It was real dark but, I can positively say for sure that I saw no breasts. Does that help Puzzled

**** GIT REAL TOUGH ON CRIME ****

"That man was Griffin Judicial Circuit District Attorney Scott Ballard".

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Submitted by loveptc on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 1:35pm.

Now Hutch, you know Git was on vacation. I'm sure he had on his silk speedo's!

hutch866's picture
Submitted by hutch866 on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 1:39pm.

I just threw up in my mouth a little.

I yam what I yam...Popeye


Submitted by loveptc on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 1:44pm.

I think there are a few people out there feeling queasy right now.

Git Real's picture
Submitted by Git Real on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 1:46pm.

Yeah... and I'm one of them. I've got to get to work.

Love.. I'll update you on something soon.

**** GIT REAL TOUGH ON CRIME ****

"That man was Griffin Judicial Circuit District Attorney Scott Ballard".

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hutch866's picture
Submitted by hutch866 on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 1:42pm.

Sometimes I have too much imagination.

I yam what I yam...Popeye


Git Real's picture
Submitted by Git Real on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 1:38pm.

SEE! WHAT DID I TELL YOU.....GGGGGRRRRR.....

**** GIT REAL TOUGH ON CRIME ****

"That man was Griffin Judicial Circuit District Attorney Scott Ballard".

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hutch866's picture
Submitted by hutch866 on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 11:56am.

Unlike you, I don't care what color she is, I don't care what color you are, I only care that you're one of the biggest jerks I've seen on this site in quite a while.

I yam what I yam...Popeye


hutch866's picture
Submitted by hutch866 on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 11:48am.

If you were to read the post I said the landlord pays the taxes, so what they get paid ,right?
I yam what I yam...Popeye


Submitted by twinnumber2 on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 12:03pm.

or didnt we vote a few years ago to add a 1% tax to grocery food items for the schools. so then that would mean that everyone in fayette county pays taxes. hmmm you should really look that one up!

smartpanz's picture
Submitted by smartpanz on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 11:18am.

Wow, I really ruffled your fur huh? Again, re-read what I posted, you obviously still don't get it and your "assumptions" are just that because you are accusing me of attempting do commit an illegal act so that my grandson can attend the public school in which IS in the district of his residence. I paid property taxes for many years, not that I owe you that explanation, but once again, I'm making an exception for you. What do you have against those of us who are "renters" anyway? You also appear to have a problem with "special needs children" and you say I have a chip on my shoulder? It takes a real LOSER to attack a special needs child...your pathetic!
Now you are accusing me of "picking a fight with Hutch" for heaven sake, you know not what you speak of, I responded to a post just as you did today, so I guess that mean's your "picking a fight with me".
Get off your high horse, get a life and stop looking down upon those of us who rent verses own their residence!
And don't be such a "hater" it's not very becoming, but then again neither are the grey roots sprouting from your inflated head.
PS: My dog can eat your cat now what?

Barbie Dunn
Fayetteville,GA


Submitted by onlyrealcat on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 11:42am.

Oh, it's not all renters .... just the ones that have multiple adults in the home that I look 'down on'. Especially when they constantly complain and gripe about something they are getting for FREE. It appears to me the only special needs person here is you. Special rent, special housing, special affidavit, special questions like asking me if I am 'ADD' which is also special needs.... so, I just have to ask, do you rent your dog too?

The only real cat in town

Submitted by helpful lawyer on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 7:18am.

Dealing with difficult and unreasonable people is always a challenge. But there’s an art to handling them, and people like consumer guru Clark Howard have provided lessons on how to do it.

The first step consists in getting the names of the people you deal with and making a written personal note of their name, the date and time of contact, and the gist of the conversation.

If dealing with the difficult person produces an unsatisfactory result which the difficult person says he or she is unable to change, politely request the name of the next person up the chain of command and information on how to contact that person.

Then you move on up to that person, making a record along the way, and you keep moving up. Eventually you should reach a person who has more authority and more initiative than the people below who will see the soundness of your situation and will be prepared to make an appropriate exception to the rules for you.

But there are other ways to help yourself along the way. One of them is to adapt proposed language to your situation. If someone sticks a form in your face that you consider ridiculous, you can rewrite it, preserving the items which make sense and adding concise information which supports your position.

For your purposes, a notarized statement and an affidavit are the same thing. An affidavit is nothing but a written sworn statement. The “sworn” part exposes you to criminal liability if you lied. Write your own affidavit, put “subscribed and sworn to before me on (date)” below the line for your signature, and take it before a notary public (perhaps at your bank) where you can sign it and have the notary sign it at the bottom. Then present it to the person who requested an affidavit from you, and start moving up the chain of command, making notes all the way, until you get the result you want.

In the end, you may have to “sue the bastards.” But I am willing to bet you won’t have to.

Submitted by arpafarpagon on Thu, 08/09/2007 - 5:17pm.

You could just realize that what you're doing looks suspicious and try to be cooperative in light of this fact. Nobody's out to get you, I promise.

EDIT: "It states in paragraph two "I attest that there is no written lease agreement and that none of the utilities serving the residence are billed to the person named above who resides there". Helllloooo, my landlord does NOT pay my utilities. In paragraph three it states "The record must include a current gas utility bill/initiation of utility service and photo ID"."

The way you worded this makes that document sound way more contradictory than it can possibly be. It sounds to me like you just flat out can't prove you live there. That's just my suspicion, though.

Also, if you have the kind of relationship with your landlord that allows you to pay month-by-month then surely he'll give you a sufficiently short lease to allow enrollment of your grandchild.

I really don't see why you're so outraged that your situation sent up these red flags.

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