I think Git said something like that to her too.

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This afternoon my wife and I were headed to Costco in Morrow. We had just made the turn onto Hwy 54 in Jonesboro, and there stood this black dude out in a front yard wearing a ski mask and dark shades over the opening.

If a hoodie is probable cause, what about this???!!!

I have no idea what it was all about. We just kept going.

We're from the LA, California area - and we would have gotten out of that area (Morrow) ASAP. Why? From experience - something dangerous was about to go down. A sad commentary when thugs are so confident that no one will bother them in public because of 'fear'. While watching the reruns of The Godfather - those thugs were taught that in the first few minutes of committing a violent act - no one will bother them because of being afraid and in a state of shock. Remember - Vito just calmly walked out of the restaurant after shooting the Police Chief! Be vigilant every minute of every day - wherever you are.

Just curious, what part of the LA area are you from?

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We lived: (family)

1939 - 1942 52nd street near Central
1942 - 1954 What is now called the Jefferson/Arlington area
1954 - 1961 Crenshaw/Venice area
1963 - 1999 Pasadena/Altadena area

Employment:

1963 - 1965 Adams/Western area
1965 - 1969 Downtown area
1970 - 1975 South Central - 52nd and Central!
1975 - 1985 Fairfax area
1985 -1986 West LA area
1986 - 1993 Highland Park area
1993 - 1999 Vermont/1st Street area

How then do you propose to know what race relations were like here in the past when you have never lived in the south?

Ironically, now that you do, you say it's great ... but that we 'white people' (I INSIST on being called a "European - American", I am not WHITE - Fences are WHITE) are all the descendants of racist grand fathers.

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Your level of comprehension is beyond me oh great one. I'm not black - just as you're not white - - whatever. I am a newcomer to the south as a resident - but was here often during my lifetime.

I have never commented on your color. I just want to be treated equally and have a hyphen too.

By the way, I have a sister in San Bernardino - she's not black but she's very dark brown.

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Oh Mixer - racism and racist practices was not limited to the south. There were restrictive covenants in California; limited employment opportunities, etc., etc., all over our wonderful country. The south cannot ever accept that they were the only region in our country that had racist practices. Today - the new south is an example of what the rest of the country can achieve.

... like this?

Yea Davids (sic) mom, I have seen and heard about your race relations in California. Reginald Denny comes to mind. Can I get some of my tax money back for rebuilding your cities out there by the way?

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Yep, I know these areas. Do you remember the Helms Bakery?

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With fond memories (I can almost smell the bread!) On Venice! Did you live in the area - and are you of the age to remember the Helms man who delivered the bread? The bakery now holds the Olympic memorabilia.

Yes, the Helms man and his square little truck. When I was a wee little guy, my mom would take me out to the curb and wait for that truck for that oh so delicious donuts. I lived in the Hawthorne area for 32 years.

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Those are good memories - thanks for reminding me!

Did you call the police? Seriously, that's just too weird. Maybe it was a 'reverse drive by'. You know, like he lost his license so he was in the yard shooting at cars that drove by - a 'reverse' drive by.

Why wouldn't a suspicious person be cause to check them out a little closer?

Thus we enter the realm of objectivity. Who decides what is weird? Is it 'profiling' if the weird person is from say, the middle east?

It makes me think about the ridiculous lawsuit filed by the "Flying Imams" and the ACLU.

You know the democrats defeated the bill to make those who report 'suspicious people' exempt from prosecution.

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I've seen pictures from the Middle East with individuals wearing the same attire.

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Banks have been looking for a reason to close their doors to the public, except by appointment. They are finding it with the counter robberies and it will soon happen.
One will need an appointment, and will be photographed and printed in a cubicle before going in and go through a metal detector.
If your business isn't worth fooling with for the bank, you won't get past the first desk.
They will give you a $15,000 credit card however, with 22% interest from day one.

It's interesting that when this site reports *yet another* methamphetamine bust, there are no comments about race (since meth is more pervasive among lower-income whites than blacks). I've been watching it for several months now and the veiled race commentaries are strangely absent when white suspects are arrested for meth or any crime. I say "interesting" as in sad and hypocritical.

The majority race of this County is White.

I thought they gave a description to help locate the suspect since he was at large. Like when an armed robber sticks a gun in the face of the manager of Radio Shack but isn't caught. Since the meth busts obviously have the criminal maggots in custody, I guess they really don't need to write a description of the suspect for us.

Gee, what in the world was I thinking?

I must have lost my chip around here somewhere....

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You misread me completely. My point was more on the low discourse seen on this site whenever black suspects are arrested albeit obviously not the case here.

It's foolish and indefensible to not give as complete and accurate a description of a perpetrator as possible. Anything else wreaks of ulterior, political motives which are meaningless (or should be) in the context of solving a crime. And that description needs to be visually descriptive; using "African American" is absurd and meaningless when describing race. There are many white "African Americans" and many blacks who are actually black who are neither from Africa nor are they American (NBA center from the Spurs, Francisco Elson being one who springs immediately to mind). In fact, I have personally had to handle a situation in which a receptionist at an Atlanta law firm referred to a client as an African American when, in fact, he was from Toronto- born and raised. He took offense at being called American and African. White and black are descriptions. African American is a meaningless political term.

But it is ignorant to argue that there is not a pervasive racist element to certain commentators on this site. And to argue that there isn't a lack of racial commentaries when the suspects (arrested or otherwise) are white as opposed to black also ignores the reality here.

Whatever makes you feel better.

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This has been going on for a long time throughout our nation. Many citizens are keeping a record and addressing this issue to editors throughout the states. It's not just a 'southern' thing or a 'conservative' thing. It's a sad holdover from our 'legacy of slavery' and Jim Crow days. Some journalists are making a conscious effort to either not mention race at all - or to be consistent when reporting - and mentioning the race of all involved in the story. I think it is only important when the perp is still at large - and an accurate description will help in his/her apprehension. Television helps when one can see the perps being arrested. (Blacks and Hispanics are not the only perps being shown on the evening news). I honestly believe that this biased reporting is not always intentional - but it does have the effect of making us fearful based on skin color rather than actions.

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks"

From Hamlet (III, ii, 239)

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Try to add an 's to your name wnen editing your name on this site and let us know what happens.

Davids (sic) mom, do you attend Mt. Olive Baptist Church by chance?

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No - do you by chance? Or do you attend Liberty Baptist - which is on the same street - and integratd? . . or New Hope or Church of God in Christ on Redwine? Have a nice day Mixer. You have not changed.

Mixer is a right wing tip conservative leaning heartless lover of all races!
He doesn't like taxes, health care, the poor in general, food stamps, free cheese, welfare, Salvation Army, democrats, liberals, anybody other than RWCs, maybe, a few Libertarians.
Newspapers are a no, no, TV (except FOX), is a no, no, Bush is wonderful, the war is wonderful, all generals are Patton and IKE, all soldiers who die or or wounded for him are just great, no cheap rent for anyone, build more jails and walls, setup machine guns on the border, threaten Canada if they don't build walls, bomb someone every week!

I have counted at least five different people today that think you have problems with the 'whites', that you stereotype, and that you are fixated on racial issues (that normally don't exist).

While it is true that I am the same as always, I would recommend you change by joining the 'HUMAN' race and leaving your racist rants about lineage back in California.

We don't wear skin color on our sleeves here, or chips on our shoulders. In the south, we generally don't think it matters unless someone has a problem with it or fixates on it - like you do.

We get along because we are 'good people' and most of us grew up together and have always been family friends. It's people like you who are not from 'here' that bring preconceived stereotypes with you and think you are going to "Fix the Klan riddled south" that create problems.

Have a 'blessed' day.

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You didn't even realize that you identified yourself earlier as a European American - hummmmm consistent? I'm having a conversation with others - not defending anything. They have their right to their opinions - and I learn from them.

Stick to math.

I don't wish to be id as a "European-American." There are some Europeans whom I don't want to be!
Really, a Bulgarian, or a Slav? You have to be born there to be that!
Gypsies aren't my favorite ancestors. French! Whew!
Stay across the Chanel for me.

Like you Davids (sic) mom. I like to keep the field 'level'. It's all about equality and fairness. You will learn about that 'down' here.

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Is that the same thing as J. Lowery saying there are a "disproportionate" number of blacks in prison? Why is this? Could it be they are being unfairly targeted by the authorities? I mean, just because they commit crimes they shouldn't be held accountable because someone of the same color was enslaved generations before they were born?
All excuses, no resolution to make change. I know that I(being a middled-aged, middle class white male with a job) am responsible for everything that ever has or will happen to the poor oppressed ones. (HELP,HELP,I being oppressed!) Well just let me apologize now.
Whew,I feel better now that I have corrected a gross injustice.
Here's an idea: STOP YOUR WHINING, OPEN YOUR EYES, AND DO SOMETHING INSTEAD OF CRYING "FOUL" ALL THE TIME. After all only you can prevent forest fires.

"The memories of a man in his old age, are the deeds of a man in his prime.You shuffle in the gloom of the sick room,and talk to yourself as you die."
(R. Waters)

You forgot to add Christian to your list of why you're responsible! Here's a song for you...

In a haze these days
I pull up to the stop light
I can feel that something's not right
I can feel that someone's blasting me with hate
And bass
Sendin' dirty vibes my way
'Cause my great great great great Grandad
Made someones' great great great great Grandaddies slaves
I just drove to the store
For some Preparation-H
Y'all don't know what it's like
Being male, middle-class and white

I am a card-carrying WASP, and darn proud of it. Religion is a whole 'nother matter. People will cite all the wrongs due to religious beliefs, but fanaticism does not a religion make. Live long and prosper.
(I don't think I made any sense in the above: DOLLAR help me!)

"The memories of a man in his old age, are the deeds of a man in his prime.You shuffle in the gloom of the sick room,and talk to yourself as you die."
(R. Waters)

I can't help that!

Forget about the generation of the 'greats'. Some of the granddads of today could have been under those white sheets when I was 11. There has been a great change in Fayette County since the 1980's. Amen for the change. We (both white and black) will continue to be vigilant so that the hate does not manifest itself again as it did in the past. The Christian churches in Fayetteville appear to live up to the words of the Constitution and the Bible. Race relations has changeD a great deal since the 1980’s. AMEN!.

I don't have time to read all the posts, but I am wondering...Are all your posts racially motivated, or just the ones I read?

I'll answer it for you - Yes, she has deep rooted racist tendencies. In fact, apparently she thinks that only whites can be racist.

http://www.thecitizen.com/node/18805#comment-40777

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Where in my comments do you get that I think only whites can be racist? I know that is not true - and have worked over the years with minority children to erase the hatred and fear for and of whites that they have been taught by their parents and/or communities. There has been great progress in race relations in my lifetime - and this progress will continue with the new generation - if we can temper our perception of one another and listen to how we speak of one another. My racist tendency is to do whatever I can in my lifetime to erase American racism by becoming aware of the fallacies that it teaches about other human beings based on the color of their skin. I don't believe this will happen if we put blinders on and refuse to acknowledge that it exists. Yes - I too have racist thoughts - and each time one pops into my mind - I do all that I can to correct it. How about you?

I have a cousin with that nickname. To answer your question, check my blogs. My latest was on Iraq. I have seen such progress in race relations during my lifetime - that I am concerned when I see SOME posters on this site perpetuating racist themes - and my point is to present an opposite point of view to theirs. It is unfortunate that some take it as a personal attack - since I know no one on this site. My personal experience in Fayetteville has been MARVELOUS! . . and I'm grateful to be able to experience the true brotherhood that I witness in this community daily.

You seem to know little about what happened before the 1980s. I can tell you that I remember the 40s, 50s, and 60s, and in Fayette County, people had respect for each other no matter what color they were. Obviously you don't know that because you were not here. So take what you will and twist it around to suit yourself. Those of us in the know will just smile at each other about the newcomers who think they know what southerners feel. You don't have a clue.

Tell me! I'm here to learn!

I just told you -- the keyword here is RESPECT. Furthermore, I don't believe you are here to learn. You are here to keep things stirred up.

She is also a sexist apparently. When I asked the same question you did she said she was here for another reason:

"I only speak out on my ‘issues’ when I run across those who try to hide their bigoted thinking by stating that their moral stand prevents them from assisting the dregs of the earth.

... I will call you and your ignorant bigoted words out whenever I come across them on this or any other blog. I respect your right to be conservative – but your words represent a group of people that make all conservatives appear bigoted – and I know that is not true."

I guess you can join me in being monitored by the "one who thinks she is above all of us and our inherent racism". Oh, she also determined that my "heart is BLACK" ... so I have that going for me. Which is nice.

Nice to know you susieq.

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Sorry you feel that way. I would have loved to learn the history of Fayetteville from you . . but I'll go to the historical society. Thanks.

I was raised in a very tolerant home. I never heard the "N" word until I had been in grade school a few years. I saw color, but knew from my upbringing that this was only a sign of heritage. (the real kind, not something to whine about) However, It is whiners like you and all the oppressed ones who are making it hard for me to adhere to my inherrant beliefs. Thank you and all your racist friends for perpetuating racial discord. You should feel great satisfaction and I hope you are happy.

"The memories of a man in his old age, are the deeds of a man in his prime.You shuffle in the gloom of the sick room,and talk to yourself as you die."
(R. Waters)

I'm sorry you feel that way, lets see, one of my great grandfathers was still in Scotland and the other was in Pittsburg so I can assure you that none of mine were. You are generalizing again, and all of our relatives were no more in the Klan then all of your descendents are rapper thugs. I'm old enough to be a grandfather and I never wore a sheet or hood and I resent the implication that I could have.

I yam what I yam...Popeye

I regret that you take my posts personally. I'm sure you can't deny that there are still Klan elements in our country. I don't know you - and have no idea of your linage. I know of 'grandfathers' in 2007 that have been convicted of Klan activities. . and I'm sure you're aware of this also. Of course my statements are generalizations - but based on fact. Racism exists today - not at the force that it existed 20 years ago. . which makes me believe that with persistence, it can be erased. I stop sometimes to watch the children play in some of the daycare facilities in Fayetteville. Black, Yellow, Red and White children playing peacefully together under the supervision of an integrated staff. Based on my experience - that is progress - and unheard of activity before (and after) 1965.

My Great Grand Parents from both sides didn't arrive here until well after slavery was abolished and I can assure you none of them were KKK members. So does that mean that if I'm a racist 'at this moment' that I'm exonerated because my ancestors were not? Of course not. And it shouldn't matter one bit if Mixer's father was a KKK member as long as he is not. And there's no way he should be stigmatized because of it.

I'm sorry for the racism you've experienced in the past. I had no part of it and neither did my family. To be honest, race issues impacted my life only since the early 80's when I first moved here.

Racism against Blacks has truly been a terrible issue in the past, although I now believe the tables have turned.

I'm sure you can't deny that there are still Klan elements in our country. I don't know you - and have no idea of your linage.

Yeah....you're right. There still are elements around. Although I'm sure Kenny's Koffee Klatch still meets regularly at Melear's these days but, there is no doubt in my mind that they are relatively harmless blow hards these days. And there's no doubt that you're safe driving through there now. BTW....What's "linage" got to do with anything? Are you still a slave?

But, let's take a look at these so-called elements. The shame is that as the numbers of the KKK idiots have dwindled over the years there is an explosion in the African-American community of their Black Thug Hate Whitey KKK Counterparts. You used to fear driving through Fayetteville back when. Well guess what? Now us white folks are the one's that fear going to Fayetteville and Riverdale. My how times have changed.

What the KKK contributed to racism over the last 150 years or so, the Black Thug Hate Whitey Rap Culture has taken over in current times. Our race issues in this country are never going to improve until both sides work at this issue.

If I asked you the question "Do you have race issues against Arabs?," your answer would probably be "of course not". If the Arabs terrorize, rob, threaten and hate you, your family and your race then there is no doubt that your attitudes toward that race will change. For me I feel like 60% of your community hate me because of my color and they relish the opportunity to intimidate me every chance they get.

I work in North Clayton County, Fulton and DeKalb Counties enough as a white dude that I experience racism from Blacks on a constant and daily basis. Not by all....but by enough that I can safely surmise that my color is the reason that I am being discriminated against.

Somehow I do not think you are like that. But what I do think you are is blind to the ground swell of racism that is spewing from the Black community which is targeting White folks. My question is this: What's going to happen when White people have "had it" and we take our stand against the uncompromising majority of the Black community?

The thought chills me.....

We shouldn't even have to have this conversation.....

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No one can argue with your perception of the race relations in this country. . . .and I agree - we shouldn't even have to have this conversation. Unless those who don't want to see an out and out race war speak out and try to understand and respect one another - that is exactly what will happen. The black community is taking a stand against the hate and self hate that is coming out of the rap culture - and that's another subject all together. You have made me aware of the fear that it is causing in the white community - and that is dangerous indeed. The same fear and anger towards the direction of the lyrics of the thug rap culture is in the black community - believe me. The students at Spelman took a stand against one of the rappers - and his total disrespect of black women. . and this was years ago! Of course we all fear the senseless gang killings - most in minority communities - and the victims are usually minority. I mentioned earlier that there are groups that are dedicated to redirecting the hate of self and 'whites' through understanding and positive interactive experiences. What amazes me is that there are so many more blacks in the south - and yet it appears that in general the south made greater gains in race relations than the north and/or west or east. IMO. There are certainly more integrated churches here in Fayetteville than I've ever seen in the west/east or north.

And I think we've both treaded common ground together. I would venture to say that if we're both honest we have a hard time leaving race out of certain issues from time to time. That's a hard thing to do as close to the issue as we both stand.

I will agree that there are many, many positive relationships taking place in the county between the races. I see them at my church, schools and around town. Unfortunately there are enough negative issues that are clashing between our races that tend to strain even the best bi-racial relationships and intentions.

Let's keep working on it my friend. Let's all of us work to leave race out of it as much as possible and fight the "human debris" that exists among us together.

I suppose I shouldn't throw in towel so easily..... but it's been how many thousands of years mankind has gotten this all wrong???

In honor of one of the good guys I'll sign off with:

Cheers,

Git Real

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You are one of the good guys Git - and I've learned from you. Thanks for your honesty. If each one continues to treat the other with respect - as I see exhibited in Fayetteville daily - then we won't be caught up in the fear that causes hatred and distrust. If one focuses on the negativity - than that will be prominent in their view. I understand yours and others desire not to discuss race relations - for it is painful - but not hopeless. I've seen so much progress - I just won't let the naysayers have control of the websites. Most websites have closed their discussions on race relations because of the hate filled posts that begin to appear. I still will contradict a hateful statement when I see it . . can't give up yet.

Cheers to you too!

I wish I had said that.

Ain't it the durn truth! Amen brother, amen! Ya done good for all of us who have been reading this exchange, but have hesitated to get into it.

Remember that I said I'm white, but I like what Nagen said about Bush, he called it as he saw it and his saying Chocolate didn't sound bad to someone from down there cause they understood? By the same token, if there was a robbery, he would again, call it as he saw it, if the guy was white, black or milky way colored...or, if someone knew where the pimples on his butt where, he would want a description that people could use to find him. All this trying not to hurt people's feeling to the determent of the whole group, forgive my spelling, is wrong. We can move forward only as a group, if we work together and call it as it is. Giving one group better treatment and trying to gloss over their crimes to make it look better is wrong. It is also insulting to people of that group that try to do right. It is like giving them 'points' cause you know they can't do better, THAT is insulting in my eyes.

The problem I have about Nagin's "Chocolate City" speech was that he also stated that God intended New Orleans to a majority black city. Now if a white mayor made the same statement inferring his race was the chosen one, what kind of up-roar would we see?

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I think Nagin also said PTC could be a milk white city.

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You liked what Nagen (sic) said about Bush because they were negative comments. You don’t care that Nagin is just another loser leftist politician trying to pass all the blame to someone else and trying to steal more money from the people in this country who actually work and produce something.

Now, as for your deep thoughts on the folly of not calling a spade a spade in order to keep from hurting someone’s feelings, I couldn’t agree more.

Maximus

.... about as deep as mini-me's wading pool.

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We don't "produce anything in this country anymore since the "giant sucking sound."
Only paperwork, reports, computer punching, selling junk, cheating, politicking, and making war planes.

Your not so 'great' granddads were a bunch of "white sheet wearing" KKK racists according to Davids (sic) mom.

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Let me get my wallet out for reparations.

Maximus

Calling a "spade a spade" just doesn't sound right. There must be racist implications there. Don't you bury things using a spade? What color is a spade? Sounds ominous.

So that was your 'not so great' grandfather in the 'white sheets' that she is fixated on huh?

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I totally misunderstood the original meaning of this conversation. I thought she saidd under the sheets! I wasn't a KKK either!

besides, you were here in the 1980's and are old enough to be those Klansmen she saw so many of .... I think you need to pay reparations and apologize for being a part of the 'Not so great' granddad racists.

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therapy?

I don't now nor have I ever worn sheets -- nor do I approve of those who do.

You need to give money and subjugate yourself, your pride, your opinions, and your heritage apparently.

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You can't rewrite history with your brush strokes of hatred and revisionism.

You dearly love to insult 'white people' and their heritage don't you? Have you always associated white people with the KKK?

Before they were "under those white sheets", as you say, and very few were, they were settling America, fighting a world war or two, beating back communism, building the infrastructure and establishing the world's longest lasting and most powerful democracy and free economy. Great indeed.

What were your 'great' granddads doing in Africa where you claim to be from? "(My family roots are in Ethiopia, through my mothers’ line)"

I do not appreciate you calling my grandfathers racist Klansman.

Apparently, you like it enough here to stay here. All those granddads built a nice little country here I would say.

We don't require that anyone stays you know. Except for the occasional travel restriction due to an SCI security clearance for military personnel - of course - you wouldn't know anything about that now would you Davids (sic) mom.

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Mixer, for future reference, "SCI" is not a Security Clearance, but a certain category of information that one is indoctrinated for. The actual clearance one must have to be indoctrinated for that information is "Top Secret."

Considering that we all called it that when I was in the Air Force I suppose I just assumed that's what it was called. I suppose SCI Access is more accurate than SCI Clearance. I stand corrected.

I had the Secret Clearance during the first 6 months or so of Tech School and the Top Secret prior to crypto school and my final training. I was a combat controller and specialized in weather and communications equipment maintenance and operation.

I worked with primarily with cryptographic communications and we often had 'bug sweeps' where "For Eyes Only" notices of the sweeps and the subsequent outcome was a part of our routine.

Just so there is no confusion:

In the military, all classified information is divided into one of three categories:

CONFIDENTIAL: Applied to information or material the unauthorized disclosure of which could be reasonably expected to cause damage to the national security.

SECRET: Applied to information or material the unauthorized disclosure of which reasonably could be expected to cause serious damage to the national security.

TOP SECRET: Applied to information or material the unauthorized disclosure of which reasonably could be expected to cause exceptionally grave damage to the national security.

In addition to the above, some classified information is so sensitive that even the extra protection measures applied to Top Secret information are not sufficient. This information is known as "Sensitive Compartmented Information" (SCI) or Special Access Programs (SAP), and one needs special "SCI Access" or SAP approval to be given access to this information.

"For Official Use Only" is not a security classification. It is used to protect information covered under the Privacy Act, and other sensitive data.

Thank you for bringing this nuance to light.

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Judging Americans by the color of their skin rather than the content of their character.

Unequal application of laws and sentences

Vestiges of segregation based on color of skin

During my lifetime, much has been accomplished to correct the 'legacy of slavery'. The very fact that I am living in Fayette County and voted in Fayette County, Georgia is a testimony to this fact. When I was 11 years old, I was terrified riding through this county on our way to Atlanta because of our fear of the KKK. In traveling by train, when entering a southern state, like Georgia, we had to transfer to the 'colored car'. Georgia has the most 'black' millionaires in the country, the largest number of black business owners in the country, and the largest middle class black citizens in the country. These blacks were not whiners - and they have worked hard to survive and overcome the injustices imposed on them in the past. There will be no need to whine when supremacy based on skin color becomes a thing of the past. Assumed male white power is difficult to give up. Change is difficult - but times are a changing.

"Vestiges of segregation based on color of skin"

And let us not forget the "Grutter vs. Bollinger" decision, which grants preferential preference to minorities for admission to the University of Michigan based on the color of skin, not on the content of character.

"On January 31, 1865, (142 years ago) the galleries in the United States House of Representatives brimmed over with expectant reporters and ordinary citizens who crammed the Capitol Building to witness history in the making. That morning the House was scheduled to vote on a constitutional amendment banning slavery—not just in the territories, not just in the Confederacy, but everywhere in the United States."

http://www.americanheritage.com/events/articles/web/20060131-slavery-thirteenth-amendment-abraham-lincoln-frederick-douglass-confederacy-civil-war.shtml

Are those of us who did not own slaves, were not slaves, did not know slaves, did not have family that owned slaves and were not alive during slavery suffer the 'Legacy'?

You say the legacy is:

Judging Americans by the color of their skin rather than the content of their character. Like associating the south and any southern white heritage with racism, fear and the KKK? Or, being held responsible because a child claimed that many years ago they were "terrified riding through this county on our way to Atlanta because of our fear of the KKK. In traveling by train, when entering a southern state, like Georgia, we had to transfer to the 'colored car'." Despite the fact that "Progressive mayors such as William B. Hartsfield and Ivan Allen, Jr., had worked hard to build Atlanta into the commercial and transportation center of the South. They advertised Atlanta as “the city too busy to hate.” "By 1961 they were willing to end segregation at lunch counters and negotiate with civil rights leaders on other reforms." And then in 1964 Congress passed a civil rights act that ended segregation in all public places."

I can relate to the legacy of:

Unequal application of laws and sentences I can only assume you mean like the African-American from Liberia, Mahamu Kanneh, who had all of the Rape Charges dropped for lack of a translator yesterday? Or O.J. Simpson being acquitted?

Of course we all hate when there are:

Vestiges of segregation based on color of skin Like the National Association for the Advancement of 'Colored People', NAACP? For 'Us' By 'Us', FUBU? United 'Negro' College Fund, UNCF? 'Black' Entertainment Television, BET? Congressional 'Black' Caucus? The New 'Black' Panthers? The Nation of Islam? The 'Black' A.I.D.S. Institute? The 'Black' Educators of Tomorrow? The National Association of 'Black' Interpreters, NAOBI? The Black Student Organization, BSO? The Miss Black America Pageant? Etc. Etc. Etc.

Click Here for a GREAT article on seeing what you are looking for.

Yep, I guess you see what you are looking to see... how unfortunate.

I thought you were going to ignore me. It is good for readers to see both of our points of view. You're good with numbers - but the reality of being black in this country for 68 years escapes you. We all have different viewpoints. Believe me - I'm not whining! I love being black, a woman, and living in Georgia (Fayette County) in 2007! It's a testament to the reality of 'change'. The 'new south' should be an example to the rest of the country. The organizations you mentioned are just that - examples of segregation. They should never have been needed - but blacks were excluded by their 'white' counterparts. Without the determination of the NAACP - segregated schools would still be the law (maybe); and I probably wouldn't be enjoying the courtesy of southerners (black, white, red, yellow, brown) who have perfected 'customer service'. Everyone here has the intelligence to make up their own minds about the reality of being black and/or white in America

Vestiges of segregation based on color of skin Like the National Association for the Advancement of 'Colored People', NAACP? For 'Us' By 'Us', FUBU? United 'Negro' College Fund, UNCF? 'Black' Entertainment Television, BET? Congressional 'Black' Caucus? The New 'Black' Panthers? The Nation of Islam? The 'Black' A.I.D.S. Institute? The 'Black' Educators of Tomorrow? The National Association of 'Black' Interpreters, NAOBI? The Black Student Organization, BSO? The Miss Black America Pageant? Etc. Etc. Etc.

And I suppose without the determination of FUBU, blacks would have no clothes to wear., And without Black Educators of Tomorrow, there would be no black teachers. And without the Congressional Black Caucus, there would be no black congressman. And without the Miss Black America pageant, there would be no women of color in the Miss America pageant. (Strange, there are women of color in the Miss America Pageant, but no white women in the Miss Black America pageant.) And without the UNCF, there would be no black college students. Without the Black AIDS institute, no blacks would be treated for aids. Without BET, there would be no blacks on television. Without Ebony, there would be no blacks in any periodicals. We could go on and on.
Mixer, Dave's mom hangs on to her memories of segregation because she can use it as a trump card for any excuse for discrimination against white people. It's all she has, and she will use it any time she gets the chance to use it to excuse thugs like the ones that robbed the poor 16-year old on the bike or the one that robbed the gas station. It's all the white man's fault because they report the race of the perpetrators. I've said it many times before and I will say it again. When will the minorities in this county stop committing the majority of the crimes??? When are parents and black leaders going to hold children to a higher standard instead of constantly making lame excuses for their behavior and crying discrimination every time we turn around. This political correctness insanity has got to stop, and the thugs need to be held accountable for their actions.

based on limited perspective. But it is good to see it in print - so that it can be acknowledged. History is a format for preparing for the future. I will not forget my history. It makes me appreciate the present. The talking points used here are interesting. I have never blamed the 'white man' for anything. The racist practices - which are used in this country and other countries still exist. You seem to turn a deaf ear to the many organizations and individuals that have been working to uplift the self-expectation of young blacks. Here in Atlanta the 100 Black Men and the Links, Inc. have established schools for children that are at risk - to give them the needed extras that they need to succeed and to contribute to the future of this city and country. The Links, Inc. has also established a school in South Africa - where so many of the blacks have been denied education. . .and beaver. . I remember when there were no blacks in periodicals and rejoiced when I saw the first copy of Ebony. Times have changed, but that which was created during our segregated days is not going to be thrown out because it makes some 'uncomfortable'. Asians have their media; Latinos have theirs, etc.. Why the discomfort because blacks have 'their own'? You are entitled to your point of view based on your perspective. I just want readers to see another perspective.

I bet you think people owe you something everyday, am i right? Oh yeah Rivers Edge may have a fayetteville address, but it's still Clayco, im sure thats where you live.

Can I have some of what you are smoking? Better yet just give me the name so I can get my own stash.

Reverse racism is in full swing in this country. The racism you are talking about has not existed for at least twenty years. If it did still exist you wouldn't be in Fayette.
Reverse racism exists. A white man cannot scream racism everytime he is arrested for a crime. However black men do cry racism and get away with cime more times than not.

I don't like double standards or whiners who refuse to accept success and move on. Keep crying wolf .....

"I remember when there were no blacks in periodicals and rejoiced when I saw the first copy of Ebony."

By this do you mean that there were periodicals that did not contain any blacks, or that there were no periodicals that segregated the periodicals based on the color of one's skin? (Like "Ebony" and "Jet")

"Times have changed, but that which was created during our segregated days is not going to be thrown out.."
These are still segregated days - There's the segregation of BET, the Congressional Black Caucus, etc, etc. We've been through this already, but it's not whites who are trying to segregate themselves from the rest of the population.

"racist practices - which are used in this country and other countries still exist" Racist, discriminitory practices such as Grutter vs. Bollinger?

GRUTTER V. BOLLINGER (02-241) 539 U.S. 306 (2003)
288 F.3d 732, affirmed

We also mustn't forget that without black people you would have no one to vent your hatred against or to feel superior to.

I yam what I yam...Popeye

You know hutch, what I really hate is discrimination.

Just the latest slap in the face from Davids (sic) mom:

"Forget about the generation of the 'greats'. Some of the granddads of today could have been under those white sheets when I was 11."

I don't know about you whitey, but I really don;t appreciate someone calling my great grandfather a racist Klansman.

Do you want to see some current examples of liberal media bias? Click Here.

2 Rappers Arrested

"Uh Oh" is the name of a new song by the rappers.

Maybe they should change the name of the song to "Uh-Oh, I been busted again by da man"