what Bush did with the money that was intended to fix levees

Before 9/11 the Federal Emergency Management Agency listed the 3 most likely catastrophic disasters facing America: a terrorist attack on New York, a major earthquake in San Francisco and a hurricane strike on New Orleans. "The New Orleans hurricane scenario," The Houston Chronicle wrote in December 2001, "may be the deadliest of all."
In 2001, New Orleans district spent $147 million on construction projects. When fiscal year 2005 wraps up Sept. 30, the Corps expects to have spent $82 million, a 44.2 percent reduction from 2001 expenditures. ... Unfunded projects include widening drainage canals, flood-proofing bridges and building pumping stations in Orleans and Jefferson parishes. The Corps also wants to build levees in unprotected areas on the West Bank.
In fiscal year 2006, the New Orleans district of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is bracing for a record $71.2 million reduction in federal funding. It would be the largest single-year funding loss ever for the New Orleans district, Corps officials said. ... The cuts mean major hurricane and flood protection projects will not be awarded to local engineering firms. Also, a study to determine ways to protect the region from a Category 5 hurricane has been shelved for now.
NOW READ THIS AND WEEP FOR THOSE PEOPLE BUSH MOVED THE MONEY FOR HIS LITTLE WAR..LOOK AT THE DATE AT THE END OF THE QUOTE.. "It appears that the money has been moved in the president’s budget to handle homeland security AND THE WAR IN IRAQ, and I suppose that’s the price we pay. Nobody locally is happy that the levees can’t be finished, and we are doing everything we can to make the case that this is a security issue for us." -- Walter Maestri, emergency management chief for Jefferson Parish, Louisiana; New Orleans Times-Picayune, June 8, 2004.
I WONDER IF BUSH EVER FEELS GUILTY..HE SHOULD!

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Submitted by Cyclist on Fri, 07/20/2007 - 6:59pm.

Bush’s proposed cut of the Corps’ budget is part of a process for a negotiated budget. Congress proposed a cut which was $20 million less than Bush’s cut but, still a cut. Typically, in the backrooms of Congress, some arm twisting is done and compromises are made and, in the end, a negotiated budget is reached.
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Submitted by hutch866 on Fri, 07/20/2007 - 5:24pm.

How much did New Orleans and La. spend? Why is it only the federal gov. duty to fund this.

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Submitted by NOVFP on Sun, 07/22/2007 - 2:15am.

The reason the city or state of Louisiana did not pay for levees being fixed prior to Katrina id the same reason non of the levee systems in all 50 states are in disrepair. Because it is not their job to pay for it. The Army Corps of engineers are paid out of the Federal budget! Any repairs need to be done by those responsible for maintaining them. That is not to say the city and the state did not make the Federal government aware of the potential threat. For years the geology scientists have been warning of levee failures if the City was hit with a cat 3 or above hurricane. When the war started the money that was in the Army Corps budget to maintain the levees was cut, twice buy the President in order to pay for the war in Iraq.

Submitted by too bad on Sun, 07/22/2007 - 7:43am.

I know some of their FEMA maps are over 40 years old, and if you want new ones done of your area, you have to pay for the survey, or, if it is a large area. FEMA says you must persuade the local govs to foot the bill for new maps. They say they don't have the money, but if you google their web site, they sure have some staggering pay for their jobs. It seems they put all their money into saleries and the public can just eat cake! But if we needed up to date maps of Iraq, I bet we would get those in a heart beat. When Bush ran for office, it was brought up that he wasn't so smart and then people were assured he had a great team around him and couldn't mess up too bad, they didn't count on him being so pig headed with his on personal agenda. The more he pursues the war and squandering our money there, the more apparent it seems he doesn't care what we think. He will fight that war till his last day in the white house.

PS. A friend said there was a thing on TV last week talking about the terrorist. That they were back n we had good info that they were going to target either NY, Miami, Boston, Washington, or LA.and it might be nucleor this time. Nice the pres squandered time in Iraq when we should have been working on the local issues, like levees and borders. I guess the next terrorist will have just got their citizenship and be head of the PTA if Bush has his way. Did anyone see the documentary?

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Submitted by Cyclist on Sun, 07/22/2007 - 6:17am.

Prove it. Back-up your claim with evidence.

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Submitted by dollaradayandfound on Sun, 07/22/2007 - 6:32am.

You haven't known for 25 years that the N. O. Levee system was in severe need of repair?
I suppose the Corp of Engineers can't read much, or they surely would have known!
That system is just the tip of the needs for infrastructure repair and expansion desperately needed in the USA.
The Interstates are over fifty years old, the bridges are fifty years old and deteriorating swiftly, all of our dams are leaking and dangerous, our electrical needs are at 101% of capacity NOW.
And saddest of all, our ability now to manufacture anything in quantity, due to no trained labor force, engineers, manufacturing experts, and much else would actually be a severe burden for us if we were engaged in a major war like WWII.
We need desperately some brains sent to Washington, soon, or we will be a second world country. Oh, the top 15% of our dudes will be Ok, but not you and I.

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Submitted by Cyclist on Sun, 07/22/2007 - 6:48am.

Back to your dumbing down blog?

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Submitted by too bad on Fri, 07/20/2007 - 5:28pm.

we the south pay taxes too, and the last time I checked once in a while some of it should be spent on us. How much was New York? The truth is ..the president gambled with those people's lives, and they lost his bet.

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Submitted by Git Real on Fri, 07/20/2007 - 5:35pm.

Please don't talk with your mouth full. If you're going to post please have the courtesy to do so in a manner so that the rest of us can make out what you are trying to say. Otherwise please don't waste your time posting. It's difficult enough trying to decipher what Dollar, Grif Guy, and IDRIVETOOFAST are trying to say.

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Submitted by hutch866 on Fri, 07/20/2007 - 5:33pm.

You never answered the question how much did the city and state spend?

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Submitted by too bad on Fri, 07/20/2007 - 5:39pm.

but the point is who spent the rest...Bush...on what? the war..my thoughts have always been that the money should be spent here on the taxpayers 1st. We are killing our kids over there and blowing money right n left, we even have a program that is PR over there, to make them like us. If Bush had left that money alone and let it be spent where it was intended, this wouldn't have happened. I don't care about Irag...I care about people here 1st.

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Submitted by hutch866 on Fri, 07/20/2007 - 5:44pm.

The point is also self resposibility, you can't blame it all on the feds when the city and state wont spend either and why did Ray wait so long to declare an evacuation and if your going to blame the feds for their response after the storm where was the state when the people needed help, if you're going to blame one you have to blame them all.

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Submitted by too bad on Fri, 07/20/2007 - 5:58pm.

Bush did use the money set aside for the levees on his war. If the money had been spent on the levees and our own people, this wouldn't have happened...what don't you get? Speaking of self responsibility...it would appear, Bush has none, and never holds himself accountable for any of his blunders. lets go at this again.
1. money was put aside for a potential disaster...Ny, San Francisco, or NO

2. we had already thrown tons into the New York pit

3. not everyone lives in or even likes New York

4. the levees needed more work and they knew the money was needed there

5. Bush squandered it on door no 4 [not an option] Iraq

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Submitted by bad_ptc on Fri, 07/20/2007 - 11:49pm.

"Bush did use the money set aside for the levees on his war."

Show me the appropriations that were diverted/stolen by Bush that were originally approved by the House and the Senate for New Orleans and then used in Iraq.

Please list the House or Senate bill numbers for easy reference.

If you can’t, and you wont be able to, then stop lying about your how the Govt. ripped you off by not sending you FREE money.

"we had already thrown tons into the New York pit"

That's because nobody’s trying to kill innocent people in New Orleans. The terrorist’s of the world already know that God will finish off New Orleans in good time. I see a cat 5 in there future.

” the levees needed more work and they knew the money was needed there”

Just how much more money do we need to spend to keep water out of a place that’s two meters below sea level?

Louisiana had a tax surplus of 1.2 BILLION as of April 2007, why aren’t you asking where that money went?


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Submitted by hutch866 on Sat, 07/21/2007 - 8:25am.

He thinks its only the feds job to keep the citizens safe not the state's or city's.

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Submitted by too bad on Sat, 07/21/2007 - 7:39am.

The blog quoted the sources where the info came from and it was written BEFORE the hurricane, if you care to check the dates. "That's because nobody’s trying to kill innocent people in New Orleans. The terrorist’s of the world already know that God will finish off New Orleans in good time. I see a cat 5 in there future."

God won't finish off New Orleans in good time cause you don't like it. I'm glad that you are on such good terms with God he gives you visions of a cat 5. Nobody's trying to kill innocent people in New Orleans? How bout taking the money that should have been used for prevention and spending it on your pet project? Iraq

People know terrorist have been after New York and struck at it more than once, I would call that hazard to one's health. Why don't you go back there?

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Submitted by bad_ptc on Sat, 07/21/2007 - 8:03am.

"How bout taking the money that should have been used for prevention and spending it on your pet project? Iraq"

SHOW ME THE MONEY!

If you can't, then you're lying. It's that simple.


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Submitted by bad_ptc on Sat, 07/21/2007 - 8:29am.

While you're at it show me one post, just one, where I've supported the war in Iraq.

You wont be able to do "that" either.

As you are relatively new here you should do a google search of this site and my user name.

You will find that I'm one of the more critical opponents of the war.

So that's twice you've made accusations that you can't prove to be right. Your credibility is zilch at this point but keep blogging; you'll no doubt be three for three soon.


Submitted by too bad on Sat, 07/21/2007 - 8:22am.

the quotes where from the Houston Chronicle and Walter Maestri, Emergency Management chief of Jefferson Parish, La. and the Times-Picayune...I'm sure if they were wrong, they would have been made to print a correction. They didn't all get it wrong, if you think I'm gonna take my Sat n scan gov docs to please you, you are nuts. Go call these people liars and wail at them for a retraction. We have thrown away money in Iraq that could have saved lives here, I don't have to disprove that to you, most people here are displeased with the war, the lives it cost ..US over there, and the squandering of the money, have you seen ...ANY polls lately? I'm not going to waste anymore of my time with you, but, Ill give you a Sat project, you check where Bush got all the money from the war, and YOU prove it didn't come from other projects that were to be spent in the US. show us all how the money fell from the sky for Bush to wage his war. You do see visions of cat 5s, this should be a snap!

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Submitted by bad_ptc on Sat, 07/21/2007 - 8:49am.

"It appears that the money has been moved in the president's budget to handle homeland security and the war in Iraq, and I suppose that's the price we pay.”

It “appears”?

”The mayor of New Orleans was counting on helicopters to put in place massive sandbags to repair the levee.”

The mayor of New Orleans was counting on someone else doing his job for him, again.

Again, you offer no proof of anything you say other than to quote someone else.

That has about as much validity as quoting you, NOT!

”Distracted by its phony war on terrorism, the U.S. government had made no preparations in the event Hurricane Katrina brought catastrophe to New Orleans. No contingency plan existed.”

Please show me where the state of Louisiana and/or the city of New Orleans made preparations in the event Hurricane Katrina brought catastrophe to New Orleans. It’s obvious that no contingency plan existed there either.

They must have the memory like yours, “I don’t ever remember New Orleans flooding before”.

Since you relying solely on the word of Walter Maestri, emergency management chief for Jefferson Parish, ask him where he has proof of his rhetoric.

Does Walter Maestri, emergency management chief for Jefferson Parish, also believe the world is flat? If he said it you’d have to believe him right?

Quit blindly believing what others tell you and learn to get proof of what they say. At least that way you would look less foolish when you quote them.


Submitted by dollaradayandfound on Sat, 07/21/2007 - 5:36am.

Are you trying to say that if we had the half-trillion so-far invested in the war there wouldn't have been a better use for it?

That is like Sonny Perdue saying that he has billions in surplus but it is earmarked for hard times, not Peach Care! Really is marked for corporate tax breaks!

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Submitted by bad_ptc on Sat, 07/21/2007 - 7:07am.

What I asked "too bad" was, if Louisiana had a tax surplus of 1.2 BILLION as of April 2007, why isn't he/she asking where that money went?

Why must it always be the Fed. Govt.'s money, my tax dollars, to fix a “local” problem?

Why can't Louisiana use 500 million of its own money for improvements to its own infrastructure?

I would imagine that they get better news sound bytes when they say that the Fed. Govt. has “abandoned us” or “Bush doesn’t care about us”.

As with any small time politician, Louisiana state representatives, it’s better to sound good than to actually do good.


Submitted by dollaradayandfound on Sat, 07/21/2007 - 5:35am.

Once is enough.

Submitted by dollaradayandfound on Sat, 07/21/2007 - 5:34am.

Only needed to be said once.

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Submitted by hutch866 on Fri, 07/20/2007 - 6:01pm.

If the state and city don't deem it important why should the feds?

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Submitted by too bad on Fri, 07/20/2007 - 6:00pm.

I'm not goint to saw the same log with you all night

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Submitted by hutch866 on Fri, 07/20/2007 - 6:02pm.

Not with that same old dull saw.

I yam what I yam...Popeye


Submitted by too bad on Fri, 07/20/2007 - 5:14pm.

I think this tells it all, maybe it should be written on those Katrina victim's tomb stones, or...Bush's.

Submitted by too bad on Fri, 07/20/2007 - 5:20pm.

why Bush acted like it was the Victims' fault, or anyone but his and the government's? He used the money that should have been used on the levees to do his thing in Iraq, he put his personal grudge in front of the saftey of those people and then they tried to smear the dead and imply it was their fault and that the survivors deserve no help cause they are black and lazy. The truth is he already spent the money on his pet project...the war!

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Submitted by maximus on Fri, 07/20/2007 - 6:00pm.

I think you forgot to mention that it was Bush’s global warming that caused the hurricane in the first place. And when that didn’t do enough damage he blew the levee!


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