Resident wants to ban for-sale autos in yards

Tue, 07/03/2007 - 4:02pm
By: John Thompson

Linda Crowden is tired of seeing cars for sale dotting the scenic byways of Fayette County.

During last week’s County Commission meeting, Crowden, a 10-year resident, said she saw occasional cars for sale in a yard or a vacant lot. But now, the problem has got much worse.

“At that time, the county had an ordinance in the books that did not allow cars to be parked on the grass and the marshal’s office had the authority to ask the resident to remove the vehicle,” she said.

But in 2005, the County Commission deleted the provision concerning parking on the grass.

“Since the article was changed, I have noticed a tremendous increase in residential car lots and junkyards. Over the past several years, I have talked to the marshal’s office regarding various offenses, but the officers tell me that their hands are tied. Without the law, there is nothing they can do,” she said.

Crowden said there are hundreds of cars parked throughout the county on lawns and many of them are for sale. She asked the county to consider adopting several ordinances to deal with quality of life issues, including:

• Prohibiting cars from parking on non-paved surfaces.

• Setting a standard for the number of cars allowed to park in a residential driveway.

• Adopting a standard for the number of people allowed per residence, similar to Fayetteville’s recently enacted ordinance.

• Prohibiting junk cars on residential and commercial lots.

“The residents of Fayette County look to the county commissioners to protect our property values and the quality of our life. If you maintain our property values, we will maintain your tax base,” she said.

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Submitted by jollibee on Thu, 01/29/2009 - 1:28am.

that is very irrational.. direct mail postcards

Submitted by asiseeit on Fri, 07/06/2007 - 5:07pm.

I skimmed over this article very quickly the other day. In my haste I misunderstood: I thought the article stated that Linda Crowden was a "10 year OLD resident" instead of a "10 year resident". I thought the article was cute but not really newsworthy.
When a friend told me Linda Crowden is an adult I put my house up for sale. Thanks, Linda! SEE Ya!!!!!!!

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Submitted by Robert W. Morgan on Thu, 01/29/2009 - 8:17am.

Get a hobby Linda. Maybe you can drive for meals on wheels and get a first hand look at people with real problems. In some cases they may have a junker in their yard because it is their only car which does not run because they can't afford the repairs. Then you can lecture them after you have delivered their only hot meal of the week.

Anybody in local government that takes this woman seriously needs to be fired or not reelected.

Stay out of our lives Linda. We don't need you looking down your nose at the rest of us.


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Submitted by diva on Thu, 01/29/2009 - 9:19am.

I'm always amazed at folks who think government needs even MORE control over our lives! I could not agree with you more!

Cheers!


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Submitted by sourmugrn on Thu, 07/05/2007 - 12:23pm.

I moved here 7 years ago to improve my quality of life. I liked the fact that the houses weren't piled on top of each other, there were lots of trees, and crime was low. Now it seems that enormous houses are being built on smaller and smaller lots. Every piece of undeveloped property seems to be clear cut for housing or more repetitive retail outlets than any one community needs. I feel unsafe going shopping, because of the crime and drug busts. The traffic is ungodly and people drive by their own interpretation of the rules of the road. The noise from the airplanes going over my house is almost unbearable now. I haven't noticed that many cars for sale in people's yards, but I'd rather see a car for sale in every yard in the county, than any one of the other things I've mentioned. As far as setting standards, if we all wanted laws like neighborhood covenants, we wouldn't have bought property in unincorporated Fayette County. Ms. Crowden should be more concerned with the fact that we are turning into Clayton County with nicer houses, than that a few people are trying to sell their car for a fair price instead of being ripped off by an auto dealer.


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Submitted by HandleThis on Thu, 07/05/2007 - 12:05pm.

Go back home you fascist jerk! Or how's this: Cry me a river, build a bridge, then GET OVER IT...


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Submitted by PTC_New_Native on Mon, 07/09/2007 - 12:13pm.

I think she was concerned with junk cars and ensuring that neighborhoods and property values stayed level. Even if she didn’t, we can express our views without attacking her. To use the terms that you applied are only attacking her and not providing any concrete views to the contrary. Is this because of a lack of intelligence on your part?

Fascist, DAMN. Let’s attack the view and not the person.

The More I learn, the Less I know


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Submitted by Emmyjune on Thu, 07/05/2007 - 8:15am.

Give me a freakin' break!


Submitted by KBETS on Thu, 07/05/2007 - 12:12am.

iF YOU DONT LIKE IT HERE LEAVE.

Submitted by 30YearResident on Wed, 07/04/2007 - 3:44pm.

but until you start paying part of my house payment and my taxes, please don't tell me what I can and can't do in parking a car I might want to sell in my front yard.
If you want it out of my yard, then buy it!

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Submitted by Mixer on Wed, 07/04/2007 - 5:30pm.

Submitted by dollaradayandfound on Wed, 07/04/2007 - 4:09pm.

If someone bought it just to remove it, that would just encourge you to go to the auto auction every week!
You could try a perpetual yard sale on the other side of your front yard, also. Good money there---especially if you drive the length of Alabama every week-end picking up trash.
Now, in the back yard, there are no limits as to what you can do. Some kind of carnival would go over good with the kids. A firecracker stand at the entrance would bing in a lot of red-neks.
Old sofas and refrigerators on your front stoop also appeal to shoppers. Blue tarps on your roof attract people to buy, since they figure you got some FRMA money.
Gravel driveways, mostly clay, stir up enormous clouds of dust to drift onto neighbors and tick them off, also. Nasty shedding trees, placed such that most of the trash droppings fall onto neighbors makes for a good neighboer, too.
Late night parties with on-street and neighbor parking are jsut right.

Submitted by 30YearResident on Wed, 07/04/2007 - 5:23pm.

I think you're overpaid.

Submitted by dollaradayandfound on Wed, 07/04/2007 - 5:27pm.

The advice is free!

Submitted by NinaLynn on Wed, 07/04/2007 - 2:30pm.

that's just what some "special" people are...just thought I'd pop my 2 cents here. Kind of goes with this comment by Crowden. I believe it was last week some woman said the parade on the 4th is for PTC ( gee, I thought it was for OUR Country) and it should be for their "residents only".Do me a favor, don't show up in the pavilion,restaurants or other stores in Faye'. They are for "Fayetteville" residents only............Oh Yeah, right ! ! ! ! I keep thinking about her writing that,just who does she think she is? I for one am NOT impressed that she lives in PTC. I'm here in Faye' with plenty of acerage while she sits on a postage stamp! Whoo pee doo da day. Thanks for letting me put my 2 cents in, I went over, perhaps a nickle's worth! Shocked)

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Submitted by cowtipn on Wed, 07/04/2007 - 1:31pm.

How about the relentless invasion of shopping centers and traffic? If there is ever an eyesore to fight in Fayette, it's homogenistic commercialism. Or how about nagging soccer moms who think they know what's best for everyone? Go home Ms. Crowden.


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Submitted by Richard Hobbs on Wed, 07/04/2007 - 11:02am.

The one main reason so many of us have moved to Fayette County is due to the quality of life. However, on the other hand I have very strong libertarian leanings, so I usually balk at any governmental interference into how I choose to use my property. Having said that, I've come to the conclusion that Fayette County, especially from Hwy 54 north and east, is slowly moving into that wonderful libertarian mecca called Clayton County.

The property owners there put up signs on every scrap piece of land they own. Neighborhoods evolve seemingly overnight from strong communities of families, to transient renters working\repairing numerous cars in their front yard while their pit bull barks from a chain tied to a tree next to their broken mail boxes.

I've also observed numerous property owners in Fayette County who have shown a remarkable ability to have a new/different car parked in their front yard every other week up for sale. I know that they are using their property as a second retail business for their used car lot and often their cars are classics that I even find hard driving by without stopping. Sure they only bring one or two out to sell, but for all practical purposes, they are using their home as a second business.

Its not easy deciding on where to draw the line in determining where a reasonable use of one's property has crossed the line of lowering the overall quality of life in our community. The Fayette Pavilion may have been legally built, but the quality of life in Fayette has diminished greatly because of it. Parking one or two cars on your front lawn for others to see everyday on their way to and from their homes, may not be that intrusive, but imagine if EVERY property owner up and down Hwy 54 placed three or four vehicles up for sale. If they have that legal right to do this, then this problem albeit minimal now, will only increase with time and with the influx of new residents who think Clayton County isn't so bad and that they have a God given right to use their property any dang way they feel like.

Fayette County limits the business owners in the size of their signs. Planning and Zoning limits property owners as to what they can and can not build on their property. Mobile homes are shunned from coming into our county, save that of those parks already present. So, Fayette County has already done a great deal of controlling its resident's use of their land in order to maintain the quality of life. So, placing some rather specific and appropriate restrictions on publicly selling personal property items on your residential property seems like an idea that should be considered as an important part of our maintaining our current quality of living.

For those of you that think this request is crossing the line of reasonableness, well I'd suggest to you that your opinions of reasonable restrictions would be similarly mocked by those residents in Clayton and Fulton.

Our Government has specific duties and responsibilities, and it is both fitting and responsible to consider this matter with both the hindsight of what restrictions have helped build such a wonderful community and with some foresight in looking at what might happen if we do nothing at all. Only time will tell if this problem was but one more step in making our Fayette County turn into Clayton.

I don't own any land myself. I have several deeds that list my names on certain pieces of real estate, but in actuality, they only give me the authority, with the protection of my Government, to use that property as the law allows, for the very few years my Creator allows me to enjoy those properties. In reality, I'm just renting it from God, until my last breath.


Submitted by dollaradayandfound on Wed, 07/04/2007 - 2:50pm.

I have never known a Libertarian who wanted all kinds of laws to protect their property!

It seems that it is the old story of who can help their ox out of a ditch, being gored by a bull, on Sunday, the Sabbath. The answer: it depends upon whether it is my ox or yours.

Submitted by skyspy on Tue, 07/03/2007 - 5:44pm.

Huh?? Where on earth? riverdale is trying to move in, and you are trying to stop it. Who do you think you are?

What's next?? Do you want parents to be parents and discilpline their kids???

Even PTC doesn't enforce this one.....sheeesh.

Submitted by jonzieg1228 on Tue, 07/03/2007 - 5:50pm.

what does parenting have to do with anything in this article? these laws won't stop riverdale migrations. I'm ok with limiting the number of residents and cars due to illegal immigration. However, selling a car on my five acre lawn should not be illegal. And we country residents don't all have completely paved driveways nor do we want to spend the money for one.

Submitted by skyspy on Tue, 07/03/2007 - 5:54pm.

It's called sarcasm!
Our sheriff's dept. officers seem to be the only ones taking their jobs seriously.

Submitted by jonzieg1228 on Tue, 07/03/2007 - 5:38pm.

This person needs to move to Peachtree City. Unincorporated Fayetteville residents live here because we don't want the laws this person is asking for. We live in the country for a reason. Leave us alone.

Submitted by ihaveone on Tue, 07/03/2007 - 4:50pm.

She has been here 10 years and wants to tell people that have grown up here that we can not sale a car from our OWN front yard? This is too funny.

Submitted by IMNSHO on Tue, 07/03/2007 - 4:22pm.

Prohibiting cars from parking on non-paved surfaces
Not all houses in the county have paved driveways. Are we going to force them to pave those driveways so when they have visitors, no one is breaking the law by parking on the driveway?

Setting a standard for the number of cars allowed to park in a residential driveway.
I'm guessing she means on a regular basis. But even then, what business of the county's is it how many cars I have, especially if they're all in working condition? And how do you decide the standard? One car per driver? Four cars per household?

Adopting a standard for the number of people allowed per residence, similar to Fayetteville’s recently enacted ordinance.
This has nothing to do with the main issue she is trying to get changed, that of too many for-sale cars parked in residential areas.

Prohibiting junk cars on residential and commercial lots. Oh good grief. I can see limiting "junk" cars (I think she means cars that are not drivable) to one per residence. I can even see requiring them to be parked behind the house. But to prohibit them completely?

Personally, I think if I want to park my car at the front of my yard and put it up for sale, I should be able to. I don't see it as an eyesore, and I don't see it as being an overwhelming problem in the county. I think someone needs to find something more constructive to do with her time. But that's just my NSHO. Smiling

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Submitted by slider on Tue, 07/03/2007 - 5:22pm.

Some one has WAY too much time on her hands!
I've lived here all my life, and I am sick of people moving in , then worrying about things like this. I bet she would be the one having fits if someone wanted to cut trees down on their own property, or had a dog that barks(thats what dogs do ) . ect.
Go back where you came from , and try to make that place the perfect place to live !


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