I would ask you to read this blather above carefully. I won't go into disputing every item he mentions here due to limited space and the fact that no one would read it all.
Just one thing he said, and the depth of thought he must have put into it:
Build a 3000 mile, plus or minus, triple wall with roads between the two outside walls, across the Mexican border IN ONE YEAR AND HAVE IT MANNED AND OPERATING IN A YEAR.
Even if any kind of wall worked, and they don't, it is physically impossible to do that. Apparently Newt doesn't have any friends who are engineers or thinkers. He is supposed to know History, but maybe not wall history.
I'm not going to go into the millions of tons of materials needed, the tens of thousands of machinery needed, the tens of thousands of worker needed (with no place to find food and shelter in most of it), and then the quantity of people needed to just maintain it and guard it. Electronic devices malfunction all the time, or, are blown up!
Unfortunately there are enough dumb people out there who are for someone who says what they want to hear, and will accept all the excuses why it doesn't happen later. Like in Iraq!!!
DONT HIRE THEM AND THEY WILL GO AWAY.

I would ask you to read this blather above carefully. I won't go into disputing every item he mentions here due to limited space and the fact that no one would read it all.
Just one thing he said, and the depth of thought he must have put into it:
Build a 3000 mile, plus or minus, triple wall with roads between the two outside walls, across the Mexican border IN ONE YEAR AND HAVE IT MANNED AND OPERATING IN A YEAR.
Even if any kind of wall worked, and they don't, it is physically impossible to do that. Apparently Newt doesn't have any friends who are engineers or thinkers. He is supposed to know History, but maybe not wall history.
I'm not going to go into the millions of tons of materials needed, the tens of thousands of machinery needed, the tens of thousands of worker needed (with no place to find food and shelter in most of it), and then the quantity of people needed to just maintain it and guard it. Electronic devices malfunction all the time, or, are blown up!
Unfortunately there are enough dumb people out there who are for someone who says what they want to hear, and will accept all the excuses why it doesn't happen later. Like in Iraq!!!
DONT HIRE THEM AND THEY WILL GO AWAY.

Those are wonderfull ideas! We could stop this is a short time if our Pres wanted to. I thought it very telling in an interview after congress let him know he they weren't all with him on makinging illegals...legal. He stated he was later meeting with the home builders assoc to try to drumm up support. He should have said drumm up donations, they are the ones who's profits would go from prob 30% or more to 10% like most companies.

I was quoting a woman who wrote this to a paper, if you don't like the grammer, talk to her. Her idea was cute and I do see the analogy! There is nothing racist or bigoted of wanting illegals to play by the same rules as everyone else who came here. I would say the ignorant, racist bigots are the ones wanting the laws changed to accomodate themselves. I doubt that these sort of people who don't respect our laws now would have any more respect for them or us, after they were made citizens. I do think however, your cartoon of a little banny rooster strutting his stuff seems to suit you!

Someone sent this to me as an email. Pretty much says it all.

I welcome them here if they become legal, and speak our language.

P.S. Wouldn't you like to smack that little rooster?

I think verbally, you just did!

Too bad should quit while he's behind. I can only assume this is one of the more educated persons on this board, wht wth th prfct wrtng n ll.

"The memories of a man in his old age, are the deeds of a man in his prime.You shuffle in the gloom of the sick room,and talk to yourself as you die."
(R. Waters)

dumb Mexicans, huh? What is a "YOUR required?"
No one 'said' Dumb Mexs but you...'your required?' means that it is expected...commanded...by people who could never get in this country...LEGALLY...they would have to be on the wait list ahead of people that played by the rules and also..had something to offer..
You did ask them to do all that work didn't you? No I haven't asked them to do squatt for me...I think you are Mex with an ax to grind...the kind we don't need...Just to let you know...I don't think you read much...we got many scientist from Germany, thinkers from Europe, etc..now let me get this right..and I want you to say it is true...all the people on the wait list that came here legaly and are still on it wanting in, should take a back seat to the likes of you, that cheat in line, whine, and don't have much to offer, except..you owe me? for getting here illegally? Did I leave out any of your phyic traits? I bet you have lived off the American dole since you came...I am something like 10th generation American, not that it would mean anything to your kind. No one in my family has EVER been on the dole...ever..but my family has fought in every war for the US and never got, nor asked for anything....we earned MORE... than you EVER will...and we have never AKSED FOR ..OR DEMANDED ANYTHING...you, nor yours, could ever say the same. Tell me if I'm wrong...I can't wait to hear...this is going to be funny!

Si, senior. Muchas gracias.
By the way, Germany is in Europe!
Your (like, "your watch") You're ("you are").
Who was that one scientist from Germany?
If they came here legaly(sic), then why are they still on wait list?
What are my phyic (sic) traits? I don't know! I'm human!
My first relative into USA was a child of a Lady-in-Waiting for the Queen of England. We never had to earn much, we brought a fortune with us!
I think you can go as fast as you like with me. I understand babble quite well.

People who are here legally can end up on wait lists for years and end up having to pay out hundreds of dollars (if you do all of the paperwork yourself) or thousands of dollars (if you can afford a lawyer to do it) to keep themselves legal. I have been through it and the paperwork is frightening. Just thought I'd share that with you.

You could teach babble.

I yam what I yam...Popeye

I suggest you leave this board...and If we are lucky, this country...and take your family with you...do you understand this? or ..do we have to go ..r..e..a...llllll ...s...l..o..w... again? habla anything...except me me me first?

while I'm on a role...I don't understand why people like you are not thrown off this board for being stupid...and smart ones that say 4 letter words are? Maybe when you learn more English or get a job...we won't hear from you as much...or maybe ..you will be deported for some sort of fraud...other than implying you have a brain!

Dollar has the right to make dumb statements. But I don't know why he has used some 4 letter words himself and was never caught. (I've seen some of his posts before that were never edited IIRC.)

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Tell Senior El Presidente no to amnesty!

The hat is cute! I saw the estimate, 12 million somewhere. Ok if we make 12 mil legal, and they sponsor Mom and Pop, then one or two sisters and brothers etc. We just got at least another 48 million in addition to the first 12 million illegals!

Why is everyone equating illegal immigrants with Mexico & Mexicans?(pix of prez in sombrero) There are plenty of illegals in this country from Europe and other parts of the world.

Sorry -- double post!

blooming, the reason I use President Bush in a sombrero and in traditional Vaquero garb as my avatar, is to satirize his plan to make us the "United States of Amexico" which I strongly disagree with. You're right that Mexicans are not the only ones entering the country illegally, but they are by far the majority.

Entering the country illegally whether you're Mexican, British, Japanese, or UFO Alien is a crime and offenders should be dealt with in accordance with the law.

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Tell Senior El Presidente no to amnesty!

not millions of them.

I yam what I yam...Popeye

No offense but the convenient immigration battle cry has been to portray it as a problem consisting exclusively of Mexican and Central and South American illegal immigrants. It's convenient because they tend to stand out; they're brown skinned, very poor and it's easy to identify how they got here by focusing on the southern border of the United States.

However, no one is focusing on the Chinese smuggling rings. A few years ago, they caught a container ship in the Savannah Port with illegal Chinese immigrants in a hold that was welded shut. How many more have slipped through unnoticed? It's not so easy to focus a camera on a predictable spot in the country and identify the Chinese as the scourge of our country but that doesn't make those Chinese immigrants any more legally-entitled to be in the US. And New York City has had several instances in which people from Asian and former Soviet-block countries were held in indentured servitude/slavery in the basement of private homes, working in the skin trades or sewing cheap garments 18 hours a day under threat of death to pay for their illegal passage to the US. And some of those Asians bring gang violence with them. The same can be said of the Russian Mafia, which is a growing threat to societal order in the northeastern US.

My only endeavor is -- and has consistently been -- to point out that the characterization of illegal immigration as a southern borders problem can easily appear to be racially motivated because there seems to be a staunch refusal to acknowledge that deporting every illegal immigrant from south of the border would not, in fact, rid the US of illegal immigrants . . . just illegal Latino immigrants. Fair is fair. If we choose to deport, deport them ALL (all races, all nationalities all skill sets). If an illegal is taking an American job, it shouldn't matter if that job is skilled or unskilled. Surely, there is an American who is capable and willing to do it.

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If you and I are always in agreement, one of us is likely armed and dangerous.

It doesn't matter to me what their race or point of origin is, deport them all, but it is easier for the Latinos to enter and they seem to have some idea of a right to work and live here without following the rules to enter.

I yam what I yam...Popeye