School Officials and Arrests: What to do?

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The thread for the recent arrest of a Whitewater high School Assistant Principal has gotten quite long and, due to some unfortunate comments by a few, very 'scattered'.

Somewhere in this discussion a very important and worthwhile topic was diluted that I feel should be addressed by the community.

What (if anything) should be done when a teacher, administrator, county office employee, or county school board member official is arrested, charged, or found guilty of a crime?

I think your input as the 'community' is critical.

Keep in mind that teachers and school system employees are charged to reflect and uphold the highest mores and norms of the community.

What say you?

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Submitted by JoAnn on Sat, 06/16/2007 - 9:55pm.

Why a public apology? She is human. We do make errors, we were made that way. WHY should she apologize? Except to make YOU feel good. Grow up, we are adults and we do things. It is Saturday Night at around 10 pm, where are you at home, on a golf cart, at church, etc? Did you have anything to drink at Dinner? My daughter goes to WWHS, I do not expect an apology. I hope that Mrs. Pina puts this behind her and goes on with her life, respectfully. No thanks to most of you.

Submitted by wheeljc on Fri, 06/15/2007 - 2:50pm.

Agree with the notion that each case should be treated on its own merits, and that most Americans -- during a lifetime -- will commit an act that we will subsequently regret.

That being said, had a real problem with the attempt by the husband first, and the wife later, attempting to spin the incident to their favor. To me, that was even a larger problem than drinking a driving. THEY FAILED TO ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR ACTIONS, and went so far as to suggest it was the 'announcement's' fault that she was out at 12:30 on her golf cart after blowing a .135! Have never seen some one in jail that would admit they should be there, and felt that the wife took the readership as a cast of fools to believe her and her husband's spin.

Surely, school administrators are advised of do's and don'ts, and surely, drinking and driving is one of them! One question: how will kids at Whitewater react to her guidance and leadership in the future? Will parents have faith and confidence in her?

Submitted by JoAnn on Sat, 06/16/2007 - 9:57pm.

Whatever, it depends on what kind of teacher she is. What kind of parent are you? Did you EVER do anything wrong?

Submitted by Baker on Fri, 06/15/2007 - 2:48pm.

Both the position of the person and the crime committed need to be taken into consideration. I feel that in the case of someone who is in a position to influence teenagers needs to understand that they are always on public display whether they like it or not. Would a congregation follow a pastor who publicly stated that he/she worshiped the devil? Then why should we allow a high school administrator who publicly drank and drive lead our teenagers?

I know that may be a bit far fetched, but at least I am not discussing the eating habits of jungle animals whilst trying to make a point about drunk driving.

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Submitted by poipendicular on Fri, 06/15/2007 - 2:24pm.

While I feel sorry for Pina being thrown into this public controversy. She does have to be more careful in her everyday actions. Underage drinking is a problem across the nation. She should be treated as a regular citizen in regards to her DUI. Was the media attention undue? No it's not. She is to be a role model for our children and hers. This is a catch -22 for people in public positions. But as history has shown us with Ted Kennedy and George W. Bush, we should put aside their reckless behavior and let them continue in such high powered positions. Now that being said, the next minute offense she makes, it should be "Off with her head!"


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Submitted by Basmati on Fri, 06/15/2007 - 1:49pm.

My opinion as to what school officials should do for a drunk driving arrest?

Not a thing.

IF it's a first offense, AND it wasn't on school property, I think a school employee should not be made to suffer professionally for this offense.

There are crimes of "moral turpitude" that school employees should answer for (seducing students, drunk in class, teaching "creation science", etc). I don't believe that a drunk driving first offense rises to this level of severity.

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Submitted by JoAnn on Sat, 06/16/2007 - 10:01pm.

I have to agree this is one thing we agree on. I am thinking - WHATEVER? Do we not have any better news in Fayette County? Why don't The Citizen give me a list of Sexual Predators rather than the teachers that are maybe DUI on a golf cart? Need an answer?????

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Submitted by Mixer on Sat, 06/16/2007 - 8:45pm.

... that recognizes (and appreciates) your lefty nuances? Sometimes I think the rest of the world is functioning on another wavelength altogether.

If WWII had been covered by the Modern Media: Great Video


Submitted by rick7069 on Fri, 06/15/2007 - 1:16pm.

I do agree with McDonoughDog. As famously quoted:
"It has been my experience that folks who have no vices have very few virtues." Abe Lincoln.
That being said, I do not believe in any zero tolerance policy. Every situation is different, any one size fits all punishment simply mocks justice. We should have administrators who are able to look at a situation, then logically and compassionately make decisions on how to handle it. Some people have honestly only made a mistake, are sorry and would go on to be great people. Other people have more problems (don't we all) and should not continue to serve the public. Without a close involvement in the situation, anyone who knows the answer fits with great saying - opinions are like *****, everyone has one.
Also, denial and not admitting guilt to the public, like has been done on this site in this situation, is not necessarily an indicator of not being sorry. Admitting guilt can have serious litigational consequences and should probably be avoided in the public arena, as any lawyer would attest.

Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Fri, 06/15/2007 - 12:44pm.

I think Felonies should be treated much different than other crimes for sure. I can't think of a reason that a Felony conviction shouldn't lead to immediate dismissal.

The others I would have to say should be handled on a case by case basis. Considering all contributing factors. Is this the first time? etc.

Your choice of words (scattered) was excellent in describing that thread.

Submitted by susieq on Fri, 06/15/2007 - 2:29pm.

The key word here is conviction. I don't know of any big corporations that hire people with a prior felony conviction. Why should government jobs be any different?

Innocent until proven guilty is a thing of the past, according to the way people blog.

Bloggers, please, ask yourself this question before you click on the POST button: Would I post this if I had to sign my own name?

Submitted by rick7069 on Fri, 06/15/2007 - 2:39pm.

I am definitely a strong supporter of innocent until proven guilty in the Constitution. However, it only applies to gov., because gov. has the power to destroy you. It does not apply to individuals who do not have that power, like me. I can consider you guilty of anything I want. However, that doesn't preclude you from suing if I commit any slander.

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