Man injured, robbed at Fayetteville gas station

Mon, 05/21/2007 - 11:30am
By: John Munford

A man was injured early Sunday evening when he was accosted by two teenagers at a Fayetteville gas station, police said.

The victim was stabbed by one of the teens, but he didn’t see a weapon, police said.

“He definitely has a puncture wound,” said Lt. Beverly Trainor of the Fayetteville Police Department.

The incident occurred at the Cobblestone Amoco at 4:45 p.m. after the victim exited the car to head into the store when he was approached by the suspects, who asked him for a donation for an organization they were starting, police said.

The victim rebuffed the two and walked away towards the store when he felt a sharp stinging sensation to the left of his back near the rib cage, police said. One of the suspects then took the man’s wallet from his pocket and they both fled the scene on foot.

Instead of reporting the incident immediately to police, the victim drove himself to Piedmont Fayette Hospital, police said.

The first suspect was described as having brown skin, about 5’6” with a medium build, wearing a blue T-shirt and blue jean shorts. The second suspect was described as having very dark skin, about 5’5” to 5’6” with a skinny build and a small twist in his hair.

Police are encouraging anyone with information on this incident to contact the department at 770-461-4441.

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Submitted by sam0917 on Tue, 05/22/2007 - 7:49am.

Let's all be careful when we say we wish the police here would use more "deadly force". First of all, you must remember that if it were by their choice they probably would. But, they have rules and SOP's to follow because so many people have screamed that they are too quick to use "deadly force". So, now they have all of these conditions they have to stop and take the time to think about and see if the situation meets the criteria to be able to use "deadly force" so they don't risk loosing their jobs and having to go to the Russell building in Atlanta to justify why they protected their lives and the lives of their fellow officers and how they need this job to support their family because it's the only thing they know how to do. When they're trained they're taught to go to the next level of the criminal. This means to step your level of defense up one from the criminals. But, when it comes to justifying shooting someone they have to think twice because they know how things work here and because they also know that nine times out of ten they won't be patted on the back for having shot a criminal in this county. They'll be questioned, ridiculed, sued and have to endure the process of an internal investigation. Then, if they're found to be in the right, they'll be considered a hero. This is because of all of the bleeding hearts that think criminals should have sooooooooooooo many chances and rights. I know that if that had been my husband and my family at the gas station and those guys had even been around us he would've made us stay in the car and wait to see what they were going to do, even with his gun on his hip. But, I also know, that if he'd felt threatened he would've pulled his gun and dealt with the consequences of that later to protect his family first and himself. It's always a catch 22 for law enforcement, especially in counties like ours that are still a little bit behind the times in some things but I know they all depend on us and our support.


Submitted by MWF on Tue, 05/22/2007 - 9:06pm.

You obviously know what you are talking about; save a life by taking out a criminal and possibly lose your job and your entire career.

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Submitted by sam0917 on Wed, 05/23/2007 - 7:35am.

It's bad to say MWF but that is the truth. I know it first hand and see my husband battle with it everyday and it's frustrating for him and the people in Fayette County that are trying to be law abiding citizens but also want to protect themselves and their family.

I think like so many bloggers have said in the past, we need to be prepared because no matter how much we hate it, Fayette County is slowly turning into all of the counties around us where crime is concerned.

And, it's mainly because most of the crimes are committed by people that don't even live here. I just think we should all be prepared and not spend too much time being shocked over the crimes that are continuing to escalate.

It should be interesting to see how a new Sheriff will get things in order.


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Submitted by Git Real on Tue, 05/22/2007 - 8:28am.

Nobody here is looking for writing perfection. But....

Please create multiple paragraphs. I tried to read posting but it just started morphing into a bunch of garbage. Read it yourself lady and see how difficult your posting is on the eyes.

Re-write it and I'll promise that I'll ready it. And I'm sure others will to.

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Submitted by sam0917 on Wed, 05/23/2007 - 7:29am.

Sorry, I didn't realize we were grading each other on form and paragraph construction or the lack there of.

Is this enough space and separation for you Git Real?

I think that anyone interested would take the time to read it just like they take the time to read all of the blogs that the Grant family put in here defending Rahim. Let's stick to the point.


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Submitted by Git Real on Wed, 05/23/2007 - 8:52am.

Now you're talking! You have to understand I'm trying to get my job back with the Citizen. You know... Chief Moderator And Toilet Washer. Smiling With the Citizen being the top dog these days in news print you can imagine how good this job would look on my resume.

As far comparing yourself to the Grant family, I can't imagine why you would do such a thing. We expect that level of blogging from Rahim's momma and the vermin she birthed and was supposed to raise properly. Please Sister.... tell me you ain't from that clan. Eye-wink

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Submitted by NinaLynn on Tue, 05/22/2007 - 6:36am.

This is to "Ilockemup". I like your bumper sticker but my question to you is,why don't you lock more of them up ? ? ? I also agree with another comment made about something being a bit too fishy with the story. Guess we'll never know the real one.

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Submitted by Tug13 on Mon, 05/21/2007 - 2:00pm.

I have friends who live in the East Fayette area. They are telling me they never see Fayetteville police patroling on their streets anymore.

John M. have you or anyone from the citizen asked the Mayor or city Manager about this? Is there a shortage of police officers?

I support all of our police officers one hundred percent. Give them whatever they need to keep crime out of Fayette. My prayers are with them, and I appreciate all of them.


Submitted by wheeljc on Mon, 05/21/2007 - 4:39pm.

Are the mayor and city manager afraid of 'serving and protecting' now that they have opened the flood gates? Is it now time for some new, bold leadership????

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Submitted by Tug13 on Tue, 05/22/2007 - 8:33am.

The Mayor and a couple of city councilmen are up for re-election this year. If you live in Fayetteville, vote them out.
Find a good candidate and support them.

Remember, they were in office when the Pavilion was built.


Submitted by MWF on Tue, 05/22/2007 - 9:01pm.

Before you start trying to vote out the present leadership of Fayetteville, maybe you should give careful consideration to the fact that the city has won many budget and financial reporting awards and is in good shape financially.

If you think having a different mayor and council could have prevented the Pavilion from being built, you are not living in the real world.

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Submitted by Tug13 on Wed, 05/23/2007 - 2:23pm.

Do you work for the city of Fayetteville?
Before the Pavilion was built there was a group that fought it tooth and nail. The mayor and council did nothing, except approving everything the builders asked for. It's the same today.

Look at Fayetteville now. Armed robberies in broad daylight. Crime is rampant. Have you heard a comment from the Mayor, council, or city Manager? I haven't. My friends who live in Fayetteville (all colors) haven't.

I hope the new police chief is getting the support he and his officers need to keep these thugs out of Fayette. We don't know that though. Do you?

I believe it's time for a change in leadership.


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Submitted by Git Real on Tue, 05/22/2007 - 8:41am.

I hear that the NAACP is backing Rahim's mother for city council. Shocked

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Submitted by John Munford on Tue, 05/22/2007 - 11:40am.

Unless she's moved within the city limits, she can't run for Fayetteville City Council.

The family home is on the north end of the county in unincorporated Fayette. At least that's where the shooting occurred, etc...


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Submitted by Git Real on Tue, 05/22/2007 - 1:31pm.

Since when did the rule of law ever become a concern to the like's of Rahim and his momma? Eye-wink

Pssst. I wouldn't expect you to answer that one. Smiling
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Submitted by Tug13 on Tue, 05/22/2007 - 8:54am.

Are you serious?? Please tell me you're kidding.


Submitted by skyspy on Mon, 05/21/2007 - 5:06pm.

I don't think they are afraid to serve and protect. I think patrolling the neighborhoods is boring to most cops. They hate to do it. They like action, that is why they take these jobs to begin with.

I guess it is the same no matter where you go. I just wish they would make more cops available for those of us willing to pay out of our own pockets for security.

It's time to find the next "great place that is safe"

Submitted by dollaradayandfound on Mon, 05/21/2007 - 3:55pm.

Keeping a thug from stopping his car, walking into a store and asking for the money in the register, and then leaving, is as difficult as it is for Bush to stop suicide bombers in all of Iraq with several thousand soldiers.
It can't be done.
Twice as many cops, thrice as many, couldn't stop it.
However you may get them to hire a handful more if you yell loud enough.
Also like wanting many more fire fighters in case my house catches on fire! I only need about 3-4 here for that.

Submitted by ilovepaddys on Mon, 05/21/2007 - 12:16pm.

Is the description of these two punks written by John Munford, or provided by the victim of the crime as described to the police, or the description of the perps as described by the Fayetteville police department?
What?!?!? "Brown skin and very dark skin"...are you kidding ?!?! Sounds to me like these muggers are either black, latin, American Indian, Middle Eastern, Asian or else a white boy with a pretty tan. Call it like it is, folks!!!!

Submitted by IMNSHO on Mon, 05/21/2007 - 1:31pm.

Descriptions were provided by the victim. Yeah, that's as good as it gets, description wise, way too much of the time, unfortunately.

Submitted by skyspy on Mon, 05/21/2007 - 12:12pm.

Ok they were minorities and teen boys ......I'm so shocked!

Do us a favor ...stay in rivercrimedale....they won't call the cops on you there, they expect this kind of thing.

Ok Autrey's needs to add more gun safety classes....let's get Pat working full-time(it's not like it would kill him to work full-time like the rest of us).....we all need a license to carry.

It's time to make gun ownership, for safety and self protection a law in Fayette.

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Submitted by cowtipn on Mon, 05/21/2007 - 3:23pm.

Not sure how well a gun battle would have worked out at a gas station. However, I do agree he should have been carrying. Just the sight of it in its holster would have been enough to stop those morons from trying anything with him or anybody else that night. As for driving himself to the hospital, it's usually a better idea to do it if you can since, (depending on his insurance) you usually have to pay to use an ambulance. That notwithstanding, he should have called the cops immediately.


Submitted by Flydecajon on Mon, 05/21/2007 - 3:35pm.

The man was attacked from behind I do not know how carrying a gun would have prevented that??

Submitted by dollaradayandfound on Mon, 05/21/2007 - 6:52pm.

Wouldn't all robbers distract and then rob people they thought had guns just as these cats did? Of course they would, and then steal the gun too.
Either that or the gun packer would start shooting customers who looked suspicious!

Submitted by skyspy on Mon, 05/21/2007 - 5:12pm.

Maybe it would not have made a difference. It wouldn't have hurt. One thing that needs to change is law enforcement stance on crime.

Dekalb county officers have had to defend their lives 13 times this year. If our guys would use deadly force to defend their lives, criminals on the steet would think twice about coming here. I'm sick of my tax dollar feeding criminals.

Submitted by Flydecajon on Mon, 05/21/2007 - 6:41pm.

I agree with you I said I would not have minded if the guy was packing and doubled tapped both of them....I agree with you on the law enforcement issue too....I just think when you are attacked from behind the way the paper described it just sounds like they had the drop on him that is all..

Submitted by dollaradayandfound on Mon, 05/21/2007 - 4:06pm.

Yeah, and the guy would probably have taken the gun with him! Robbers and suicide bombers adapt to circumstances!

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Submitted by cowtipn on Mon, 05/21/2007 - 3:51pm.

Short of carrying the pistol in his crotch, they would have noticed. Something about never bringing a knife to a gun fight...


Submitted by Flydecajon on Mon, 05/21/2007 - 3:54pm.

But most people who are concealing the perp does not know, I wish the guy was packing and he got the throw down on him I realy do...No problem with me for a double for the Cor. Office..

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Submitted by ilockemup on Mon, 05/21/2007 - 1:11pm.

I agree, Skyspy, mandatory gun ownership should be a county and city ordinance in Fayette, just like Kennysaw.

In the meantime, Fayette County needs a new bumper sticker for our cars:

" FAYETTE COUNTY: WE DON'T CALL THE SHERIFF--- WE CALL THE CORONER".

Then the next step will be to clear all the wussies out of the courthouse bureaucracy.


Submitted by skyspy on Mon, 05/21/2007 - 3:27pm.

That is a good idea. We could also add it to our home security alert signs and no trespassing signs. Put it right next to the NRA sticker.

If that isn't enough warning I don't know what is.

Submitted by IMNSHO on Mon, 05/21/2007 - 11:51am.

So instead of getting the police on the scene immediately, when they *might* have had a chance to catch the bad guys, this man waits until there is absolutely no chance, and instead takes himself to the hospital. Yeah, that was smart thinking. People... if you are a victim of a crime, or see something that you think the police need to know about, or hear a suspicious noise, or a reckless driver... DO NOT WAIT TO CALL THE POLICE!

Submitted by thebeaver on Mon, 05/21/2007 - 11:50am.

"The first suspect was described as having brown skin, about 5’6” with a medium build, wearing a blue T-shirt and blue jean shorts. The second suspect was described as having very dark skin, about 5’5” to 5’6” with a skinny build and a small twist in his hair."

Open your eyes, people. The thug-rapper gangs are here and taking their toll on the lives of the good people of Fayetteville. Arm yourselves and start defending yourselves and our city from these punks.

Submitted by bankermom on Mon, 05/21/2007 - 12:15pm.

"The first suspect was described as having brown skin, about 5’6” with a medium build, wearing a blue T-shirt and blue jean shorts. The second suspect was described as having very dark skin, about 5’5” to 5’6” with a skinny build and a small twist in his hair."

Several years ago when I was a resident of Atlanta...after my shift ended (1 am) at Longhorn Steakhouse, I was leaving out the back door with a co-worker and we were met with a rifle in our faces by a young black man demanding to be taken back inside the resturant.

Moral of the story......I never hesitate to scream my lungs out if anyone gets too close to me. I have also used my mace twice since then...call me paranoid...but don't judge me or my situation until you've looked down the barrel of a rifle.

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Submitted by Newsboy on Tue, 05/22/2007 - 1:57am.

... than meets the eye. Fill in the blanks and consider this:
• The victim knew his assailants.
• In fact, there was no "attempted robbery" at all -- and perhaps not even at the location cited. (A busy gas station on a Sunday aternoon, and there were no witnesses? The victim didn't seek help? HMMM .. highly suspicious!)
• The suspects stabbed the victim from behind. Maybe so, but this was more likely a disagreement among acquaintances, NOT a botched robbery.
• The victim, realizing the "severity" of his injury, drives himself to the hospital for treatment. (Clearly, the injury was not life-threatening.) Once at the hospital, he's questioned about how how sustained said injury. He makes up the story, to protect his acquaintances or perhaps to cover for his role in the incident and make himself more the victim. Emergency room personnel, following procedure, call Fville police. (Anybody familiar with Grady Hospital in ATL knows this happens all the time.)
• No wallet? Simple - In his haste to get to the hospital, he left it at home. Or in his car. Or better yet, he just lied about it. His identity, after all, would trace him back to the perps -- who he likely knows.
• AND FINALLY ... Though the story very correctly does NOT mention the race or physical characteristics of the victim, it's very likely he is of the same race as the alleged robbers. Only an African-American or Hispanic would use words like "brown skin" and "very dark skin" to describe another. White folks would say, "dark-skinned black male," etc.

STAY TUNED ...

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Submitted by Tug13 on Tue, 05/22/2007 - 8:27am.

My son thinks it was probably a drug deal.
There might be more to this story.


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Submitted by Git Real on Tue, 05/22/2007 - 8:40am.

Add News Boy's explanation into the mix and I'd bet you guys nailed it right on the head.

But you have to ask yourself one thing. Should we have a problem with "Thug On Thug Crime" if it doesn't affect us? Perhaps our goal should be to lump them altogether and let them destroy each other. We need to create some "Crime Accepted Zones" and let them do whatever they want to each other and they cross the line and commit a crime then we eliminate them. Heck... Why not? Nothing else is working.

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Submitted by Tug13 on Tue, 05/22/2007 - 8:58am.

Whatever works, to keep them out of Fayette.


Submitted by problemsolver on Mon, 05/28/2007 - 7:12pm.

seeing as the crime in fayetteville has escalated here recently i would like to see alot more patroling and less traffic enforcement. i know that speeding fines make money for the city, and arresting thugs cost the city or county money to proscute. the citizens of fayetteville need to be protected from the criminals, or we might as well change the spelling to fayettedale.

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Submitted by Git Real on Mon, 05/28/2007 - 8:34pm.

How about you solving your writing, spelling and capitalization skills before you start solving the worlds problems. But then again, perhaps you are $'s offspring which would explain a lot. Smiling

I would differ with you a bit on your suggestion that traffic enforcement should be neglected. Traffic stops are how our law enforcement agencies nail scumbags and thugs on more serious offenses. Personally I'd like to see more cops staking out red lights. What a great revenue source to help offset the cost of law enforcement efforts.

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Submitted by bladderq on Mon, 05/28/2007 - 11:29pm.

You wrote:
I would differ with you a bit on your suggestion that traffic enforcement should be neglected. Traffic stops are how our law enforcement agencies nail scumbags and thugs on more serious offenses. Personally I'd like to see more cops staking out red lights. What a great revenue source to help offset the cost of law enforcement efforts.
I would say (& I don't do this lightly):
YOU would have felt very comfortable in Nazi DE.
This country was founded on individual rights and a freedom from the state intruding into MY space.

The sad fact of the matter is that this country has embarked on several mis-guided paths.

I'll give you just my short version.

1st. Not addressing social ill's. AND actually going down a road where 1% now controls 40% of the wealth.

2nd. A more than 5 decades long drug policy that puts more people in jail in the US for non-violent crime than all of Western Europe. That puts a like # of probationers back on the street so stigmitized they can't pssibly find a job.

You are right...WE need to start solving OUR own problems 1st. It won't start One Traffic Stop at a Time.

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Submitted by Paul Perkins on Tue, 05/29/2007 - 5:35pm.

I'll give you just my short version.

1st. Not addressing social ill's. AND actually going down a road where 1% now controls 40% of the wealth.

Two points - One factual, the other is a question to ponder

IRS returns released in 2003 (there may be a more recent stat) show that the top 5% paid 53.25% of all income taxes

If, in theory, we took all the money from the top 1% you mentioned and gave it equally to everyone. Do you believe that most of it would be back with the same people within 5 years? I do because the vast majority of people don't save and invest.

Read The Millionaire Next Door . It can change the way you view things.

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Submitted by Git Real on Tue, 05/29/2007 - 6:09pm.

The book "The Millionaire Next Door" ROCKS! I have made it required reading when I help bail out an employee, friend or family member. It has helped to change the lives of several young people I have mentored. It's time for me to buy another dozen copies of so.

That entire book was the best financial advice I have ever received. The other piece was to "continuously fall in love over and over and over.....with the same woman". If you want to accumulate wealth the Millionaire Next Door will help you understand how it is done. And it's sooooooo eeeaaassssyyyy!

BTW.... I'm "Balance Sheet Affluent". Smiling

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Submitted by Git Real on Tue, 05/29/2007 - 7:57am.

I would say (& I don't do this lightly):
YOU would have felt very comfortable in Nazi DE.

Now, now my narcotics loving cop hating little friend. Actually I think that I would have been very uncomfortable in Nazi Germany. My family experienced the Nazi SS first hand. They not only were persecuted tremendously by Hitler's thugs but, to your delight, were knocked out of the top 1% of wealth holders in the country they lived. When accusing me of being a Nazi please understand my deep hatred for those murderous and evil thugs.

This country was founded on individual rights and a freedom from the state intruding into MY space.

I agree with you whole heartedly on this. I despise the state intruding into MY space too. However, if you are a bad guy and you do bad things, or if you are one who ignores and breaks the laws of civil conduct and order you should expect the state to intrude into your space. I confess that I have been stopped for speeding, traveling on the shoulder (emergency lane) and yes.... even running a red light (which was yellow as yellow could be). I respectfully accepted the reprimands issued each time without hate and animosity toward the issuing authority. Yet, had I been so stupid as to have been driving drunk, allowing my car to be filled with the sweet and pungent odor of dope smoke I should expect to dealt with for those crimes. I could go on but you get the point. Well... maybe you don't. You seem to thing the good ole USA is the only country that actually enforces it's laws.

1st. Not addressing social ill's. AND actually going down a road where 1% now controls 40% of the wealth.

So what do you suggest there Bladder Boy? Wealth redistribution has fail miserably. So what's your next alternative? Some sort of Nazi like solutions?

2nd. A more than 5 decades long drug policy that puts more people in jail in the US for non-violent crime than all of Western Europe. That puts a like # of probationers back on the street so stigmitized they can't pssibly find a job.

Shoplifting and burglaries are non-violent crimes. Should we ignore it? We already know your desire to do away with the enforcement of traffic laws. White collar crimes are non-violent. How about those? These are non-violent crimes.

Drug use IS a violent crime. Have you ever seen some one die violently from an overdose or reaction to illegal drug use? With a little imagination one can come up with dozens of violent acts that are a result of drugs.

You are right...WE need to start solving OUR own problems 1st. It won't start One Traffic Stop at a Time.

So what do you suggest? Your usual solution? Get rid of Bush?

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