Airport group to talk turkey with Chick-fil-A

Thu, 04/26/2007 - 3:13pm
By: John Munford

The Peachtree City Airport Authority has agreed to enter negotiations with Chick-fil-A that could lead to the company relocating its corporate jet fleet to Falcon Field.

Chick-fil-A has indicated it wants to purchase a large hangar building immediately adjacent to Falcon Field, but the deal has been held up in a dispute over the building’s existing airport access agreement.

The building’s current owner, Hunting Aviation, insists that its contract with the airport allows for it to transfer that access agreement, which is needed so aircraft can go back and forth between the two properties. Hunting filed a lawsuit last year on the issue after the airport declined to approve the transfer of the agreement to another company that had expressed interest in purchasing the Hunting facility.

Hunting has since dropped the suit and the authority decided at a special called meeting Friday night to enter negotiations with Chick-fil-A on the access agreement issue.

Although airport officials have been quiet on their issues with the transfer of the agreement, one is likely to do with a provision in the agreement that allows Hunting to sell aviation gas and jet fuel.

It its heyday, Hunting Aviation was a bustling aircraft repair business, but the company eventually mothballed the facility and the airport took over all fuel sales. Those sales now represent a significant amount of income to the airport’s operating budget, which is also buttressed by income from hangar lease payments from on-airport tenants and funds from the city’s hotel-motel tax.

Airport officials previously said one reason for fighting Hunting’s suit and the transfer of the access agreement was an indication from the Federal Aviation Administration. The FAA reportedly has told Falcon Field officials to be careful that it doesn’t give a better “deal” to off-airport customers than it offers to on-airport customers.

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Submitted by cowtipn on Fri, 04/27/2007 - 9:14am.

The FAA reportedly has told Falcon Field officials to be careful that it doesn’t give a better “deal” to off-airport customers than it offers to on-airport customers.

Funny, I always thought competition was healthy.


Submitted by swmbo on Sat, 04/28/2007 - 5:52pm.

It is the hallmark of good stewardship of public assets and funds. Giving good deals (in the form of contracts) to "nice guys" and friends is what landed Abramoff and Duke Cunningham in trouble.

. . . and that isn't a criticism of the Cathys . . . but the law says what it says so that people can't be accused of doing what they should not do.

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Submitted by dollaradayandfound on Sat, 04/28/2007 - 6:13pm.

I don't know for sure what you meant swmbo, but it is so easy to be unfair in the government, and particularily so in business, when one lets religion of a particular ilk, and that only, make decisions for you.

Submitted by swmbo on Sat, 04/28/2007 - 6:57pm.

My post was directed to the sentiments of some on the blogs that "nice guys" should be given a break -- even in the lease price of publicly-owned land. Now, in private industry, giving nice guys a break is appropriate because one assumes that the shareholders have the same feelings about the "nice guy" in question. But the public commons -- the spaces of which we, the taxpaying public, are shareholders -- well . . . they are a different matter.

Although most of us here think Mr. Cathy is a nice guy, clearly, some of us think he's nicer than others. And the fact that the public owners (that's us) of the public commons (that's the airport) may differ on who is -- and who isn't -- a nice guy, is what prevents public servants from giving "nice guys" a break. (Some people think it's unfair but it's really leveling the playing field for everyone involved.)

Simply put, because we may disagree on who deserves a break, public officials are limited in their discretion to getting the best value for the best price. So, irrespective of his religious beliefs and charitable works, Mr. Cathy cannot be extended any break that any other guy - nice or not - would get for leasing that public space.

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Submitted by dollaradayandfound on Sat, 04/28/2007 - 7:59pm.

I wasn't even talking about the PTC airport chicken and hangar lease. Don't know much about it, really, except it is stupid about the in the fence, out of the fence crap.
I don't even know how religious Mr. Cathy is! My thoughts have to do with numerous supposed highly religious, very rich, people in the USA, hire thugs, and devious employees to make them more. They have plasusible deniability in case something is discovered. Check the salaries of the executives at Chic-fil-A. The net worth of scores of preachers, The land buyers for these cats, etc.
It is all done under the cloak of magnificant gestures and speeches.
Even high falutin' preachers operate that way any more, they think it is justified---the end justifies the means. (Abu Ghraib?)

Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Thu, 04/26/2007 - 7:32pm.

The Cathy's are good folks.

Submitted by dollaradayandfound on Fri, 04/27/2007 - 9:33am.

Since the family rakes in billions per year one would think they could have increased their college scholarships a bit from the $1,000 they issue occasionally.

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Submitted by Mixer on Fri, 04/27/2007 - 2:52pm.

No offense dollar - but how much is your scholarship?

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Submitted by dollaradayandfound on Sat, 04/28/2007 - 6:18pm.

I don't know what you are saying but I assume it is that I should provide scholarships in amounts like the Cathys'.
Isn't that like saying that I should rebuild New Orleans and take the government off the hook?
I don't ask people to buy my chicken, but I have sent three kids and helping a grandson through Universities. Three more to go.

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Submitted by hutch866 on Fri, 04/27/2007 - 2:56pm.

maybe just a little chicken envy

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Submitted by Denise Conner on Fri, 04/27/2007 - 10:09am.

Or are your comments just idle speculation?

Thanks!


Submitted by dollaradayandfound on Fri, 04/27/2007 - 11:32am.

I don't understand. The Cathys' own Chic-fil-A lock stock and barrell. Their profits are published.
Their scholarships are also published. Never saw one over $1,000, which won't buy one years books.
I'm afraid they are like Oprah, they are very nice people but hire commandoes to run things!

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Submitted by AF A-10 on Sat, 04/28/2007 - 10:23am.

Dollar, the Cathy family is obligated to give a safe working environment and the minimum wage required by law to their employees. What do the Cathy's competition do? Just that; the minimum required by law.
The Cathy family makes the non-business driven decision to give the competition an extra day of profits (Sunday.) The Cathy family has a hard time saying no to scout fundraisers, sports teams, yearbooks, charities, etc. The Cathy's business even gives their employees tools to one day step away from the cash register and grill. There is no way on God's green Earth that I will even try to find a way to be critical of that. I hope that the competition takes notice (but not of the closed Sunday thing; sometimes I'm hungry on Sunday and just don't want to cook my own chicken).

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Submitted by Gator on Sat, 04/28/2007 - 8:26am.

Chic-fil-A has two dormitories full of students who receive thousands of dollars worth of scholarships at Berry College on the Mountain Campus through the WinShape Foundation. Most of the awards are worth $8,000. You might try learning about it at http://www.winshape.org/college/
The Cathy's are wonderful people who have made an extraordinary contibution toward improving the lives of young people.

Submitted by dollaradayandfound on Sat, 04/28/2007 - 12:00pm.

I am aware of Berry College and WinShape.
It is a religious institution (private) and only those certifying themselves to be Christians are allowed, and are watched to see what they say and do during the years. The kids all work hard at jobs provided to help pay their way.
If one can stand to work at the chicken butcheries for four years, you will be goven a chance to sign up for scholarships, and I suppose continue working raising chickens, etc.
OK by me but not for me, and most others.

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Submitted by hutch866 on Sat, 04/28/2007 - 12:11pm.

I looked them up , according to their web site, mandatory religous adherence was abandoned decades ago, while they offer religous courses they also offer many many other degrees, so dollar once again you're full of it, and yourself.

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Submitted by dollaradayandfound on Sat, 04/28/2007 - 1:21pm.

What I said is coming back due to the Cathys'. It is a religious,
"military" school, They don't work well. In less than 3 years after graduation, with a liberal arts degree, they will still be making $25,000 per year, ticked off, and abandon the structured life.
Some propaganda is better than others, it fools more people. Have you ever cut up chicken at a Chic-Fil-A for four years?
Did you expect the Berry people to tell you that Cathy saved their University, but at a price? Again, ok, but nothing to brag to those who can't go, or don't want into such things.

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Submitted by Enigma on Sat, 04/28/2007 - 9:58am.

Well said. I have no interest in chic-fil-a; however, I know that they do more for their employees (including do not allow them to work Sunday) than any fast food company in America.

They have always had a great benefit package and if you ever visit their headquarters you would see that that people come first.

Go to the drive through "it's a pleasure to serve you sir" and then go to McDonalds – any scholarships aside - there is no comparison.

Back to kids - they are HUGE contributors to public schools locally and are always on the top of the list for 'Partners in Education'.

They also offer scholarships to any student who is employed with them through their 4 year high school career.

It is probably the only time I have ever agreed with Jimmy Carter but I agree when "President Jimmy Carter has called Truitt Cathy “one of the most remarkable success stories of our time.”


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Submitted by Git Real on Sat, 04/28/2007 - 1:51pm.

First of all NOBODY posting on Truitt has come close to truly sizing up the contributions he has made in our community and around the world. Funding orphanages that would otherwise never have existed is one to mention. I'd like to know the number of times this man has lifted folks out of some sort of dire straits. There is no doubt in my mind that the list of anonymous contributions he's made over the years rivals those of which are known.

Truett Cathy is for real. Can any of us even start to scratch the surface in matching the contributions of time, money and investments in young people that this man made? I'm truly jealous of him. Especially when thinking of how many lives this man has impacted on an individual basis.

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Submitted by cowtipn on Fri, 04/27/2007 - 2:17pm.

McDonald's makes 10 times what Chick-fil-A makes and they only see fit to hand out 1 $1,000 scholarship per state. All Chick-fil-A requires is a certain number of hours worked. In light of all the other major restaurant companies, Chick-fil-A is by far the most generous. Quit your whining!


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Submitted by Denise Conner on Fri, 04/27/2007 - 6:50pm.

So much more helpful than emotionalism & blinding hatred and envy Smiling


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