Why are the County and the Sheriff applying a law enforcement solution to a problem that is social in nature?

Answer: The "parent(s)" broke the law, and the law enforcement officers were there with "arrest warrants" because the adults "were charged with one felony count of cruelty to children and one misdemeanor count of maintaining a disorderly house."

Re-read the article before you make comments next time.

Murder and pedophilia are "social in nature" also. Do you propose that there be no penalty for these crimes?

Excoriating churches -- again! You make similar assertions in your post
"Christianists, Reaganists and the like."

How do you know what churches have or have not done for these people? Perhaps your criticism of materialism is somewhat valid (but inappropriate in this context), but "new facilities" does not mean that they turn away those who ask for help. I would guess that these 2 never asked for help, or they used the help that they received for themselves instead of the children. I know of this happening all too often.

Fayette Samaritans, an all-volunteer Christian outreach ministry supported by churches and others, provides food from their food pantry, clothing, and financial assistance for selected emergency needs.

The Fayette CARE Clinic is another charity organization (with Christians involved) that might have helped if asked.

I know Christians who are foster parents and who have adopted children from circumstances such as this one.

DragNet, just how much do you give to charity? Did you help these people? Do you help anyone? No answer required. Just want you to think and think again -- it might take you 3 or more times to see what others see so clearly.

It doesn't take a church or "social services" to raise a child; it takes common sense and decency on the part of the parents. Soap and water don't cost much. I wonder if there were cigarettes, beer, drugs, etc. that the adults were paying for instead of food for the children. That's often the case.

I notice that the adults are not identified as the parent(s) and are probably not married. Not a good thing for children.

Why don't you lambaste the criminals instead of the people who help others every day? "SHAME" on you!

BTW, "lascivious" means given to or expressing lust; lecherous -- hardly appropriate when describing a meal.

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Out! Out! You demons of stupidity!

You sound just like your "sister" Ann Coulter. The level of xenophobia overflowing from your diatribes is impressive. I'd pray that you or one of your kids sometime find themselves poor, immigrant and/or and in need. I believe you need a lesson on poverty so you can learn to appreciate other people's struggles.

Nothing that you write here in your judgemental thinking is really helpful or conducive to motivate people to help this family. It only shows what your soul is made of...emptiness. Shame on you on being semi-human.

You know that in a few days, Indoc will contemplate the ramifications of calling you "semi-human," reflect on how the comment actually makes him/her appear, and then come crawling back to you with contrition, just as I did. You know it's coming Denise.

Cheers Bella,

Kevin "Hack" King

Unrestrained hatred can make one "go off the deep end"

-- become "unglued"

-- "wacky"

-- unbalanced

-- non compos mentis for all defense attorneys and Loony Leftists reading here (present company excluded, of course)!

"Moronic," "xenophobi[c]," "diatribe" = bitter & abusive, "judgemental" [sic], "what your soul is made of...emptiness," "semi-human"

And Indocumentado thinks that I "need a lesson" in compassion?

In order to feel contrite one must be sensitive to his conscience.

"contemplate the ramifications of" -- One would have to consider carefully and at length -- meditate on or ponder one's actions and the consequences of them before true contrition.

Good advice for us all

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Whom men fear they hate, and whom they hate, they wish dead.

Latin: Quem metuont oderunt, quem quisque odit periisse expetit.

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If you hate a person, you hate something in him that is part of yourself. What isn't part of ourselves doesn't disturb us.

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Passionate hatred can give meaning and purpose to an empty life.

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Disclaimer: I have NOT researched the accuracy of these quotations. Since this blog is not my doctoral dissertation, I am not ethically required to ascertain the source of every quotation. I'm not getting any financial incentive either.

* Attention Basmati a.k.a. MAV *

Endometriosis, "your diatribes is"? Ouch! You are 'killing' the English language, (our native language).

Okay Idofencejumping, let's try this slowly:

You sound just like your "sister" Ann Coulter. (That’s a compliment.)

The level of xenophobia overflowing from your diatribes is impressive. (diatribe – singular – would be more appropriate.)

I'd pray that you or one of your kids sometime find themselves poor, immigrant and/or and in need. (You would pray or you will pray?) (and/or and - what is that all about?)

I believe you need a lesson on poverty so you can learn to appreciate other people's struggles. (What if their struggles aren’t’ related to poverty?)

Nothing that you write here in your judgemental (sic) thinking is really helpful or conducive to motivate people to help this family. (Is it now Denise, an American woman’s responsibility for motivating these slackers? We don’t boss or women around here Incardontyouknow, you may want to try another approach if you want Denise to help.)

It only shows what your soul is made of...emptiness. (We call that an oxymoron in the English language.)

Shame on you on being semi-human. (We call this a sentence fragment. But my real question is what is a semi-human?)

If you are going to call someone a moron, do it without looking like an idiot.

Si usted desea mirar el acto elegante agradable y parar el ser un moron.

"Indocumentado is incommunicado." is equal to "$ Logic -- Guess You Get What You Pay For" (if I remember it correctly) :)

You make a lot of people laugh; so keep up the good work.

Yes, I'll take the comparison to Ann Coulter as a compliment. Now if I could just get paid what she does!

"Semi-human" -- Wonder if Indocumentado is for abortion, too?

"I'd pray that you or one of your kids sometime find themselves poor" -- How kind! Praying for another's misery! Typical Leftist hatred.

"I believe you need a lesson on poverty" -- Guess Indocumentado is just the one to teach me. How? By confiscating more tax dollars to "give" to the poor.

I've seen poverty up close & know that socialism isn't the solution. The welfare mentality just fosters more or the same. Wasn't that why Clinton came up with the idea of welfare reform?

"Indocumentado" = No Legal Papers = Undocumented Guest Worker = Illegal Alien?

Guess that makes me xenophobic (favorite name-calling tactic of "guest worker" promoters)

At least "Indocumentado" is impressed by me. What more can I ask.

You have the fog over your head!
You judge other groups as a whole (such as : "often the case, and probably not married"---married how?).
Do you really believe that a Mexican OR Black family would parade up to a primped up white group such as you mention and ask for help?
First thing that would happen is a hundred questions as to legality and a calling of the sheriff and maybe the INS.
You live in a foreign world from these people.

"Mexican OR Black family" -- All humans, regardless of skin color, receive help from these organizations.

Have you ever been by to see what they do and the people they help?

"primped up" ???

"First thing that would happen is a hundred questions as to legality and a calling of the sheriff and maybe the INS."

Where's the proof for that statement?

INS wouldn't do anything anyway!

Fear of INS doesn't stop them from going to emergency rooms and collecting other benefits meant for American citizens.

What you call judging, I call scientific studies about the needs of children. Try reading them sometimes!

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Out! Out! You demons of stupidity!

Yes, I have been there and the crowd is much different than at the Salvation Army .
Do you volunteer there often?
Primped? I assume you know what primping is. It is decorated so lavishly that poor people would be afraid to ask.
Proof of statement: Did you see the article about the sheriff arresting a whole family for being dirty and not having enough food? He didn't send the "church" there!
You are correct about the INS. Sorry, sorry outfit, almost as bad as DFACS and primped up church workers.
Your criticism for those poor people using OUR emergency rooms must, I assume, include the other 30 million blacks and whites who must do the same thing?

You don't get away from the scientific reports much do you? They are about as accurate as were Bush's intelligence reports.
Everybody in this world is never going to meet your standards, nor should they.

What do you have against the churches dollar? Now I'm about as religious as the tree in my front yard, but my wife was briught up in the church and her father is a retired pastor and I have seen her church help multitudes of people, and here's one you'll like $, even sponsering some West Africans to become citizens. These people don't primp, maybe you can stop by their church, the First Presbyterian Church of Jonesboro, I'm sure you would be welcome.

I yam what I yam...Popeye

Well, if you don't go there why should I?
Whenever they help another multitude of Mexicans or blacks, let me know, I'll come help with the multitudes!

you know, you have got to be the most miserable s.o.b. on this site. I extended that invitation in good faith, so here another invitation BITE ME. I should have listened to enigma, talking to you is like slamming my hand in a door.

I yam what I yam...Popeye

Yep, some old bear indeed. Uh, do you believe me now?

Why you can’t believe banmani

Did it sound like there was a question there? Sounded pretty definite I thought.

I yam what I yam...Popeye

The boy ain't right. Sometimes he makes a little bit of sense but if you try to clarify it for him - he insults you for your effort.

Wierd, huh? he must have been in the Army Air Force guys don't act like that.

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When questioning my birth and attitude as you do. there must be a good reason.
Try putting your head in the door first!

If you'll look at my post you won't find one question mark in it, therefore I wasn't questioning you're birth or attitudeI was stating a fact.

I yam what I yam...Popeye

If I were to state that you apparently are ignorant wouldn't that be questioning your intelligence?
You don't even make logical sense!
Why do some churches constantly worry about someone after them? Especially by what they call liberals?
You don't need to worry about someone after you, do you? Just turn the other cheek and all will be well.
I'm now convinced there is nothing that I can further do to pound reason into your mind.

As I told you earlier I'm as religious as a rock, so I don't turn either cheek, I punch back. I'm sure not much of anything makes sense to you and before you can dispense reason you have to have some, and judging by your blogs you don't have any to spare.

I yam what I yam...Popeye

What the heck does this mean:

"Why do some churches constantly worry about someone after them? Especially by what they call liberals?"

Of course, it's plain as day to me. But he wants you to clarify for him.

"Christians are under attack." I have heard or read that a lot lately. Always written or said by a "conservative."
So what. if they are? Do you expect them to kill you?
Just turn the other cheek!
I have never worried about attacks from liberals. Maybe a little about some Muslims, right now.

The parents were arrested until they can sort things out and I agree that some of the 'churches' should help them out. As for the kids: "The three children were taken into protective custody by the Fayette County Department of Family and Children Services" (DFACS). They will need prayers, help, and the two parents to step up!

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Why you can’t believe banmani

"Sort things out," meaning?
Are you being mean when you say "some of the churches should help them out?"
Who, Saint Francis of Assisi? Maybe the AME church on Sweet Auburn?
DFACS. Now there is an answer in this area, isn't it?
I sure hope Hernandez and Ysenia "step up."
So, now the sheriff arrests poor, dirty, peons who aren't cleaning up their kids? Can you imagine that happening in, say, Smokerise in PTC, when parents are gone and a pot/alcohol party is in progress by the kids?

Just because you're poor doesn't mean you have to be dirty. Dirty is a choice.

I yam what I yam...Popeye

I grew up on a farm. We were not rich in money, but rich where it counted. There is no excuse for being dirty.

This depends upon circumstances, doesn't it? The African tribes who smear cow dung in their hair to keep the flies off them know what they are doing, I think.
Water is carried for miles to drink, but trying to bathe with no water and no tub makes it difficult.
Some of us are raised with a mental problem about "looking" clean, but may be "dirty" in other ways.
We pretend that scrubbing up all the time is religious. and to smell is not religious. Not really so, I'll just bet you the 12 Apostles hardly never bathed!

I'm pretty sure these people weren't from or in Africa and the dung they were talking about wasn't from cows and what does Africa have to do with it anyway, we're talking about here in Fayette. Like I said earlier, if it don't embarrass you to say dumb things, it don't embarrass me to call you on it.

I yam what I yam...Popeye

I'm not trying to be cute. Of course it is more mannerly to bathe often in order not to offend those who consider that a way to judge people entirely.
The Masai tribe of east Africa do mix cow dung and red ochre to apply to their long braids in order to keep the flies from blowing their hair and biting them.
I don't judge them as being bad people for that.

You don't seem to realize, you're the only one talking about Africa, the rest of us are talking about here in Fayette. I don't judge the Africans at all.

I yam what I yam...Popeye

I used to fold my underware in six inch squares and all my clothes were flush and grounded. My soap dish was spotless and my bed and wool blanket was lint free. I also made about $700 a month at the time. I had spit-shined shoes and spotless living quarters and it cost virtually nothing. Elbow grease is free.

Of course, if this guy was a Delta pilot(glorified bus drivers)and was projected to make an average annual salary of $169,393, they could have another hispanic family clean their home while the little wife wadlled out to play tennis, they spouted liberal politics and played weekend warrior in the reserves. You just have to love PTC.

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Why you can’t believe banmani

When I was in my last year as an E-5 I made $660 a month, I would have had to reup to make $700. Back in the Mid 80's I did some service work Dekalb County's section 8 apartments and the old women who could barely move about had spotless apartments while the young people's were pig sty's . All in the way you're brought up I guess.

I yam what I yam...Popeye

The moral of the story is if you can't afford clean housing for yourself, don't have kids.

These people made a choice to have kids they couldn't afford.....it was a poor choice. Nobody else is responsible for their poor choices.

Those kids deserve a fresh start and a good life, with good people.

No kids if you don't expect to have money, huh?
Don't think the Pope thinks that, do you?
Should all of Arica suddenly cut off births?
What are "good people" that you refer to?

First of all "good people" are people who can support themselves and are law-abiding citizns. "Good people" can afford kids, and only have the number that they can afford to care for. "Good people" spend time with their kids.

Yes africa has a major birthcontrol problem, and they have no food. So yes, since they live in a place where food is largely scarce, and so is clean water, they should stop breeding.

The pope is an idiot when it comes to birthcontrol, so I wouldn't listen to anything he has to say.

I think they were arrested for allowing the "children to live in an unsanitary environment in which they were malnourished",starving if you will.

The family did "not appear to have a working bathroom".

"There was relatively little food in the home’s pantry and refrigerator",

"... there were pillows and blankets on the floor of the living room because that’s where the children slept at night".

"A toilet at the front of the house was inoperable and the second was flushed by using a plunger, the deputy discovered. The deputy spotted fecal material in the second toilet",

"There was no running hot water to the residence either".

"McCastle described the living conditions in the trailer as “unlivable.”

I agree it would be nice to see a church or the community help this family; however, these children needed relief.

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Why you can’t believe banmani

Two people in their 30s who can't provide even the most basic needs for their kids in this country should not be allowed to keep them. In cases of abuse, as this appears to be, they should be in jail.

Maximus

Someone will come up with a reason not to prosecute these "parents" and once again, children will be victimized twice. Once by negligent parents and once by the "system."

And somewhere we're putting someone in jail for selling or smoking pot. I'll bet these children appreciate that.

Yes, I'm afraid that you're probably right that the "parents" will face no consequences for their behavior. It happened recently here in PTC when Ballard could find no charges to bring against the "parents."

But this time (maybe because of the public disgust about prior laxness), at least an arrest warrant was issued.

The difference may be malnourishment. Doubt the "parents" were malnourished!

Sadly, children are disposable in most societies, and there are few who will fight for their rights. They can't vote; so they don't matter. Then some will use "for the children" merely as a tool to gain control over others' lives and empower government.

Look at how "sorry" people feel for the mothers who drown their own children. They fabricate all kinds of excuses in an effort to justify their cold-hearted actions.

Hopefully, these children will be put into good foster homes, but some (or maybe even closer to a lot?) don't treat the children much better than they were treated at home.

And hopefully, the "parents" will heed the wake-up call and learn to be good parents so that they can get the children back (if that's what they want). I know that the "system" (usually) does try to give every benefit of the doubt to the "parents" & will try to re-unite the kids with them. But then the kids are in "limbo" until the "parents" get their act together. The children can be put into foster care; then put back with the "parents"; put back into foster care (different home likely); back with the "parents," etc. Any way you look at it, the children come out the losers.

I feel sympathy for these children -- the neglect that they've experienced and the fear that they likely feel being separated from their "parents." Children love them, no matter what they've done, usually. Children can be scarred for life because of the self-centeredness of adults.

I do know of several children who now have stable, loving families, and I only wish this for these children.

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