Although most army veterans will vote for the Democratic ticket in the 2008 election, how is the above post related to anything concerning the topic of this blog?
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Changing your name will not make a difference unless you change your meanness.

There were a lot of harsh words posted on here yesterday. Think about it, where did it start?

Dear basmati, now known as 'most army veterans', (a little presumptuous isn't it?)

I too would change my name and hide behind a ‘Good Conduct Medal’ if I were responsible for singing the praises of the Harry Reid and taking credit for his statement even before he made it. I am not sure how many people know how easy it is to get that particular medal – but I digress.

It’s nice to see you have dropped your KKK promotion and your obsessive taunting of ArmyMajorRetired. I always thought making light of a group that killed minorities for a ‘laugh’ was almost as crass as your persistent taunting of a real lifelong soldier who actually spent more than three years on an ‘experiment’ serving his country.

Regardless, welcome to the boards. I hope that the 'new' basmati can keep the personal insults out of the mix otherwise; we are just back to where you drug us with the last moniker.

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Most army veterans will salute Harry Reid for voicing the concerns that more than 60 percent of the American public already knows: The war in Iraq is unwinnable.

Most army veterans also will note that many people who have not earned the right to wear the Good Conduct Medal will frequently exhibit signs of jealousy and/or envy towards those who have earned that right.
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Submitted by most army veterans on Fri, 04/20/2007 - 2:25pm.
This says it best:
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I wrote this months ago, Harry Reid just said it today. Either way, it's what the overwhelming majority of Americans already know in their hearts - George Bush lost the war in Iraq a long time ago. And it does no one any favors - neither our troops, their families, nor any other American who cares about the future of our country - to pretend otherwise. The far-right extremists currently in control of the Republican party don't care about doing the right thing, and certainly don't care about our troops - as we witnessed with the body armor debacle when the war started, and now the Walter Reed catastrophe. They care about saving their own behinds. This is their war, George Bush's war. And they lost this war through their utter mismanagement. Rather than admit that truth, and accept the blame and responsibility for their own mistakes, and bring our troops home, they'd rather continue lying to the American people and lying to our troops as they send tens of thousands more of them into an out of control civil war. The extremists running the Republican party would rather risk the lives of American soldiers for a cause they already know is lost, than accept responsibility for a gross mistake of their own making. Their ego is more important than the life of an American service member.
Now who hates the troops?
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Wow, good work “basmati”, I mean “banmani”, I mean “most army veterans”

If we lost, who won banmani??

If we lost the war in Iraq, who won?

In Iraq, nobody won. The American invasion had the net effect of trading one set of horrors (Saddam's relentless persecution of his political opponents) for another (the anarchy of civil war). I won't make a value judgement as to which set of horrors was "better".

In the overall scheme of things, though, Osama Bin Laden and Al-Queda are the clear victors. Al-Queda had one single goal when it was formed: to get America military forces OUT of Saudi Arabia. Judged against that criteria, their mission was a huge success. America spent most of the past decade or two building up the enormous Prince Sultan military base inside Saudi Arabia, which many Saudis deeply resented. (Corollary: how would Americans feel if Iranians established a large military base in, say, Oklahoma?)

Bin Laden was able to leverage his tiny Al-Queda outfit to essentially direct the activities of the extremist Wahabbi cult and provoked America into war. America has now abandoned the multi-billion dollar base in Saudi Arabia, and is attempting to establish long-term staging areas in conquered Iraq. Thus, Bin Laden achieved his primary goal in life and is the clear, albeit disgusting, "winner" in this situation.
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First you say "In Iraq, nobody won." Then you say "In the overall scheme of things, though, Osama Bin Laden and Al-Queda (sic) are the clear victors."

So, you want us to pull it now, even though we are not even finished with this phase of the war, while you claim victory for Al Qaeda and the Democrats in congress - wow - that speaks volumes about you and the other Democrats.

Why the Surge is Working

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Well banmani:

Do "you want us to pull it now, even though we are not even finished with this phase of the war, while you claim victory for Al Qaeda and the Democrats in congress?

banmani changes his name in shame - Click Here for the cut and paste queens blog of the week

Interesting link you have about "Why the surge is working".

Meanwhile, back on planet Earth, a whopping TWELVE PERCENT of Americans agree with the George W. Bush / Joe Lieberman / Mixers of the world that the surge is making things better in Iraq.

Americans siding with Dems against Bush

I suspect we'll see more shrill oratory from the dwindling "Peace is Defeat" crowd in the days ahead.

BTW...I wish America WOULD re-focus and go after Bin Laden again. Too bad the President no longer feels Bin Laden is a priority.
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Maybe you should consider WHY people are not more optimistic banmani.

The General running the war – WAS and said so yesterday. However, Nancy Pelosi was not going to attend until her ‘boy Friday’ told her it would be political suicide for the National Democratic Party to show her hand.

Maybe your massive negative press campaign and lack of support combined with the obvious desire by Democrats to lose this war (to further their own political cause) is why so many feel like a loss is now inevitable.

After all, the Democrat Senate Majority leader has already told the troops and the nation that the war WAS lost - that's past tense banmani.

You must be very proud of Harry's subversion. You are so much alike – except of course he is American and has a job.

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"Stabbed in the back!" been the preferred method of choice of the American right wing when seeking to avoid responsibility for its blunders. I suspect we'll see more of that in the weeks and months ahead as this bone-grinding war of attrition comes to the inevitable conclusion.

George W. Bush chose to wage a voluntary war with 130,000 troops instead of the 300,000 troops recommended by his military advisors. It was a daring, reckless and ultimately unsuccessful gamble.

History will not be kind to the current White House occupant.

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Here's a simple question even YOU might answer:

How many soldiers would you have sent to Iraq?

banmani changes his name in shame - Click Here for the cut and paste queens blog of the week

General Zinni recommended 300,000 occupation troops. As a four star general, I'd defer to his opinion.

But then, anyone can second-guess in hindsight. Who knows, maybe 300K wouldn't have been enough?

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I am very glad to see that you want to follow the advice of Generals. Here is the advice of the General in charge of the War in Iraq that Harry and you say was "Lost" but is still being fought.

You might be glad to know that Nancy Pelosi didn't bother to go the the hearing on Iraq that General Petraeus spoke at.

Click Here

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That’s a very interesting dichotomy of strategies.

So, you supported sending the troops to war, you just want more of them, and now you are ready to quit?

I don't consider it a dichotomy at all, you either go in big or you go home, a.k.a. "The Powell Doctrine".

There's somewhat of a parallel between Iraq and that move "300". 300 of the best trained troops in the history of the world to that time (Sparta) fought off an overwhelming number of lesser-trained troops from Persia but eventually succumbed to the numerical advantage of the enemy...at the end of the movie you see the fierce joy of the Spartan nation when it makes up its mind to send it's entire massive 10,000+ force against it's enemy.

(It's not a perfect analogy, King Leonides led his troops from the front and President Bush deserted the Air National Guard once he was assured that he couldn't be sent to Vietnam...but I digress).

My point is, don't do things piecemeal. You want to have a war, send in everything you've got. If your generals say they need 300,000 troops, then you better have a very good reason to go against sound military advice. Bush tried to do things by skimping on the troop levels, and the result was this quagmire we are currently stuck in.

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Contradiction? You mean like this one:

Question to basmati (MAV) and his answers-

21. Did you ask Cal to censor ArmyMajorRetired?

*I ASKED Cal TO REMOVE TWO (*Alleged) libelous COMMENTS* that ArmyMAJRetired made about me, and Cal did.

22. Do you support censorship?

*No*

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Nope, no contradiction at all. The Major libeled me, and Cal agreed.
The offending posts were removed.

Free speech does not include a license to libel, a fact your little buddy the Major learned.
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"The Major libeled me", really?

Please explain to me how an anonymous blogger can be libeled?

Is "most army veterans" or "rice guy" your real name? Is that what's printed on your drivers license, voter registration?

You've consistently looked for a fight since you've been here.

There are several of us that showed support for the retiredArmyGuy. Has anyone showed support for you?

The only one who has EVER supported her is Hack and his free pass (and his man card) has now been revoked.

WASHINGTON -- A flock of small jets took flight from Washington Thursday, each carrying a Democratic presidential candidate to South Carolina for the first debate of the political season. What's your carbon footprint?

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and on to the field, we can finally play ball. As long as you sit in comfort blogging anonymously as "Mixer" while lobbing petty insults my direction, do not think that you can, for one second, take anything at all away from me. I choose to be an open book and share with all of you my name, my life experiences, and my careers. You are able to make petty comments about my airline gig, my former A-10 experiences, and my life as a Reservist because I CHOSE to be a REAL person on these pages. I could just as easily have chosen to be a brave, anonymous soul, free to formulate disjointed arguments that lead in circles. But I have chosen to not hide in the shadows. I do not criticize anyone who does find comfort in anonymity, but if you, Mr. or Mrs. Mixer, think you have the power to take anything from me, you are a dillusional being. When you wish to revisit meaningful blogging, I'll be here.

Kevin "Hack" King

The Hack’s man card was revoked? I kind of like the Hack sometimes, but I was afraid something like this was going to happen.

Maximus

We have way, way too much in common to be political opposition.

Kevin "Hack" King

The internet (as well as the multitude of books waiting to be read & re-read) is the cause of my need for caffeine. There's always one more interesting story just a click away!

Someone sent this to me about Rosie's leaving The View.

Of course, going to YouTube gets me to watching other clips of The View. Rosie's imitation of Trump's hair is funny.

Here's Michelle Malkin's Ching-Chong Rosie.

Rosie does manage to get the attention that she so desperately craves.

You are my new little buddy. You are predictable and easy to manipulate. Makes for a good boredom breaker

Do you like my medal? Is it too much? Does it make me look fat?

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It's nice to see you saw '300'. I bet you get a lot of your ideas from Hollywood. Didn't they fight to the last man in that movie?

So, will you now support sending 300K? But Clinton cut over 300,000 troops- do you think we have enough to do that?

I'm glad you like the Republican Retired General Colin Powell.

I would think that going nuclear would be REALLY big - and you want to go big- so will you support nuking Iran, and if need be Iraq, after we employ the Reid/Pelosi Doctrine of cut the numbers and run away?

Will you now join in with Democrats and Republicans alike in condemning Harry Reid's statement?

I’m glad we agree that we need a bigger buildup and not a withdrawal.

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Enigma wanted to know who won if we lost. Osama Bin Laden.
Once Saddam was gone Iraq made an excellent base for his expansion.
We had him trapped in Afghanistan and Saddam wouldn't have let his cohorts into Iraq.
We could have easily destroyed Saddam in one to two more years with inspection, no-fly, and pressure.
We chose bravado!

I thought it came with the uniform. Most don't even wear the ribbon. Of course, had you been an actual vet and not a fake, you would have known that.

Maybe next week you can cut and paste the Legion of Honor Medal or Bronze Star! Wow, you would REALLY be able to speak for every army vet then!

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Enlisted only as officers were supposed to have good conduct, that whole officer and gentleman thing.

Enlisted without an Article 15 or not getting the clap would get it.

MAV/banman would lose on both counts!

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As a former enlisted man, I am somewhat offended by that remark.Officers were not the only ones with self restraint and a sense of whats right or wrong and some of us could even think for ourselves.

I yam what I yam...Popeye

I worked with great enlisted and NCOs in my career. I also chaptered/discharged my share of slackers and malingerers. Bas comes off as a poop house lawyer and I guess he had his share of article 15's/Captains mast.

Not directed to real men, just rice boy.

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when you say something like that you should be a little more specific, maybe I'm a little thin skinned but I met a lot of officers who had the you know what don't stink attitude. Next time don't generalize.{ is that even a word?}

I yam what I yam...Popeye

Some of know that the enlisted man is the heart and soul of the military Hutch.

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I find it amusing that you who takes Garlock to task for Waving his medals around, posts one as your avatar.I too have that medal, don't mean much, just I didn't get caught. You never answered my question yesterday about Terry's column where was it he waved his medals I missed that and maybe you could answer mixer's questions, just a thought.

I yam what I yam...Popeye

Although pretty much every DD214 printed has the GCM (Ribbon) printed on it already I think.

Of course, those who are expunged just claim to have it- right banmani?
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Hey- by the way - Stock Market is at an All Time High (over 13k)! I love it!

Means nothing except what a terrible mistake the current administration made there. Then even worse, had such poor judgement as to be able to predict NOTHING about how it might go and embarrass us. We though all it would take was bombing.
If Dick Cheney and Bush had served in battle or served at all, they might have known better, since they don't listen to experts.
Several of our heroes on here will make fun of your good conduct medal but I have one of those also, and I am glad I was able to stay out of trouble.
I have known bullies before who would rather die (or someone else die, if possible) rather than admit a mistake and call it off.

Dollar, most army veterans will admit to being unaware that you were a veteran as well. Thank you for your service to your country and wear your Good Conduct Medal PROUDLY!

Most army veterans will also agree with your characterization about those who would put others in harms way.
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"most army veterans will vote for the Democratic ticket in the 2008 election"

Are you now a psychic or just your average fortune-teller?

I just love reading your mind!

Are you now a "crone" or a soothsayer?

Gee basmati - what do any of your personal attacks have to do with the topic?

Are you going to answer the many questions you have been asked by several bloggers or are you going to duck them and respond with personal attacks from another name "most army veterans"?

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Does the word maggot come to mind?

* The legless, soft-bodied, worm-like larva of any of various flies of the order Diptera, often found in decaying matter.

* One of the lowest forms of life. Also a Marine who spends most of his or her time trying to obtain a discharge.

I really don't think that most Army veterans are at all like Basmati MAV!

Denise Connor is quite correct, most army veterans do not feel "shame" about their military service. Quite the contrary, most army veterans think of military service as a source of pride and accomplishment, despite the insults and derogatory slurs hurled in the direction of most army veterans here by a select few.
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Hi Tug, banmani has his own version of what he did and said to Myword_Mark and I am sure he would love to take credit for running off yet another veteran.

But the truth is, Mark is as good a man as I have met in my lifetime (despite still being a democrat) and banmani slandered him and virtually called him a pedophile. He clearly stated that he did not have time for childish games and left with great dignity.

He is the also the one (you may recall) that was a school administrator here and used to brag about the Fayette County Band and K. Beard- pretty good for an old retired Colonel from special forces don’t you think?) He would kill me for telling you this but he was a chopper pilot back in Vietnam before I met him – so he’s got a few years on me. He also just moved back in to PTC What a dummy. Anyway, trust me- banmani couldn't carry his water.

He asks about you too by the way. He also asks if Hack has seen the light - but that's a knock at me converting to 'conservatism'

Hope all is well with you and the family.

Enigma

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I was going to reply to you last night, but one of my stinky, short armed squeezers spent the night with me. He wanted to use my computer for "just a minute." How could I resist.

I do remember all of the good things about myword_mark. I don't remember that he attacked teenagers. Being called a pedophile is below the belt, and would make me fighting mad.
myword_mark absolutely left with dignity!

He was a helicopter pilot in Vietnam? Wow, he's a hero too! One of my brothers served in Vietnam, he was wounded by shrapnel. He never talked about it much.

Please tell "mark" hello for me, also tell him thanks for remembering me.

Hope all is well with your family too.

Tug

We all lose our tempors at times, but you guys seem to seek substance with your questions. You typically don't try to score cheap political points (unless humor dictates). I've been blogging for a while (originally under Kevin King). I changed to AF A-10 as a thumb to the eye of ArmyMaj Retired whom I watched time and again use his former service as a one-upsmanship tool. I respect RetiredArmy, but just the use of that on a news blog tells volumes. My military service was even used against me for my daring to be critical of the Commander in Chief.
In Terry Garlock's blog response to me justifying why he lampooned the 15 Brits, Terry spent a moment saying how humble heros are, and then he told his long, harrowing story from Vietnam. He talked of how NVA feared his aircraft. I found this story oddly placed, because the subject was not HIS bravery, but his characterization of 15 Brits' behavior as "shameful." I'm not sure why he shared his hero story, but it seemed out of context.
Mixer, I read your linked article referring to the ipod issue of "Mr. Bean." Realize while this article focused on one Brit's behavior, Mr. Garlock took up a judgment shotgun and blasted all 15 sailors, naming the female specifically. I hope my LTE is published this month. I believe it brings up the valid point that Mr. Garlock and the like made Tehran's media dreams come true, by attacking the filmees and not the filmers of propoganda video.
Lastly, Basmati, I wish you had stayed in. You tick people off and get under their skin, but we can use such warrior spirit these days. Grabbing an enemy by the neck with one hand and the "manhood" with the other while trying to head butt them into unconsiousness is a killer instinct that is not as prominent as I once remember. People are definitely not adjusted to liberals with strong verbal uppercuts and devastating argumentative submission holds. I won't hesitate to say I'm glad we are on the same side of many issues. Will
"Tap, snap, or nap" become the new liberal mantra?

Cheers to all, and PLEASE RMEMBER: WE ARE AMERICANS FIRST!! We are actually on the same team, whether we act like it or not.

ps: TUG RULES!!!!

Kevin "Hack" King

"we can use such warrior spirit these days" -- Such as, "Heil, Hitler!" ????

"Grabbing an enemy by the neck with one hand and the 'manhood' with the other while trying to head butt them into unconsiousness"

Hear the sounds of live wrestling action!

Which one is the real
Bas/MAV?

"a killer instinct" -- Bas/MAV (Most Angry & Vicious Person) wants to rip my throat open (just my impression). Seems that every entry becomes personal. So . . . . I'll oblige him.

I tried reasoned restraint with him at first when Bas/MAV called a chiropractor a Luddite (a misuse of the term) and not a "real" doctor. A chiropractor has earned the title, despite what Bas/MAV thinks of the profession. Being a chiropractor did not disqualify the man from expressing his opinion.

"Chiropractors, also known as doctors of chiropractic, must be licensed, requiring 2 to 4 years of undergraduate education, the completion of a 4-year chiropractic college course, and passing scores on national and State examinations." (US Dept. of Labor)

Bas/MAV also threw in "the Focus on der Family types" although the organization actually "supports and encourages the development of safe, effective and ethical vaccines against HPV, as well as other viruses" & "supports widespread (universal) availability of HPV vaccines."

He called me a "crone" and you called me a "winch"

But you APOLOGIZED for a few less than civil remarks & have been quite civil ever since -- even volunteered to change a tire for me!

"I'm glad we are on the same side of many issues" -- But, Kevin, are you proud of the same tactics as Bas/MAV (Most Angry & Vicious)?

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So, this "crone" is willing to help Bas/MAV have "meaning and purpose."

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Disclaimer: My reference to Hitler is in no way meant to diminish the suffering that he caused, and I am NOT calling anyone a Nazi, etc. (unlike what has been said about the President of OUR country).

I have to respectfully rule against you on this one Hack. I have been really busy for a couple of weeks. I did find time to check some of the comments.

Today, along comes bas throwing stuff at almost everyone on here, and some that are not on here anymore. Something is wrong here Hack! Can't you see that my friend?

Yes, all of us are Americans, but some of us are just mean.

God Bless us all
Tug

What made Basmati "mean?" No one bothers to peel this onion. I Tug, I am not proud of some things I have posted out of teeth gritting anger here. But why did I, at times, tussle down in the muck with people who call my brothers and sisters shovel noses, or liberal bed wetters, or treasonous, or cowards, traitors, baby killers, hippies, dope smokers, and many, many more things not too complementary? If you corner an animal; if you treat an animal with disdain and disrespect, the day will come when you are bitten. I joined these boards a couple of years ago, and I was pushed to that point within a couple of weeks by OldSchool Football who wondered why blacks were enslaved to the democratic party; on the plantation is how he put it.
It may be hard to believe, but I am a bleeding heart for anyone with problems they feel are larger than themselves. I'm sensitive and empathetic to a fault. I have put myself in not too street savy situations to help strangers I felt were in need. But when compassion is used as a weakness; when John Edwards types are called not too nice things for their compassion, the not so nice Hack can come out.
This is a long way of saying that civility is a two way street, and we'll all need to call a cease fire if their is to be a return to it. I am trying very, very hard to not get personal again with anyone. I hope the other side of the isle will try as well.

Much love to you, Tug

Kevin "Hack" King

Are you kidding me? This is your comment and advice to basmati:

"You tick people off and get under their skin, but we can use such warrior spirit these days. (Like Harry Reid?) Grabbing an enemy by the neck with one hand and the "manhood" with the other while trying to head butt them into unconsiousness is a killer instinct that is not as prominent as I once remember.(Like abu Gharib – you protested underwear on the head of terrorists for God’s sake) People are definitely not adjusted to liberals with strong verbal uppercuts and devastating argumentative submission holds." (You mean like Roseann Barr, Rosie O'Donnell, Elen DeGeneras, Terazza Kerry-Heinz, Kevin King, Basmati, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Rupaul)

Am I to assume you somehow take solace in basmati's personal attacks on those with whom you two disagree? Like his attacks on Denise for example?

You encourage this childish behavior and call it “warrior” like? You insult anyone who ever fought like a warrior by reducing it to some name calling under an annonymous moniker?

Yea, right "Hack" - it's a whole new concept this “in your face personal assault on people” and you have defined this as a 'warrior' and as a desirable trait?

Yep "Hack", we loud mouth conservative types are used to quiet little flowers like Roseanne Barr, Rosie O'Donnell, Ellen DeGeneras, Huey Newton, Malcolm X, Terazza Heinz-Kerry, You, Stand by your man Clinton, Code Pink, Cindy Sheehan, Basmati, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Rupaul, James Carvel, and a host of other quiet submissive liberals. You got us there. Yep, it's about time you spoke out.

I'm glad you find basmati's personal attacks in lieu of intellectual discourse a welcome change and a “warrior spirit”.

Meanwhile, in real life, I for one am sick of your little buddy, banmani, and his personal attacks on so many and I sure as heck don't see anything manly or ‘warrior like about it. (Are you assuming hutch, ArmyMajor, Mixer, Myword_Mark and I are somehow NOT warrior like and being 'manhandled' by the rice queen?? Surely you jest!)

Of course, I wasn’t 16 thousand feet away from my targets Kevin so while it’s not warrior like for me – for you – hiding in the night sky thanks to those of us who guide you - you might feel that hitting and running like banmani does might well be a ‘warrior trait’.

Personally “Hack”, I think if you really want to know what war is, look a man in the eyes when you kill him .... go kick his boots to see if he is dead – pull his tags if need be - don't just strafe the guy from 1000 feet and a mile away by spraying 30mm ammo and pretend like you are the author of what manhood or a ‘warrior spirit’ is all about.

Sadly “Hack”, I fear you have fallen in to the exact same role that you criticized in ArmyMajor’s posts as a “self proclaimed one upsman”.

Just because you are a week-end warrior in a 30 year old airplane doesn’t make you the testosterone King, Kevin.

Should we ask you why you aren’t you in the gulf Kevin? Why aren’t you in Iraq helping to win this war instead of criticising everyone who supports it and calling the likes of banmani a "warrior"?

You are being paid by the military after all.

I saw you took exception to Terry Garlock and the General's well written expose' as well. Are you one up on them too?

If you want to do us all a favor – call basmati on his personal attacks and restore your own credibility.

Primos Eos Flyboy.

Why you can’t believe banmani

Both of you are good men. I don't agree with either one of you all the time, but I would argue that both of you have a right to your opinion.

Do you think you can agree to disagree and not get down to Bas' level?

Love and respect,
Tug

"Of course, I wasn’t 16 thousand feet away from my targets"

"a week-end warrior in a 30 year old airplane"

Remarks prior to these were staying above belt, but these were personally demeaning and detract from the issues.

I believe that each branch of the military has its purpose and place and should be honored for such.

Besides, neither of you is one of those tough Marines. They're the best, I've heard!

I get a little sick about hearing what a loser and draft dodger Bush was when Mr. King has the same job.

I also get sick of seeing ArmyMajor being slandered by banmani.

I will leave the "code yellow" and go to code green.

I like Hack, but I am as sick as the rest of the bloggers of the 'one way street' (Cal! Help me! Cal! Help me!) that banmani lives on and really don;t appreciate Hack flying cover for him.

By the way - I'm not enigma - but I think I like the guy - I am actually Git_Real.

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Definitely agree with your comments & the feelings they cause

Just trying to fair & balanced!

"By the way - I'm not enigma - but I think I like the guy - I am actually Git_Real."

I KNEW IT!!!!

Are you sure you aren't ME?

If so, you'll be banned!

Direct quote here Denise

I hadn't seen that quote before. Now we'll see if Cal really means it. If so, basMAV is history.

Maximus

Since basMAV has given me the distinction of being a "crone" (i.e., a witch or one imagined to possess magical powers), I intend to "haunt" him every chance I get!

To "haunt" someone means "to be continually present" & "to come to [a particular person's] mind continually" or "to preoccupy the mind of excessively."

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A "witch" is also synonymous with "one particularly skilled or competent at one's craft."

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“A witch of a writer, [she] is capable of developing an intensity that verges on ferocity” (Peter S. Prescott).

I'll take the challenge!

I'm not sure what the challenge is. If it has something to do with grammar, I give up...unless of course my edader is on hand. She's the best there is.

Maximus

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Never mind, Denise. I was following the wrong thread.

M

I spent a lot of time dealing with pilots in my previous career. Since I too am Air-Force, I probably know more about their weakness and insecurities (you would be amazed at how many pilots have issues about never being able to get their feet on the ground).

I should not have made the remark I did and for that I apologize to Kevin.

I too, like Kevin said he felt with ArmyMajor, feel the need to speak up against what I perceive as someone who thinks they have a monopoly on how soldiers feel.

I would never go so far, nor do I think Kevin King would, of calling myself ‘most army veterans’, nor profess to speak for ‘most’ veterans.

I only speak for myself.

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They only "apologize" in front of a camera AFTER being pressured to do it.

Guess you're not Al Sharpton. I don't think he ever really apologizes???

Major King is MUCH nicer than Bas/MAV (Most Angry & Vicious Person)

Maybe he'll apologize, too

It seems that bad behavior and personal insults can be contagious. I want to assure you that, while I apologize, I was not at the level of many on here- nor will I be. At the risk of offending Kevin – which I do not wish to do- please allow me to clarify.

I said:

“So, under Kevin King, our national security will be dictated by the will of other countries or the majority of their citizens? Cuba for example?”

“Regardless, I cannot accept that a part time Major now knows more about national security, strategy and foreign policy than a General.
(Must be the Delta Pilot flight time - or did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night?)”

“Maybe you should consider allowing the war college graduates who put in the time and made the grade actually decide when and where to use your services as an A-10 reserve pilot.”

For those comments I apologize.

As for being Al Sharpton - you got me- I play enigma for basmati and Al Sharpton when I talk to Hannity! Dang - so much for being anonymous!

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Enigma makes a derogatory remark about Major Kevin King
Denise Connor calls upon Enigma to apologize
MIXER apologizes for the remarks he made

ENIGMA IS MIXER.

WAY TO GO, ALIAS BOY!

Just so you will know - I am me.

Since this post is after I agreed to Kevin's proposal, I will just say that and leave it.

I like your medal by the way. Did you know the Air-Force GCM is light blue with a white, red, and navy stripe?

I wonder what the Navy's looks like?

I'll take you at your word.

I don't know if the Navy has a Good Conduct Ribbon.

(I'm sure Hutch will set us straight)

I am actually Denise and Hutch and Maximus. I am TUG13, the one Hack has been so nice too. Does that make you jealous?

My apology is sincere. I said some things to Kevin I should not have- Denise made the point well. I am NOT apologizing for enigma- only he can do that.

I am apologizing for the remarks I made to Kevin last night regarding the General Wheeler blog.

I do not wish to repeat what I said but I can assure you it is nothing like the personal assualt that you (MAV, daycare worker, basmati, whatever) puke on anyone (male, female or otherwise) who disagrees with you.

A blog worth reading

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But Mixer & Enigma's writing styles are quite different.

I think you still have 2 separate bloggers to keep up with

I think banmani (Alias MAV) is losing his psychotic, err, I mean psychic powers. You did warn him- I remember!

banmani changes his name in shame - Click Here for the cut and paste queens blog of the week

The Turban Wonder

Fading Fast!

Smile & have a great day!

The alias "Mixer" is now claiming to be an Air Force Combat Controller below, so that's a pretty good indication that "Mixer" is either an alias for Enigma or his creepy teenager stalking buddy Myword_Mark.

Yes, you got me. You got the tater.... you found the only Combat Controller in America. Whatever you do - don't go to Warner Robbins.

This is the funniest thing I have ever read. "I found one, I found one" LOL - Cal- make them stop!!

I have an idea- check the IP address!! Maybe it's the myword_mark guy!

Hey I met the Delta Pilot yesterday. You know him? Tomorrow, I am supposed to meet the guy in the Army.

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then that's fine with me. No response in kind this time. No need to. If you have an internet fight with Basmati, take it up with him. I sign my name. I do not hide. I fear only God, my wife, and my daughter. I won't apologize for any of my experiences. I won't ask you to apologize for any of yours. And if you want to look me in the eyes, do it by name, Enigma. Do it by name.

kevin.king@vance.af.mil

Cheers,

Kevin "Hack" King

There are a multitude of reasons why people blog anonymously Hack. Fear of you isn't one of them.

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They might get cross with you at times, but you know that they mean you no harm. But it is interesting how personal you gents (or ladies for all I know) have become using personal information I choose to freely share. Would you sling the mud you have slung as of late using your name, or do you need the comfort of shadows? That is an honest question Mr. or Ms. Mixer. I'm confused. I have never come after you or what I perceive as your career or station in life, but you wish to descend with me, it seems, to a more basic, primal level. I'm not gonna go there. I'm just waiting for you to return to arguments and comments that can actually be discussed with a straight face.

Kevin "Hack" King

I mean you no harm either Kevin. But I also don’t think you are the 'voice of reason'- should I refer to some of your past statements - or can you recall your embarrassing statements without the reminders?

Have you ever met a Combat Controller that was female? Mr. would be appropriate- of course - you already know that don’t you.

You chose to glorify basmati's personal attacks- in fact - you have used him as a proxy. Now you attempt to justify his vitriol by describing him as a 'cornered animal'.

Who cornered him and why Kevin?

Isn’t he the ‘Warrior that grabbed ten of your brother vets by the throat and the manhood and head butted us in to submission?’

Come on Kevin- if you lay with dogs you get fleas. You don’t see the other ‘liberals’ like JeffC being ‘backed in to the corner’ do you?

Stop enabling the one true source of demeaning behavior and the entire post will be elevated. You would turn off Ann Coulter or change the station wouldn’t you?

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Basmati a warrior? Give me a fargin break! He’s nothing but a whining little weasel. But whining is what liberals are best at.

This is the best post I’ve seen in a long time. I was starting to get a little bored with the whole thing. Keep up the good work.

Maximus

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Since Bas/MAV likes The Simpsons, maybe he follows this philosophy:

"Marge, don't discourage the boy! Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals! Except the weasel." -- Homer Simpson

Weasel's Office

The Way of the Weasel

insubordination and narcissism : A bad combination in the military.

A strike against the General

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Basmati, I have compiled the following list from what I have read (thus far) of known veterans that you have personally insulted or spoken of in derogatory terms when replying to their non-specific statements:

1. Terry Garlock,
2. RetiredArmyMajor,
3. Enigma,
4. Myword_mark,
5. Hutch866,
6. Old School Football,
7. RightOnTheMoney,
8. pentapenguin
9. Trey Hoffman
10. Mixer

Do you recall this statement?
“I'm a veteran, my father is a veteran, my brother is a veteran, my father-in-law is a veteran, my brother-in-law is a veteran. I served for three years in the active duty Army, and one year in the Army Reserves. I have a DD214 to prove it.”????

That was you basmati and yet in five minutes of ‘research’ I was able to find at least 10 veterans you personally accost and falsely accused …. I am the tenth.

Was that rant to bolster your opinion? Was that to make us think you are somehow more patriotic than your anti-military rants? Is that why you assume others do that- because you did?

Now you say, “Now, I don’t care if you have won the friggin’ Medal of Honor, that doesn’t give you the right to impugn my love of my country. “

You have a complex sir.

No one waived any medals.

No one impugned your “love of country”.

Since you were blogging on my behalf, I can only assume you are talking to me. I now know why so many people think you are nasty, accusatory, and inaccurate when you criticize them.

I would not even begin to contradict all of these allegations you have made other than just to say what I have read in your exchanges with those you noted varies greatly from your account.

I saw where you actually infererd that one blogger, a former school administrator and veteran - whose job it is to keep up with the 'sports' you claim he argued about to what you called - 'teens'- you actually infered he was a pedophile – yet – it not only was his profession it was obviously a chance to teach. I also see where you discussed sex with a six year old girl - according to a young lady, Denise Conner, you have called a multitude of derogatory names.

I also saw where the MywordMark ‘bowed’ out gracefully rather than to roll in the gutter with you (as Hutch put it).

Let's move on - Tell me what aspect of liberism you feel as been quiet and reserved all these years that will no longer stand silent?

Gay Rights?
Abortion Advocates?
Anti-War protestors?
Atheists?
Secular humanists?
Environmentalists?
NAMBLA?
The ACLU?

Who has been silent basmati? You?

No, you will not be one worth arguing with here. Unlike some who did, I will not leave because of you. I will simply follow the lead of those who chose to ignore you like the ArmyMajor you are so consumed with.

Good day sir.

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Mixer, for the record, I have never served in the military. However I would also state for the record that serving in the military is an honorable profession and my hat goes off to all the great vets we have here like Enigma and Hutch.

But Mixer, you are right, basmati has called me names.

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Let's look at your little rogues gallery:

1. Terry Garlock ("anti-war left gives aid and comfort to enemy")
2. RetiredArmyMajor (too many to mention)
3. Enigma (not-military service related, thin-skinned loudmouth)
4. Myword_mark (not-military service related, thin-skinned loudmouth)
5. Hutch866 (he apologized for his comments about my patriotism, I have no issue with him)
6. Old School Football (announced he was immune to criticism because he was black and a veteran and old)
7. RightOnTheMoney (loudmouth "marine" standing up for his buddy Old School Football)
8. pentapenguin (not-military service related, opportunistic ghoul)
9. Trey Hoffman (not-military service related, another treason-baiting loudmouth)
10. Mixer (not-military service related, thin-skinned)

Feel free to disagree, sir. Stay or leave, it matters not one whit to me!
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Sorry, I won't call you "most army veterans." You can't change who you really are basmati, and you've proved you're the same ole mean spirited basmati with your venom filled diatribe above.

And I'm a "ghoul"? A ghoul is
One who delights in the revolting, morbid, or loathsome.
What revolting, morbid, or loathsome thing have I said? If you call me a name be "man" enough to back it up with PROOF!

Typical liberal response...can't use LOGIC to debate and instead uses blind, unthinking EMOTION when arguing. There's very little difference between you and a 4 year old with a temper tantrum. Well, that's not entirely correct. Most of the time a 4 year old will grow out of his or her tantrums.

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Hack is MAV, Git_Real is dollaraday, and basmati is baldderq.

Did I get it right?

Then who is Maximus - Tug13?

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What I do know is that no one would make the mistake of thinking that I'm Tug, would they?

No, you're too smart to be Tug!

Keep on "keeping all these guys straight."

Tug