PTC Council’s big box vote: Yes or No?

Tue, 04/17/2007 - 4:55pm
By: The Citizen

If the Peachtree City Council approves a rezoning for a proposed shopping center on Ga. Highway 74 South Thursday night, it will create the largest retail area in the city.

An approval also would go against both the city’s planning commission and the city’s planning staff, all of whom say the rezoning should be denied.

The proposal from Columbia Properties is to build a shopping center on an 49-acre tract that’s currently zoned for industrial use as part of the city’s industrial park.

The project would include a Lowe’s Home Improvement Warehouse at 138,000 square feet. The entire development, including a smaller “big box” soft goods store and a number of smaller storefront buildings, would total 216,000 square feet, not including five out-parcel lots along Hwy. 74.

If approved, the development would be directly across Hwy. 74 from the existing Wilshire Pavilion shopping center, making it the largest retail center in the city.

The developer is seeking a limited use commercial zoning so it can avoid the city’s big box requirements which are only for property zoned general commercial.

The big box ordinance limits single stores to a maximum size of 32,000 square feet and any single development to 150,000 square feet.

The city’s Planning Commission voted unanimously to recommend to the City Council that the rezoning petition be denied.

In his memo to City Council, City Planner David Rast noted that Wilshire Pavilion was rezoned from residential to commercial in 2000 to create a “neighborhood retail center” and not a village retail center.

Rast is recommending that the city move forward with rezoning the out-parcel area along Hwy. 74 but leave the zoning intact for the area where Columbia Properties wants to locate the Lowe’s and the other big box store.

Leaving the zoning intact would forbid those stores from being developed. Rast suggests in his memo that the site “would be more suitable for senior housing, professional and/or medical office space or light industrial use, all of which could be developed without changing the zoning classification of this portion of the property.”

Columbia officials claim the LUC zoning allows the city to have more control over development than currently allowed by ordinance.

The city’s land use plan calls for the parcel to be developed with single family homes at medium density, but a residential rezoning for a plan including a subdivision and several stores along the highway frontage was turned down by the City Council several years ago.

Many residents in the nearby Wilshire Estates subdivision have vigorously opposed the rezoning, worrying about increased traffic near their neighborhood exacerbating current traffic problems and creating safety issues for pedestrians on Holly Grove Road.

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Submitted by Roadrunner on Thu, 04/19/2007 - 12:17pm.

By not asking for a vote, it allows them to come back later when the spotlight isn't on them and get approved. I wouldn't be surprised if Logsdon figures out he's a lame duck near election time, this isn't pushed through right before he's out of office. Kind of like those Presidential pardons & appointments. It would be too late for the citizens of PTC to do anything short of taking the developers to court.

Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Thu, 04/19/2007 - 2:29pm.

For the Mayors term to come up again, I know that. Vote may be delayed, still show up tonight, and show up when it's back on the docket. It's fairly common to have controversial things delayed/postponed. Don't let them catch you sleeping.

Submitted by Jones on Thu, 04/19/2007 - 9:16am.

If you want Peachtree City to go the way of Fayetteville/GA 85 or Newnan/Bullsboro Pkwy, then don't come to the city council meeting this evening.

If you want to keep Peachtree City as the way it is, then please show up at the council meeting tonight at 7:00 pm.

THIS IS IMPORTANT! Don't let the mayor who is buddies with the developer crowd ruin our city!

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Submitted by Spear Road Guy on Wed, 04/18/2007 - 2:37pm.

CMC865 did a great job laying out the developer's position. Thank God the City Planner, Planning Commission and a majority of local homeowners disagree with you.

Vote Republican


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Submitted by cmc865 on Wed, 04/18/2007 - 12:48pm.

LET them build. We need more choices. The location is good. More tax revenue from south fayette and coweta folks. With the development on the edge of town this would require less of an impact on our roads.
BUILD. VOTE for more development.


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Submitted by ptcgv on Wed, 04/18/2007 - 1:25pm.

Apparently you don't live anywhere near Holly Grove or TDK.

That makes it easy for you to promote building. You and your family won't be inconvenienced at all.

Why don't you post your address and we'll have the Big Box built there.

Shame on you.


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Submitted by cmc865 on Wed, 04/18/2007 - 2:06pm.

I live in the heart of Inconvenienced Land. Off of Mcduff Pkwy. I lived through the widening of 54 and now enjoy the smoothness and ease of traffic flow. I live near BIG BOXES already and enjoy the convenience of going less than a mile for the things i need. SO SHAME ON YOU> YOU DONT SPEAK FOR EVERYONE on this or every issue about growth and development. I am not a developer or even know one.


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Submitted by bad_ptc on Thu, 04/19/2007 - 8:05am.

Like you'll really drive 8 miles out of your way to come to the south side of PTC to shop at a home improvement store when you have one less than a mile from where you live now.

Just how much money do you think PTC will get in taxes from this thing? Hint: Don't believe what the developer is saying.

Do you have any idea what it will COST PTC in city services to have it here?

I think they should four lane MacDuff Pky. so that the Coweta traffic has a better alternate than coming through 54/74. Why run thousands of cars through the middle of PTC when they're not going to stop an shop in our stores? It would be better to re-direct that traffic away from the center of town and let them go north on 74 to Atlanta.

Have you been drinking the "TDK" Kool-Aid too?


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Submitted by JGF9148 on Thu, 04/19/2007 - 7:34am.

Hey cmc865 with the Planning Commision giving the green light to annex the West Village,aka Densityland, McDuff will become the Coweta Autobahn. Unfortunatly you will not be able to take advantage of all these swell choices you want and our benevolent Mayor wants to bury us with, since you won't be able to get out of your street to enjoy them.


Submitted by dollaradayandfound on Wed, 04/18/2007 - 1:09pm.

No home wants one of these big cans near their home. They attract low class people.

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Submitted by Danbertex on Wed, 04/18/2007 - 10:57am.

"...The developer is seeking a limited use commercial zoning so it can avoid the city’s big box requirements which are only for property zoned general commercial..."

Those requirments are there for a reason. Folks, it would pay to drop by that meeting tonight and show your support for the opponents of this proposed biggest retail development in the city.

Would you like to live next to a Lowes? Neither would I. How the city fathers could ever envision these kinds of monstrosities with their attendant traffic, crime, noise pollution, and stress is beyond me. This is Peachtree City not Union City for crying out loud.

Leaders, please, enough is enough. We have enough major retail in this city already. Don't make it worse by adding more. Are you trying to get me to sell and leave? How many more stable families are going to leave and not be replaced? Please, get a grip and a backbone.

Listen to the people, not the big bucks developers and deny this rezoning.


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Submitted by JGF9148 on Wed, 04/18/2007 - 6:53am.

Well, come Thursday night after we see the vote on this,we will know what our Mayor and this City Council's true intentions are for the future of our City. If recent comments and actions can be used as a measure of what to expect we should all be concerned. When the Planning Commision and the City Planner agree this is not a suitable use for this parcel, I'd like to think the vote from Council would be a reflection of that recommendation. Don't count on it. All concerned citizens should attend this session to see first hand what the future holds. Will this Mayor and City Council bow to the quick buck? Or will they finally represent the people who put them in office in the first place and vote no? Stay tuned.


Submitted by Jones on Tue, 04/17/2007 - 8:19pm.

follow your City Planners advice and kill the Lowes!

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Submitted by mudcat on Wed, 04/18/2007 - 6:55pm.

We have a boys against the girls thing coming up. Obviously Logsdon, the development shill and Boone, his handmaiden and Stuart (difficult last name) are voting for this puppy. The girls are against because that's what girls do, but the point is you now have a 3-2 vote in favor of the Lowe's

Your only chance is to convert Stuart since the ladies won't budge - Good luck.

So, do you like my new picture? meow

I'm thinking Hillary will be the next President. That's why I dumped the cat and trying to suck up to her. I figure I could get some of that free medical care. How about you?


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Submitted by secret squirrel on Mon, 04/23/2007 - 6:02am.

Boone, Logsdon's handmaiden, is voting for "this puppy?"

Come eat some crow, cat.


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