Hey pal, this corner is taken! Besides, mine are only $3 a ton, and it's a baker's ton (2100lbs). you can use three times as much carbon-based fuel and still be carbon negative!

Maximus

Just watch the video with an open heart and I think you might think twice when some one starts talking about man-made Global Warming

Yes, I watched Gore's silly propaganda film. He is a simple man, and if he can find a way to make people turn from Capitalism and move toward
socialism, then he will do it.

The film DOCUMENTS that GORE's analysis is not only wrong, but a fraud.

Using evidence from 10, 100, 1000, 10,000, and 1million years ago, they prove C02 levels increase WHEN the climate warms, not the other way around.

What is the conclusion of the video?
1. The Sun causes pur climate change, period, case closed. All the evidence shows increased sun spot activity directly changes our climate.
2. Co2 levels follow increased sun spot and warming periods, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND! Why because the number one producer of C02 is the ocean, and when the ocean warms, then it releases huge amounts of C02. If you look at Al Gore's chart, you can see how the C02 levels increase AFTER the climate warms. It doesn't proceed them.
And finally,
3. The movement behind this new religion, is our old socialist, anti-American, anti-capitalists left wing from generations ago.

The answer that the left always seems to ahve for these types of man made crisis' is, and always will be to stop the growth of business and capitalism and to revert back to a communal (communistic) society where we live naturally off of the land with no cars, no planes, no boats, no electricity -except solar and wind.

Its all a lie. And if you say you believe it, then you are sadly either uninformed, an idiot, or a left wing Zealot.
Many think this debate is about POLLUTION, and its not. We all want pollution controls, but C02 is not the same.

POLLUTION IS NOT THE SAME!

As to whether I've done research, well I am not a scientist. But I was given a brain and common sense to question the motives behind people like Gore and his types. So when I see extensive research being suppressed by the LEFT, I find that I must look further. This video did an excellent job. I would love to find Gore's counter point to this video. If you find it, please share it. I'm always interested in knowing how we can predict the weather in 50 years, but this weekend we only have a 30% of rain.

btw: I love BG too. We Tivo it every Sunday night.

Why don't you busy yourself and list the policies and your resourses for us that you are speaking about and then we might be able to respond to the question?

It is difficult for you to express, because there are no policies that effect you; just an outrage at a boogyman who's danger you can not even put into words. If you or anyone else is upset by the "global warming" gang, there must be something substantive (of substance, tangible) that upsets you. So I should not have to tell you why you would get worked up over the global warming warners. Unless, of course, this is a drummed up outrage to energize "the right." There ARE no major policies that are taking money out of your pocket or food off of your table to institute a new US communism, as some would have you believe.
Here is an example. Say you ask me why I believe we should address the potential threat of global warming and man's culpability there-in. I would answer with ease, using beliefs that I have formed through thought and study of available data:

1. We just had the warmest winter in recorded history. Surface and ocean temperatures are steadily rising.

2. We have seen energy demands rise throughout the world as summers become ever hotter.

3. The OVERWHELMING majority of scientists believe man is a causal agent in global warming.

4. The detractors of global warming are often not scientists, or have been paid by large record-profit making corporations who do not want to spend one dime that won't equal profit in return.

5. NASA issued a report by its scientists supporting the theory that we negatively effect global warming.

6. That report was edited by a Republican political appointee who was not a scientist. The administration akcnowledged this.

7. I believe that scientists who have nothing to gain financially on the issue are more credible than fat lawyers, scientists on Exxon's payroll, and political appointees pushing political agendas.

8. Finally, common sense 101. If we believe that space travel, study, and exploration might yield valuable information we can use in the future, why would we not care enough to thouroughly study the only planet in this solar system which currently can sustain life? Is this a potential problem to be ignored? Are we good stewards? Next time you feel a slight fever or develop a cough, ignore it. And while you ignore it, go stand in front of the hospital and ridicule all of the people entering that "think" they are sick. Call them socialist lefties using government funded healthcare that is taking your tax dollars, and see how many of them you win over.

G'day, and invest in sunscreen,

Kevin "Hack" King

ps: I work in rural Oklahoma, and people are wondering where thier ponds went. This is true. Rural, sparsley populated Oklahoma. It isn't a factor of population growth. So what is it Suzy?

I mean discuss.

I work in rural Oklahoma, and people are wondering where their ponds went. This is true. Rural, sparsley populated Oklahoma. It isn't a factor of population growth. So what is it Suzy?

I think if you check right now you will find the ponds in Oklahoma are either overflowing or near full. This I know as fact. Being from the Midwest I can assure you that there are years when the ponds are dry and others when the ponds runneth over. This is shaping up to be a runneth over year.

Earlier you asked: Which of our current policies on global warming do any of you out there disagree with.

My answer: None of them. Because to date we have not created a bunch of laws as a result of the knee jerk theories surrounding global warming. I am ecstatic that we have not succumbed to the desire of the rest of the world to enact laws and restrictions that will only apply to the USA. As for me an my family...we will not become followers of the Global Warming Cult. Remember....It's leader is a by-product of Washington. Plus I'm still trying to shake the paranoid effects left on my life from the 80's when Ted Danson and the rest of his ilk tried to convince the world that we were entering the ice age. Just think....If the kooks keep this game up long enough they might eventually luck out and get the end of the world right.

I'll post pictures of what use to be a river that I mountain bike across now (the Cimmarron). I'll show you an F-16 buddy's "use to be pond" where he use to have fish. He goes by Pigs and he has 30 acres. His fish and some turtles died when his pond dried up completely this year. he has a neighbor that use to have a successful cement business. He had a dredger in a lake where he dredged up sand to mix into cement. Well, the dredging barge has bottomed out in what is now a much more shallow pond, and his business esta muerte. I hope you are right Gitreal. All of these scientists are kooks who have unknown motivations. If they are right and we continue doing nothing, we won't be here to apologize to our great grandkids who will still be trying to pay off the national debt while wearing SPF 5000 boxer shorts.

Kevin "Hack" King

I own a farm out that way and I have two 2 acre ponds that almost dried out completely. I took advantage of the situation and had a dozer dig both of them out back in September. With the really wet winter we had there both of my ponds filled completely. While there a couple of weeks ago I bought fish and restocked them.

Last year was not the first year ponds out in that part of the world dried up and it won't be the last. Severe droughts hit in cyclic manner and you just never know when your going to have a dry year. Remember all the destructive wildfires last year? Where are they this year.

If they are right and we continue doing nothing, we won't be here to apologize to our great grandkids who will still be trying to pay off the national debt while wearing SPF 5000 boxer shorts.

It's that national debt thing that frightens the heck out me. I wonder if my kids will even be able to afford boxer shorts down the road.

Hmmmm.... Mr. T is starting to grow on me. Might just have to keep him around a bit.

Lucky for our kids and unlucky for us, our kids are conserving natural resources by using much less material in those skivies these days. Have a great night!

Kevin "Hack" King

Storm Warnings

"Is global warming to blame for the intensity of recent Atlantic hurricanes? While experts debate that question, they agree that more devastating tempests are headed our way."

Full article

Another source for info is:
Discover Magazine

Of course Rush Limbaugh and his cohorts will tell you that what ever is now happening, happens every 10,000 years or so, and then reverses itself....absolutely nothing to worry about!
The companies that have him give 50,000 dollar speeches like to hear that.
Facts are that we have damaged the ozone layer. The icebergs are melting. And our air isn't fit to breathe anymore.
We need to stop doing the things that cause those facts, even if ir costs us a couple of hundred more bucks for a car.