BoE hires $5,000 a day expert

Tue, 03/20/2007 - 4:26pm
By: John Thompson

A high-powered and high-priced consultant will aid the Fayette County School System as it gets ready for its next round of redistricting.

Kelley Carey, who lives in Hilton Head and has a law degree from Emory and a master’s degree from Georgia Tech in city planning, has worked with school systems from Augusta to the state of Alabama in analyzing school facilities, will bring his expertise to the table this spring.

“He’s not cheap, but he’s very good,” said assistant superintendent of operations Sam Sweat during Monday night’s Board meeting.

Sweat said Carey charges $5,000 a day for his services, and is not sure how many days the school system will use him. Sweat got his name from a group of Peachtree City parents who discovered Carey’s expertise on the Internet.

He added the school system will be gathering the demographic data and sending it electronically to Carey, which reduces the cost.

“I’ve already made several calls to him at no charge,” Sweat said.

Hiring a consultant is just one piece of the school system’s efforts to make this round of redistricting more open and inclusive to parents.

On April 9, information will be distributed to each PTSO president asking for the president to choose a representative to serve on a community advisory committee. The committee will meet May 21 and the process for redistricting the elementary school lines to accommodate Inman Elementary School in the 2008-2009 school year will begin.

“It’s going to be a tough process, but we want this to be as transparent as possible,” said Sweat.

On June 1, the redistricting committee featuring administrators will be named and start working with the community advisory committee. During the summer, the committees will meet and share demographic data and facility capacity and work towards establishing a redistricting plan by Oct. 1.

As the process evolves, Sweat will be sending the demographic information to Carey who will focus on trends in Fayette County’s growth.

“He wants to see the last five years of statistics, so he can see the trends,” Sweat added.

The assistant superintendent acknowledged that the redistricting effort did not go smoothly for Bennett’s Mill Middle School, but believes the key is improving the process and making sure the community is involved.

“This is the hottest political issue there is,” he said.

School board member Bob Todd agreed with the new process.

“It’s data-driven, so it will make it much easier for us to pick school sites,” he said.

Board member Janet Smola said committee members need to realize how difficult a task awaits them.

“They are going to be dealing with emotional issues,” she said.

“It’s going to be a lot tougher than last time,” Sweat said.

But Sweat is hopeful that the consultant’s expertise, along with a new software program, will provide the system a template for future redistricting efforts.

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Submitted by yale1993 on Sat, 03/24/2007 - 12:44pm.

The Fayette County School Board all should undergo an IQ test or, at minimum, a common sense test. I feel, sadly, they would fail each one. First, they could not, or would not, keep illegal students out of Fayette County Schools. The school board's argument was that no problem existed. Sure. Then, when the citizenry knew that was utter and complete hogwash, they finally addressed the issue and started verifying students' residency in Fayette County. Way to go school board! Now, after some redistricting issues blew up in their face, they are paying some "expert" $5,000.00 per DAY for advice on the subject? $5,000.00 a day?! What a JOKE! Moreover, what a RECKLESS WASTE of taxpayer dollars! And...WHAT A SHAME!

Submitted by it22bsn on Sat, 03/24/2007 - 12:27pm.

I promised myself I wouldn't say anything nasty so I will stick to the facts.

#1: We [taxpayers] are being forced to pay a so-called "expert" $5,000 A DAY to analyze our county and school system boundaries.
#2: This "expert" never has to step foot in Fayette County to do his analysis.
#3: How long is it going to take him? If he takes 30 days, or 1 month, to complete his analysis that would be $150,000. If it takes 60 days, or 2 months, that would be $300,000.
#4: How many teachers or other ESSENTIAL school personnel could we employ YEARLY for what we are paying this "expert"?
#5: Don't we [taxpayers] ALREADY pay for City Planners in Fayetteville, PTC, and Tyrone?
#6; Why not let the PTSO community advisory committee and the City Planners get together and work on this issue.

Submitted by gerri on Sat, 03/24/2007 - 12:47pm.

The FCBOE admitted they made mistakes in the last redistricting fiasco and have sought to rectify it for the next go round. They need to be commended for that. It takes courage to admit mistakes and even more courage to change the way you do things. If you compare the cost of the expert they are hiring to the cost of the faulty software program they purchased for last redistricting he seems a bargain. Remember we have middle schools with trailers and a white elephant new middle school in the middle of the county opening at 35 percent capacity. Something went wrong.

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Submitted by hutch866 on Sat, 03/24/2007 - 12:51pm.

if you wait till you need a new school, you've waited too long. it takes time to build it and you have to plan ahead. when they try to do something about the trailers the parents are all up in arms and no one wants to go to the new school so what is your solution?

I yam what I yam...Popeye


Submitted by gerri on Sat, 03/24/2007 - 1:02pm.

and do it right the first time round 2) Leave land acquisitions to the experts too that way taxpayers are not stuck with unwanted land and bubbas best friends are not getting rich off the taxpayers.

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Submitted by mapleleaf on Sun, 03/25/2007 - 7:26am.

A doctor might be a cancer expert, but it does not mean he/she can cure it.

School redistricting involves making forecasts about age-specific population counts within limited areas with boundaries that can be shifted while the forecasts are being made. Because people are free to live where they want (within practical limits) and to have or adopt children liable to attend public schools, it is impossible to make accurate forecasts of an area's future school-eligible population. It doesn't matter whether you are an expert or not. That does not mean one must give up on making a forecast, and an intelligent, knowledgeable person can make a fairly decent short-term forecast, but it does mean it is foolish to throw a lot of money on a so-called expert who, mark my words, will never walk on water no matter what.

Compounding the problem is that the further one looks into the future, the weaker the forecast. School buildings can last 50 years and some have lasted even longer. A school location that is optimal when the school is built can turn into a not so good location long before the school building can be scrapped. Population shifts also take place. School redistricting plans thus have short useful lives.

No matter what redistricing plans an expert comes up with, there will always be complaints. Hiring a very expensive out-of-town expert won't change that. It's just money thrown away. Taxpayer money. For the sake of deflecting criticism. Weak people can't bear criticism.


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Submitted by nuk on Sun, 03/25/2007 - 8:53am.

I too also wonder just how amazing a person can be when it comes to school districting, to the point that our system pays 5K a day for that expertise. Does this consultant have the power to soothe everyone who doesn't agree with boundaries, that they aren't "city schools," that there are too many this-or-that in this district, etc? Good luck.

Maybe the mega-consultant can suggest that building one-level buildings instead of multi-story is asinine, wastes space, etc. OMG, they might have to add an elevator to the design to comply with ADA! Geez, the horrors.

This is a total waste of money by a school board that hasn't been in touch with the people who they serve for some time. Time for another purge.

NUK


Submitted by truth monger on Thu, 03/22/2007 - 8:05pm.

If I remeber correctly, the last round of rezoning for schools was ugly. I think that the FCBOE is making a wise investment in the future of this school system by seekig help from a professional. They(FCBOE) are good at educating our kids but they struggle with school placement. Recall if you will, the Bennett's Mill fiasco...this is reason enough to step out of the box and let someone else handle these decisions.

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Submitted by bad_ptc on Thu, 03/22/2007 - 9:02pm.

I'm glad they sought help but I'm am a little leery about paying anyone $5,000/day. Steven Hawkins doesn't charge that much.

Will the FCBoE use this person as a shield for future complaints from the parents? "It wasn't us who decided".

I will give them some credit for at least trying.


Submitted by Russell on Wed, 03/21/2007 - 10:57am.

I think when any one on the BoE ask for our vote they said they
where the person to do the best job. So now bo it. Bring in someone who know nothing about our school system. Redistricting will always make
someone unhappy. But it dose take a load off the BoE. I would think
that to look at zoning and new homes should tell you what need to be done. If the personel are up to par the programs in the schools should be the same. Maybe you want us to look at the wrong problem
JUST DO THE JOB YOU WANTED TO HAVE.

Submitted by Jones on Tue, 03/20/2007 - 4:40pm.

If Peachtree City, Tyrone and Fayetteville would stop rezoning land to a higher density, we wouldn't be having these school redistricting problems.

The new Wieland subdivision in Tyrone, westside annexation in Peachtree City and Fayetteville adding thousands of new students in multiple subdivisions means MORE REDISTRICTING AND MORE TAXES $$$.

Instead of a $5,000 per day consultant, why not get the city councils to just say "no" on higher density rezonings to keep our districts stable and our taxes down!!!! (Yes, Ms. Smola, I'm talking about your husband.)

Submitted by oldbeachbear on Wed, 03/21/2007 - 4:18am.

When the last Wieland subdivision was given the green light in Tyrone by the Council, Smola, Letourneau, and the Mayor voted for it against a jeering crowd. They were standing up yelling it would overcrowd the schools. No one paid them any attention. Now they are trying to pass a rezoning for downtown Tyrone to houses on 1/4 or 1/8 acre. There is no sewer in downtown. None of this rezoning land to higher density is wanted by the taxpayers. Wonder why some people keep on with their agenda and not the taxpayers?

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