Coweta deputy right to ram fleeing suspect?

Thu, 03/01/2007 - 5:18pm
By: John Munford

U.S. Supreme Court hears arguments on crash that paralyzed driver

The United States Supreme Court will determine whether or not a former Coweta County sheriff’s deputy can be sued in court for using his patrol car to ram into a fleeing vehicle that fled deputies at speeds upwards of 90 mph in March 2001.

The pursuit at one time detoured through the pedestrian-friendly shopping center The Avenue in Peachtree City, albeit late at night after most stores closed. The ensuing crash — which occurred off Ga. Highway 74 in Peachtree City near TDK Boulevard — paralyzed the suspect, Victor Harris, who wants to hold deputy Timothy Scott liable for the crash.

At the time, Harris was fleeing a deputy who attempted to pull him over for a speeding infraction in Coweta County. But Scott has testified that at the time of the crash he had no idea Harris was initially wanted just for speeding.

One of the major issues at hand is whether or not Harris’s conduct could be deemed a threat to the public, which could justify Scott’s decision to ram Harris’s vehicle in an attempt to stop him. Moments before the collision, Scott’s supervisor gave him permission to “take him out,” referring to Harris’s vehicle.

In this case, use of that maneuver caused Harris’s car to run off Ga. Highway 74 onto an embankment.

In oral arguments Monday before the Supreme Court, Scott’s attorney noted that in the night-time chase, Harris ran a number of red lights, swerved around cars that blocked him and he also weaved through The Avenue shopping center. Harris also drove his vehicle into a small collision with Scott’s patrol car.

Harris’s attorney, Craig T. Jones, argued that Harris was driving safely during the pursuit, even using turn signals as he passed other vehicles.

That drew a sharp observation from Justice Anthony Kennedy.

“He used the turn signal. That’s like the strangler who observes the no smoking sign,” Kennedy said.

Jones also argued that The Avenue was closed after when the chase happened around 11 p.m. that evening.

The court also focused at times on whether Harris should be blamed in the incident.

“He created the scariest chase I ever saw since ‘The French Connection,’” said Justice Antonin Scalia.

If the Supreme Court rules in Harris’s favor, it would likely lead to the lawsuit continuing to a jury trial.

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Submitted by bladderq on Mon, 03/05/2007 - 9:18pm.

Why is that when a perp hits a police car it is deadly force but when a cop uses his car it's justified? Just askin'. I guess if we'd had HAWK1 back then this and that unfortunate accident the Luthersville PD caused at Publix would not have happened. You know the PD would have backed off and let the COPter follow from above. Why don't we read those stories?

Submitted by swmbo on Sat, 05/12/2007 - 12:11pm.

Why is that when a perp hits a police car it is deadly force but when a cop uses his car it's justified? Just askin'.

The answer is that a police officer cannot just ram into a civilian vehicle for no good reason. There has to be some need to prevent or intervene in crime to use a POV, essentially, as a weapon. But, usually, if a perp hits a police car, they weren't just confused or forgot to check their blind spot while operating a 3,000+ pound vehicle.

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Submitted by bladderq on Sun, 05/13/2007 - 10:42pm.

"The answer is that a police officer cannot just ram into a civilian vehicle for no good reason. There has to be some need to prevent or intervene in crime to use a POV, essentially, as a weapon. But, usually, if a perp hits a police car, they weren't just confused or forgot to check their blind spot while operating a 3,000+ pound vehicle"

Just saw on the liberal WSB-tv that some GSP car chase hit a pedistrian in Clarke Co. I guess she and the guy at the Publix here a few years ago are just "collateral' damage. But we in PTC hire better, more educated officers. No throw downs here like in ATL.

By the way...HAWK1 is way down on the count. Shell station robbery, Radio Shack. Anyone got a hit for the thang? It did wake my dog up this Sat. AM when it was buzzing the Flat Creek Golf Course. What was that about? Lt.Col.MajGen Jerden is gone & I had nothing to do w/ the Wilson murder....fer the record.

Submitted by skyspy on Mon, 03/05/2007 - 10:37pm.

When cops are fighting crime, the criminal is asking for whatever they get. As far as I'm concerned most criminals never get it badly enough to suit me.

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Submitted by MajorMike on Mon, 05/14/2007 - 8:23am.

Which criminals are you referring to, the ones with or without the badge & gun? If your "get it badly enough to suit me" statement in itself didn’t make it apparent that you need psychiatric counseling, I would suggest that you read the news (local included). You might just discover that the Bell Shaped Curve is applicable to law enforcement agencies. There is a (long overdue) growing movement to require civilian oversight to law enforcement agencies. Until this happens AND we remove the monetary incentive from day to day law enforcement we will continue to witness one scandal after another. Everyone's friend "Cool Rahim" isn't a "VOTS" (Victim of the System), law abiding citizens / tax payers are! If it's not violent crime, crimes against children, or revenue generating, it's not even on the scope (at least in most departments).


Submitted by skyspy on Mon, 05/14/2007 - 3:58pm.

A couple of bad cops in Atlanta doesn't make every cop bad.

When a criminal runs from a cop and gets hit by a car doing it I don't feel bad. If they point a gun at a cop and he shoots them I don't feel bad. The cop is defending his life.

It sounds like you have gotten too many tickets......is that why you hate law enforcement???

The fact that you seem to love criminals and cheer them on seems kind of crazy to me.

I do agree with you the people who pay taxes are the real victims everytime a criminal is turned loose.

Have a nice crime free day mike/cool rahim

Submitted by mswench2u on Wed, 03/14/2007 - 4:26pm.

My only question is, "If he was just wanted for speeding, why was he trying sooo hard to get away from the officer who was after him"?
Hmmm might he have been up to something else to make him try to out run the police besides speeding?
Perhaps next time, if there is one...he'll pull over like he should have done in the first place.

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Submitted by diablo_ogre on Fri, 05/11/2007 - 10:36pm.

Well I am sure next time he won't try to out run the police. That and I am sure those handicap vans don't top out at 90. Eye-wink


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