Santeria/Lukumi Not The Same as Voudoun

I greet you in the name of my Ancestors and the Orisa. I am a Lukumi Priestess, misnomered as "Santeria". There are liturgical, thesophical, and cultural differences in the Religion known variously as Orisa, Yoruba, Lukumi and "Santeria" and the religion known as Voudoun.

You have erroneously grouped multiple religions together.

It is an afront to the members of the Orisa/Yoruba/Lukumi/Santeria and, separately, Voudoun community to imply that we would use our religion and its' practices, designed to bring balance into our lives and into the world, in this manner. It makes me wonder why you don't also report how many Bibles and Torahs you find at the crime scenes where Christians, Jews, et al, are the perpetrators---which clearly are the vast majority... What is your point?

If you don't know, ask somebody....we are here and available.

I leave you with Alafia....Peace

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Submitted by TonyF on Mon, 02/26/2007 - 8:58am.

It all sounds a bit odd to me. But, what do I know. By the way; I am a Frisbeetarian,can't we all just get along?

"The memories of a man in his old age, are the deeds of a man in his prime.You shuffle in the gloom of the sick room,and talk to yourself as you die."
(R. Waters)


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Submitted by hutch866 on Wed, 02/21/2007 - 8:42pm.

the pot growers hang bibles over their pot plants it will be mentioned in the reports


Submitted by dollaradayandfound on Wed, 02/21/2007 - 6:21pm.

I read your comment, then looked up an explanation by one of you as to your worship.
"Magic" seems to play a big part in your religion. Many "Christian" religions say about the same thing as "magic" but since that word is not valued as true by anyone, they usually say "miracle," or give us a dollar and we will see to it that you get 10 dollars back!
I regret that some of your ancestors were brought here from Nigeria and other places in Africa, but I doubt if there is ever going to be a place in this country for those Pagan religions. People are such doubters anymore due to so much trickery.
If it is entertainment (as the Gypsies once did here) then you might make some money. If it is practiced in order to go to heaven, forget it here.

Submitted by Iyalosha Oba Anya on Wed, 02/21/2007 - 9:42pm.

Again, the proper name is Voudoun, not Voodoo. As working Priestess, I don't practice Magic...Magic is often the word used to describe the miraculous changes and balance that is brought to bear on the problem.
A better way to understand our religion is, "Spiritual Science".

Just so you know, there are millions of us all around you everyday -in every walk of life. Even the coach who won the world series is a High Priest of our religion. Ethical priests don't use the religion to make money, we have jobs and other means of income. There are charlatans in every walk of life---religious or not. Don't believe anything you see on TV or read in 500 words of less articles....they don't know, trust me.

The red strings, from what I saw on TV, were used to hold up the bud laden plants. The bows were probably decoration.

Alafia,
Iyalosa Oba Anya, Oni-Oni

Submitted by dollaradayandfound on Thu, 02/22/2007 - 5:53am.

I wonder if you might tell me what a "working priestess" does precisely? What is other means of income? What are miraculous changes, and balance brought to bear?
I don't want to put you into the same category as the ones pictured on old TV shows (you know, snakes, bones, dancing furatively, poisons, potions, zombies, etc.,) but if you don't describe in detail one of your functions including your dancing and motions and potions, then I have no other choice, do I?
I do hope you won't leave a doll with pins in it on my porch!
It seems whatever one of these "religions" is accused of, they say it is not them, but the other branches who are bad.
I know I sound harsh, but I am interested to see if you are real or just one of those people who pretend to be generals, veterans, preachers, great lovers, etc.

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Submitted by hutch866 on Fri, 02/23/2007 - 8:15pm.

just wondering, who is pretending to be the veteran, general or preacher?


Submitted by dollaradayandfound on Sat, 02/24/2007 - 7:28am.

No one in mind. However there are many, many such people. A kid about 16 used to come into my business occasionally wearing a uniform and four general's stars, hat and all. He said he got another star and another medal from his organization every time he paid his dues. His preacher took the rest.

Submitted by Iyalosha Oba Anya on Fri, 02/23/2007 - 6:50pm.

Alafia Dollaradayandfound:

Some Priests are Priests in name only. These Priests may have come into the religion for very personal reasons and have no interest in assisting others. Those of us who are "working Priests" do work for the betterment of our communities by attending to their spiritual needs.

I am self employed, in the field of Grief Recovery, I am a Certified Grief Recovery Specialist. An example of a mirraculous change would be a situation where medical science has given up on someone and told them to go home and make preparations for their death. This person, through the grace of God (who we call Olodumare), ends up on the Mat of a working Priest. The working Priest, along with others in their religious family, does what we are spiritually instructed to do for the "dying" person, who then goes on to live a long and healthy life.

In the Lukumi faith, we don't use either bones or snakes, etc. We have no association with Zombies either. HOWEVER, we do not cast aspersions on those who do. We don't down others' religion. We do not go about prosyletizing and neither do we use dolls with pins.

As I stated before, there are bad eggs in every bunch--this is human nature--unfortunately.

You truly need to educate yourself sir, or madam.

I leave you, as I found you, in Alafia

Iyalosa Oba Anya, Oni-Oni

Submitted by dollaradayandfound on Fri, 02/23/2007 - 7:40pm.

Well, thank you for some kind of answer. Did you end up here from NO? Never heard of one around here. (of any type you mention).
Also, never heard of a paid certified grief recovery specialist.
Just let my doctor give me the morphine, please. What you do may be cheaper, however.
What are you normally "spiritually instructed" to do for a dying person on a mat?
You hardly left me as you found me! You don't mind snakes, etc.

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