Logsdon asks Coweta to ditch 4-lane bridge

Thu, 02/01/2007 - 3:56pm
By: John Munford

Coweta could vote to override GRTA requirement for McIntosh Village

Peachtree City Mayor Harold Logsdon has asked the Coweta County Commission to override a regional agency’s requirement that the bridge over Line Creek for the extension of TDK Boulevard be four lanes.

Logsdon met this week with Coweta chairman Tim Higgins to submit the request because Coweta County is the only local governing body that can override the requirement from the Georgia Regional Transportation Agency. Logsdon is adamant that the bridge should be two lanes because Ga. Highway 74 can’t handle the additional traffic that would be created by the proposed 3,000 home McIntosh Village development proposed for the Coweta side of the creek.

“If we allow that bridge to be built with four lanes, that’s giving tacit approval to four-laning TDK,” Logsdon said, adding that TDK “will either be two lanes or it will be no lanes.”

Logsdon said another of his worries is that four-laning TDK would require Peachtree City to expand the TDK bridge over the CSX railroad tracks from two to four lanes.

"I don’t want to put that on the back of Peachtree City residents,” Logsdon said.

The mayor said he didn’t get the feeling that Coweta officials would be receptive to the idea, but he was told they would discuss the matter at its next meeting or it would at least be presented to the individual commissioners.

The current agreement between Coweta County, Fayette County and Peachtree City calls for the TDK extension to be two lanes wide, Logsdon said, linking Peachtree City’s TDK Boulevard with McIntosh Trail in Coweta County.

Since the requirement was attached to the McIntosh Village plan, which is in Coweta County, the Coweta Commission could override the GRTA decision with a three-fourths vote.

Logsdon said Fayette County Commission Chairman Jack Smith also attended the meeting in Coweta.

Money for the bridge is not an issue since McIntosh Village developer Tom Reese has pledged to pay for the additional two lanes on the bridge.

Residents from the proposed McIntosh Village development are likely to use Hwy. 74 than to go up the two lanes currently existing on Hwy. 154 in Coweta, which also provides interstate access, Coweta Commissioner Paul Poole recently said at a GRTA meeting on the bridge issue.

Logsdon said he appreciated the dialog with Higgins and Coweta administrator Theron Gay, and he thinks some groundwork for future cooperation was laid.

Another twist to development in Fayette in Coweta is that they are overseen by two different regional agencies: Fayette by the Atlanta Regional Commission and Coweta by the Chattahoochee Flint Regional Development Commission.

Logsdon said he hopes the power of the two different regional agencies can help secure funding for other road improvements so Coweta residents can have other ways to get to Interstate 85 than Hwy. 74.

Because of the tremendous growth expected in the area, both in Coweta and Fayette, the governments will need to cooperate to provide the necessary road infrastructure, Logsdon said.

By not stalling the TDK extension, the city will be doing its part to cooperate on a regional basis.

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Submitted by Jones on Sun, 02/04/2007 - 5:09pm.

TDK is looking to be the mayor's Waterloo. As a manager, the mayor shows very little prospect of leading the city toward any pleasant outcomes.

I think PTC_Guy was right on his assessment of Harold Logsdon.

Submitted by SandySue on Fri, 02/02/2007 - 7:36am.

Come on people, they are masking the issue to be 2 or 4 lanes. They are making it sound like we win if we ONLY build 2 lanes. Remember, we do not want any TDK, or the bridge at all. Focus, focus, NO TDK.

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Submitted by the_assassin on Sun, 02/04/2007 - 11:53am.

Just wait 2 weeks. It will all become clear.

But I doubt if Sandy Sue nor Save Our City will apologize.

In the very near future it will become more clear to those who can read between the lines. TDK will be in jeopardy, and it will cost the city but the payoff will be huge.

For the record SS and SOS, the standard of proof among Fayette citizens is very high. Until you come up with some concrete proof, we don't want to hear your constant whining.

The only fun thing any politician can do with his campaign money is throw a big party. Harold did; big whoop! Jealous you didn't get invited? Or maybe you're just in the "out" party with Steve "gimme a Walgreen's" Brown.

Submitted by PTCGA1 on Sun, 02/04/2007 - 1:33pm.

Have you checked out the donation records for Harold Logsdon? Can anybody tell me if it is true that a family of non-Peachtree City residents donated money to Harold Logsdon's mayoral campaign? Does this family own a large tract of land that is adjacent the proposed TDK bridge?

Inquiring minds want to know!

Submitted by PTCGA1 on Fri, 02/02/2007 - 12:21am.

I think we should allow golf carts from the City of Mcintosh to come over, but +60,000 cars per day..thanks, but no thanks.

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Submitted by SLUF on Sat, 02/03/2007 - 6:54pm.

How do 3,000 homes (as sated in the article) produce 60,000 extra cars? This seems like "fuzzy math" to me. Maybe I missed something. Explain.

quit whining

Submitted by dollaradayandfound on Sat, 02/03/2007 - 8:04pm.


Submitted by dollaradayandfound on Sat, 02/03/2007 - 8:03pm.

The pre-figuring numbers are never correct, not even the state employees numbers.
However if there is anything the average citizen does worse than run a small business, it is math! Not just the math, but the logic associated with estimating.
The quantity of houses in one little area, or even two or three areas, have less to do with the traffic pattern than does the need and convenience of the road. Another major thing usually not even thought of by unimaginative people is the service vehicles that might use the road. Tractor and trailer rigs would have a ball going from I-85-S to say, Clayton County.
Also, ten years of construction in that part of Coweta county would mean thousands of trips, no, tens of thousands, by cement trucks, building supply trucks, new store stocking trucks, etc. Multiply that by the ten years it will take to built most of it!
Does anyone who gives it thought think that this road won't be extended to I-85 eventually? And, to I-75 the other way? Of course it will.
Peachtree City has about ten more years of decent living, and then maybe ten more of survivability, and then it won't be any better place to live than any other Atlanta surrounding community.
It would take several real miracles and many leaders with excessive courage in our local government to stop it from happening, and we don't have them! The fact is we fall into two categories: those who want the money to build it all, and those who haven't got a clue.

Submitted by PTCGA1 on Sun, 02/04/2007 - 12:59am.

"Coweta Developer Tom Reese spread the plans out on the dining room table at his south Coweta County home, eager to show a visitor the most ambitious project he's ever undertaken."

"The drawings show dozens of shops along a 40-foot-wide cobblestone walkway. Thousands of homes fronting crisscrossing streets. Big swatches of green space and small pocket parks. Parking hidden in alleyways and behind shops and offices. Reese said children could walk or ride on trails to a new elementary school, on 25 acres he plans to donate." Aww---ain't that nice... a whole 25 acres!!! wooowoohhhhooo out of a $1.5 billion project - - what a guy!!

"Is it my legacy?" he asked. "I hope it is."

The 61-year-old founder of Reese Developers wants to build a 1,597-acre community called McIntosh in east Coweta County that would be a major departure for a lightly developed, but fast growing, area of the Southside.

Unlike the typical Coweta subdivision, where each house is on 1.6 acres with a septic tank, McIntosh would be URBANlike: 3,164 homes, 946,050 square feet of retail space, 119,650 square feet of office space and 399 acres of open space.

Submitted by PTCGA1 on Sat, 02/03/2007 - 9:16pm.

Concrete trucks commonly splatter "fresh mud" (as they say)...and you can be sure the TDK-Mutt Highway to Hell will fully blessed with ample amounts of droppings of this stuff (love it when it cures...bump bump!!). The TDK-Mutt Highway to Hell/Highway 74 intersection is truly going to be one horrific sight. Large rigs jammed with sod, building materials, pre-fab roof trusses, and brick loads, STRAINING to make a tight turn, belching smoke and making some serious noise. Oh yeah, baby...we'll be luvinit!! Thanks to our THREE Benedict Arnolds (and future City of Mcintosh residents): HAROLD "Financial Expert" LOGSDON, "Sweetness and Light" RUTHERFORD, and STEVE BOONE (BTW, is this guy actually alive or do they prop up something embalmed?).

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Submitted by mudcat on Sun, 02/04/2007 - 7:12am.

You are really obsessed with this McIntosh village thing. If it bothers you so much - and so much more than anyone else on here, why don't you just move? If you think all that construction and traffic will hurt housing values - move now before prices fall.

If you don't want to move, we will assume you don't actually care about what you are complaining about , but rather the sellout of our politicians to developers. If that is the case, then you are probably planning to run for office against them. If so, we need to hear that now so we all know your real motivation.

To make it clear, if you are concerned about value - move. If you are running for office - tell us. That way we'll know which trash can to file your hate filled garbage in.

Submitted by PTCGA1 on Sun, 02/04/2007 - 10:15am.

Did Tom Reese's family donate to Harold Logsdon's campaign? Do they live in PTC? If not, what could have motivated them to give money in an election that doesn't affect them...hmmm. Is this worthy of an ethics complaint...or is this worthy of something more extensive?

BTW, I want a fairly detailed synopsis of the stunning bomb you dropped about Mayor Brown asking for a condo from a major developer. Is this tape recorded? Is this a "he said she said" scenario? Inquiring minds wants to know!

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Submitted by Richard Hobbs on Sun, 02/04/2007 - 11:10am.

If you are curious, call the Fayette County Board of Elections.
When I was there, I thought we should scan all of the candidate's disclosures of donations, and then place them in PDF files on the public website. Maybe sometime in the future that will happen.

Some information they did put online, but most of the candidate info is still kept in a folder behind the front desk.

You have the right to review it. Just go ask.

Submitted by PTCGA1 on Sun, 02/04/2007 - 1:35pm.

Did the Coweta land owners actually donate to Logsdon's campaign?

Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Sat, 02/03/2007 - 9:12pm.

You'll be 10 years ahead of your game.

Submitted by PTCGA1 on Sat, 02/03/2007 - 7:12pm.

Hey SLUF: before you open your big mouth (or blog) and demonstrate your total ignorance, try reading something. The City of Mcintosh is only one of SEVERAL projects that will use the TDK-MUTT Highway to Hell. We get 44k just from this one development (remember, we are talking about TRIPS PER DAY - -Google it). There are thousands more from other 2 major developments.

"The third project, currently under consideration by GRTA, is the McIntosh Trail Village project in unincorporated Coweta County.

This development encompasses 1,600 acres, and includes 3,000 single-family homes, 164 live/ work residential units, 946,050 square feet of retail, and 119,650 square feet of office space. The proposal shows primary access onto McIntosh Trail and the TDK Boulevard extension for the estimated 43,953 automobile trips per day by 2016."

Submitted by dollaradayandfound on Fri, 02/02/2007 - 6:48am.

Hey, I like this one. A swinging bridge would be cheap, and fun. No horses, motorcycles, or ATVs though.
Maybe even a rope anchored ferry would be neat? Pull yourself across?
The million dollar one at Best Buy (not now used by the way) is not necessary at TDK.
Maybe we could move the "unused one" that crosses 74N just up from the big nursery. It has already sold the houses for the developer!

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Submitted by Robert W. Morgan on Thu, 02/01/2007 - 7:43pm.

This does not look like a Mayor who is focused on selling his soul to the devlopment community. Does it?

This is exactly the response that every sober and concerned citizen of Peachtree City would expect from our elected leaders. Thank you Harold. You are 100% right in taking this position and we support you completely.

Submitted by dollaradayandfound on Fri, 02/02/2007 - 6:50am.

If he gets two lanes, he will get four eventually.

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Submitted by DragNet on Thu, 02/01/2007 - 8:07pm.

These are crocodile tears. Though I am all for orderly planned expansion and development, I believe this is a political move by the mayor to "show" he's doing something. He should be showing the necessary leadership to manage growth in PTC and surroundig areas. We are not a bubble anymore, we are being engulfed by greater Atlanta and by sticking our heads in the sand we're losing the opportunity to lead and manage change and expansion (roads, transit, ligt rail, etc). We need to decide if we want to seriously lead or suffer imposition and decisions made by others for us.

Making you think twice......

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Submitted by ptctaxpayer on Thu, 02/01/2007 - 8:01pm.

This PR move by Harold and the shill response by Robert W. Morgan sound like a poorly orchestrated Rogers and Hammerstein play. Sober? Hey, it’s a comedy. Wait for Mudcat and DIRECTPAC to praise Lunkhead Logsdon as a visionary. Logsdon had an infinite number of opportunities to incinerate the whole TDK project but sat on his hands. (Musta had a straw for his brew). Harold has delivered the Holy Grail to the developers and this bridge nonsense is a bunch of window-dressing crap. Harold had to get a signed permission slip from Group VI before making these statements, since they know that Coweta will tell us to stick it, yet again. Morgan is either blindly loyal or just blind.

Submitted by dollaradayandfound on Thu, 02/01/2007 - 7:50pm.

And, you well know that, don't you?

Submitted by tonto707 on Thu, 02/01/2007 - 6:16pm.

you Harold, and Chairman Jack Smith for taking this action and sending a clear signal that you won't allow the citizens of PTC and Fayette County to be overrun by the will of bureaucrats.

Let's hope that the Coweta Commissioners will work with us to preserve the quality of life in both areas.

Submitted by skyspy on Thu, 02/01/2007 - 6:08pm.

Well Harold.....better late than never I guess....you are taking a stand for PTC a little. That is better than a 4 lane TDK.

They need to 6 lane Hwy. 154 and be done with it, those homes and people are coweta countie's problems not ours.

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