Mandatory drug testing in Fayette County schools -- are you

Tue, 01/30/2007 - 8:47pm
By: The Citizen


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Submitted by ptc_golfer on Thu, 02/15/2007 - 12:09am.

If you and your children have nothing to hide, why would you be against drug testing?

They are trying to make the schools safer for everyone... including your children. And if your child was on drugs wouldn't you want to know?

Several parents only see their children less than an hour a day. In those cases both parents work and so does thier child. They see each other from 9pm or later on... Parents can't tell alot about their child by seeing them for only an hour or less a day.

Maybe somebody else needs to enlighten them! SAD!

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Submitted by hutch866 on Thu, 02/15/2007 - 2:58pm.

I and my child have nothing to hide, but we also have nothing to prove. why should my honor roll kid who plays in the band, made the all-state band, and tutors other kids 1 morning a week have to prove she is not on drugs, I would think her accomplishments speak for themselves. Next they will come out and say "well, just to be sure let us search your house, hey if you have nothing to hide you won't mind and since you might have it in your car we need to search that everytime you leave your house. Where does all this end?


Submitted by ptc_golfer on Thu, 02/15/2007 - 12:26am.

I need to explain the SAD comment. I mean it is sad that we live today in a society where both spouses AND their children sometimes have to work. In those cases, communication between parent/child may not be as great, or as often, as we like it to be.

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Submitted by bad_ptc on Thu, 02/15/2007 - 6:51am.

If your argument is that since the school sees the child more than the parent does then maybe they should have had a dog instead.

It is SAD that people have children and expect others to raise them.

There is nothing to prevent a parent from testing their own child if they suspect any kind of substance abuse other than common sense and a complete lack of responsibility.

I guess these same people paid someone else to change the diapers too.

I wasn't aware that in todays society it was acceptable to contract out the raising of someones child to a third party.

Money sure does buy happiness.


Submitted by oldbeachbear on Wed, 02/07/2007 - 1:11pm.

If my child is on drugs, I would like to know so I could help them. You are right in that he is hurting no one but himself, to a degree. Any child who is in school on drugs, is a threat to the others who are not. How do you think they pay for their habit? They have no income to speak of and drugs are expensive. They wind up selling the drugs to their friends. Doesn't anyone remember a few years ago on the news about a very upscale area of Texas that it was mentioned the only way the dealers could pedle their wares, was to get the kids to sell to the others? The dopers stood out sore thumbs in these neighborhoods. Once your kid gets on drugs it is almost impossible to stop them...Wouldn't it be a whole lot easier just to keep the doper kids out of the schools? I know I would wind up in prison if anyone got mine on drugs cause I would hunt that person down and deal with their worthless XXX, because, for a lot of kids, that is what it is, a slow painfull death, and I wouldn't let them walk away from hurting my child with a slap on the wrist. If more parents had this attitude...we would have much stricter laws..and a lot more dopers in jail rather than preying on our kids to get the money for their next pimpmobile!

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Submitted by James_A_White on Mon, 02/05/2007 - 9:02am.

Not a privilege.

So long as the student is not found to be distributing illegal substances or using illicit drugs on school property, he is harming no one but himself. He should not be denied his education for making poor choices. Although students using drugs are in need of counseling, so are students with eating disorders and depression. It is up to families to get students the help they need for other psychological problems (yes, alcoholism and other addictions fall into the category of diseases, and should be treated as such). Drug testing will neither discourage student drug use nor remove its effects from the schools (passing a drug test after using illegal substances is extremely easy to do). It will simply take needed time and money from the classrooms.


Submitted by GloriaG on Wed, 02/07/2007 - 1:43pm.

I believe you are wrong and disagree that drug testing won't discourage drug use in the schools. Peer pressure is a huge reason lots of kids try it for the first time. This gives them an out. Start this FCBOE, right away. Stops kids from getting hooked on drugs. Done in the proper environment, drug testing is extremely accurate. I happen to be involved in an environment that tests for drugs and the average student will find it easier to say no to drugs than to go to the trouble of trying to find ways to beat the system.

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Submitted by James_A_White on Fri, 02/09/2007 - 9:03am.

Perhaps drug testing under ideal circumstances is accurate, but testing under these circumstances could hardly be dubbed so. If you'd like, I, someone who has never used an illegal substance in his life, can tell you a number of ways to pass almost any drug test after the use of almost any drug. It's not a matter of beating the system. This is common knowledge.

While peer pressure does play a large role in drug use, I fail to see how this test will reduce the pressure to try illicit substances. Testing may increase fear of punishment, but not reduce insecurities or a need for acceptance by peers. Motivation by fear is temporary and fleeting.

As for encrouaging parental involvement to dissuade drug use, many parents choose to ignore their children's addictions and the results of this drug test will not convince those in denial or the apathetic.


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Submitted by bad_ptc on Thu, 02/01/2007 - 6:09pm.

If they do, I would be interested in seeing that policy(s) and the results to date.

Maybe the Cal could look into this.


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Submitted by Enigma on Thu, 02/01/2007 - 6:34pm.

They also have a criminal background check.


Submitted by jlyrgr on Thu, 02/01/2007 - 4:28pm.

Invasion of privacy. I'll not have anyone sticking things in my childs mouth except me and a doctor thank you. I will instruct them to bite.

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Submitted by Robert W. Morgan on Fri, 02/02/2007 - 6:02am.

Yes, I'm paying the county tax dollars to educate your kids - I don't have any and I get no exemption for that. Privacy my butt - We'll test your kids for drug use and toss them out of school if they are on something. No tolerance at all. Then you can figure out a way to educate your little brat on your own dime - after the detox, that is.

When you are getting a free ride on public education, you might want to play by the rules and respect others. Privacy - you fool. You are part of why this country is going down the tubes.


Submitted by allin on Wed, 02/07/2007 - 12:54pm.

Many of us are subjected to drug testing at our place of employment - wouldn't it be nice to be the first county / state to require all recipients of our hard working tax dollars to be drug tested? I'm talking about the individuals and families that are living on government programs (food stamps / unemployment / housing / medical etc etc)? My tax dollars are drug tested at the point of earnings by my employer but not at the point of distribution by the government? Don't we have a right to ensure our hard earned drug tested tax dollars are going to be received by individuals and families that are free of drugs? Fair is fair --- Just a thought

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Submitted by hutch866 on Sat, 02/03/2007 - 2:16pm.

Where's my free ride? I was paying school taxes long before I had a kid and will be paying them long after she has left school.


Submitted by jlyrgr on Fri, 02/02/2007 - 2:46pm.

Nicely put Mr. Morgan! Going to throw them out if they dont pass huh? It stated very clearly that they WERE NOT going to involve police or throw the kids out of school. I guess you will compain that you have to pay for the counseling we will have to attend if they dont pass also? Why exactly am i part of why this country is going dow the tubes??? Because I oppose the drug testing? Good one Bob. Be for real

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Submitted by Enigma on Thu, 02/01/2007 - 6:44pm.

... to educate a child here.

Your property taxes are much less than that (in case you have not noticed) and the portion used for school tax is even less.

In other words, the largest single tax loss is the expense of educating your children. The more kids you have, the more your family costs the community. Three kids cost taxpayers over $22,000 per year x 13 years or more than $286,000.

So, you are not going to let them be drug tested, and you are going to tell them to bite? Well, then I guess they won't drive a car to school, they will ride the bus. And, I guess instead of playing extra-curriculars you can just let them roam the cart paths with the rest of the hooligans. Hey - works for me buddy.


Submitted by skyspy on Thu, 02/01/2007 - 6:14pm.

Maybe you would be more comfortable homeschooling?! Oh wait,.... that would require some effort on your part, wouldn't it???!

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