The only thing I would like to add is that Amanda is not hated.

Watching Amanda wasting her life and squandering her opportunities at the expense of her, her unborn child, and society however IS hated.

(I'm not very fond of her blaming the DEA for her being busted either but that's part and parcel to her problem and fodder for another day.)

Regardless, I appreciate you giving good advice to her without enabling her. You sound like a very nice person.

Before I start: I used to know Patricia Adams and her DAUGHTER Amanda Renee Roberts (both were arrested). Re-read the article.

Amen to the above. You could have no stated a better response. Did anyone really stop and think where this 17-year-olds mother was when this was happening??? Just read the article. Patricia Adams, ALSO ARRESTED, is this teenager's mother. Can you really blame Ms. Amanda for her actions? Yes and no. The kid obviously does not know any better because she was raised by a horrible mother. I do not know one mother that would allow any number of teenage boys to stay with her teenage daughter on any given night of the week. You are kidding yourself if you also think this is Amanda's first pregnancy. I know for a FACT this is her second pregnancy and this will be her first child (different guy from when she was only 14), if you catch my drift. Yes, Amanda is nearly an adult and she should know better. BUT, what about bad parenting??? This could have CLEARLY been prevented had Patricia raised her daughter correctly and used better judgement on deciding who comes into their house and with what. I do not believe it for a second these people had "no idea" there were drugs in the house, especially since the both of them use drugs recreationally all the time. You want to feel sorry for her? B.S. Feel sorry for yourself for your bad judgement. Her response was that of a 17-year-olds: desperate and a load of crap. And please, let it be known, the "biracial" (B.S. again) mother-daughter both look, and are,completely caucasian. There is not a single thing on their appearances that would make anybody think otherwise. These cops were just doing their job and praise God above that they are doing their best to keep drug dealers/users out of our community to make this world a safer place to live in, one dealer/user at a time.

I hope you all give this an honest read and think, truly think about this:
There is no question that Amanda was ill-advised to have written this piece. She has probably made other significantly bad decisions. Most of us "tax-paying" posters most likely contribute more to the tax base than Amanda or her friends. But NONE of that gives US the right to diminish her as a human being. How did my fellow citizens become so absolutely disconnected from the fact that this is a human being that is obviously experiencing an incredibly stressful time?
I'm not going to defend her words, but how good does it make one feel to hurl insults at a pregnant 17 year old facing drug charges? There is an 88 year old woman in Atlanta who died as an end result of a no-knock warrant; a warrant issued under dubious circumstances. Over the XMas holiday, she thought her home was being invaded, and exercised her 2nd amendment right to bear arms, not knowing it was a late night, no-knock search. So even though Amanda's story is admittedly unlikely, I cannot say, without trial, judge, or jury that she is guilty of anything.
But as my wife and I sit here side by side reading these posts, it is disturbing that we have such cold and callous people as neighbors. Hey, don't just kick anyone when they're down, but find a pregnant potential addict and then tell them how much of a tax burden they are.

WOW!

AMANDA, please don't write any more about your situation on these boards or anywhere else. Keep all conversations between you, your clergy, and your lawyer. Hunt for FAYCO's post, because they actually offer constructive advice about watching who you associate with. But please, do what is best and smart for your child. Cut any bad influences out of your life like cancer, and know that there are people here in Fayette County that care about you, your child, and your situation. This too shall pass, but you have to make the wise decisions from here on out. I KNOW YOU CAN DO IT!

God Bless, and God's Speed!!

Kevin "Hack" King

Hack, I admire you as a military man. I also admire your wife who must stay home and carry on while you're away.
I also admire Enigma, a veteran and former teacher. I believe he is a good man. He defended me when I was attacked on here. He doesn't need me to defend him, but I want him to know that I stand by my comment. (Mark where are you?)

That said, I'm sorry that you believe that we are cold and callous. I could list all the reasons why I do not believe this young woman. I decided not to, it will only start another back and forth.

Today, I am more concerned about my nephew. I found out last night that he has left for Korea with a Marine platoon. He's a Navy Medic. My thoughts and prayers are with him.

God Bless all of us

I appreciate the responses to me, but I don't need a response. I truly feel that Amanda or whoever you believed posted this needs responses; constructive ones. You will not be able to convince me that to not feel sorry for someone, you have to make cruel statements such as "I don't care what happens to you." All of you know me. You know I speak from my soul, right or wrong. My reference to the no-knock warrant in Atlanta is to illustrate that a raid by police is not proof of guilt. Period. Many here have already tried and convicted this girl.

70 X 7.

That will mean something to some of you. That is how I will treat this person. The law will deal with PROVEN indiscretions, but I won't try this case from my living room, without being privy to actual facts.
If someone jumps from a bridge, and is hanging by their fingertips, you don't have to save them. You don't have to feel sorry for them. But it is inhumane to stomp on their fingertips.
I'm going to open up a little for you guys. There is a woman in Wichita, Kansas who you would describe as a "worthless" crackhead. She has been in and out of jail for the last 8 years. She gave birth to three children. One of those children is our adopted 6 year old son.
I do care what happens to her. I hope our son can meet her one day when she is sober.
If the only good thing she ever does or did is to give birth to my son, that gives her worth. To my son, and to me, she will never be worthless.
70 X 7. While I expect the justice system to deal with her in the framing of our laws, I will deal with her with encouragement and hope.

Kevin "Hack" King

I am more concerned about the kids receiving the ecstasy and crack from these dope dealers than these dope dealers.

They have made some very poor decisions and will pay the consequences.

You are a good person Tug13 and so is Enigma. Do not feel the need to apologize for disagreeing with anyone – your instincts are good. It is evident that you have raised your children and have seen much.

You simply disagree on what should be done in circumstances such as these. In my opinion, you are right. Sympathy will prolong this group’s endeavors.

This 17 year old has had a multitude of opportunities in spite of poor parenting and has failed to take advantage of any of them. This 17 year old not only is old enough to know right from wrong, she has made it perfectly clear she has no remorse and accepts no responsibility for being a party to spreading drugs throughout this community and has no intention of doing what is right. I feel no pity for her. When she can begin to help herself, I will be the first to suggest where she can find (even more) help. Even the 'Lord' "helps those who help themselves" I would recommend she first begin to help herself by getting away from the entire clan of white trash, black trash and any other trash she has come to associate with in this drug house she is shacked up in.

I have seen those who will make excuses, and fail to take responsibility, and wait for the government to solve their problems for years. Homeless shelters, over passes, and street corners are full of them. Many good people find themselves ‘down and out’ in a lifetime and certainly deserve help. Most, however, are in need because of some sort of addiction. They first must recognize or be made aware that a problem exists. This confrontation or intervention is critical and often painful and seems “cruel” to the person receiving the intervention. There is no shortage of good intentions gone awry either and those people are enablers to the ones who seek them out. That was the purpose of the letter in my opinion. Oh yes, she’s real. She is having a harder and harder time finding sympathy as confrontation and consequences close in on her. As a result, she is seeking more and more affirmation that she is a victim and not responsible for her pitiful station in life. Think of it as a survival skill for her demons.

Regardless, those who aid in spreading of drug addiction through dealing do not have my sympathy. Hunger and poverty are great motivators to those who chose a lifestyle that is destructive to both themselves and society. Natural consequences await her and the sooner she realizes she MUST change, the greater the chance she will change and the more time she can salvage of the remainder of her life.

We love you Tug- stick to your guns.

I appreciate what you said. I am in a hurry, this will be my last comment on this subject.

My niece takes care of foster children. At this time she has a one year old baby. This precious baby was beaten so badly by her crackhead mother and her boyfriend that she almost died. Picture this tiny baby in the hospital struggling to breathe. Her two year old brother is deaf because of a "suspicious accident." I will never have any sympathy whatsoever for someone like the person who wrote this letter. My sympathy is for the children brought into this world by someone like her. All of these children do not survive. The ones that do survive are not always fortunate enough to be adopted by a loving family.
Like mark said, the Lord helps those who help themselves.

Well said my dear friend; however, you failed to mention a few things. First of all, the young lady writes well and appears capable and bright.

Bright enough in fact to cast a “victim of society and not my personal decisions” net and catch at least a few enablers like basmati and Hack. Father Epps can surely not be far behind.

Unfortunately for all of us, especially for her and her unborn child, tough love will not help if she is this astute in bringing out the ‘enabler’ in enough people that she can continue to justify her ‘victim’ status.

Secondly, you should have referred her to Mt. Olive Baptist Church.

On a related note: What does this have to do with the no knock warrant served by APD and the unsubstantiated allegations of that case? I don’t recall the police finding marijuana, crack, powder cocaine, etc. in that case. Nor do I recall the woman being involved in repeated drug and alcohol offenses.

A 17 year old is still under the legal custody and control of a parent. Where is the parent and why does she allow her pregnant teenaged daughter to live with these three men?

This red herring by Hack disturbs me because I recall a true American hero named Pat Tillman who was killed by ‘friendly fire’. Does that implicate me?

I also recall that our soldiers in Abu Ghraib and back at Meli, performed with disregard to human life. Does that mean I too am a murderer, or that you are a murderer with disdain for human life Hack?

I would like to say, first of all, I knew these people and I continue to hear about them from others almost on a daily basis. Amanda did NOT write this. At all. Nor did her mother. Both do not have a full high school education. Both speak horribly. Someone else wrote this for them, so they would at least sound somewhat educated. Referring them to church will do no good. These people have been this way for as long as I have known them. This is Amanda's THIRD arrest in under a year-- all for possession of a type of drug. All of you who want to feel sorry for them, DON'T. It's the wrong emotion. These people will and have chosen to go without power and water in their homes for over a week (before the manage to get evicted [which they have by every one]) just so they can have alcohol and pot. Can you honestly feel sorry for this type of behavior?? The mother, Patricia, ALSO ARRESTED WITH AMANDA FOR COCAINE, condones this type of behavior. So, yes, you can feel sorry for Amanda for having to grow up under horrible parenting up until she was the age of 13. Now, she knows better. There is no excuse. The ones she's coming up with now, are crap.

And just so everyone knows: Amanda was not living with these drug dealers. Patricia allowed them to stay at her house. She let this happen. She let her daughter get pregnant by a 25-year-old. Amanda allowed it to happen as well, twice (once when she was 14 or 15 by a different guy, also much older than her). These people belong in jail. They need to be taught a lesson. This is NOT the first arrest for any of these people and if jail does not happen, it will certainly not be last.

If you are able to come up with further transgressions, no matter how personal, please feel free to tack it on the cork board at Krogers,

Gday

Kevin "Hack" King

These people brag about what they do on a daily basis. My parents always told me, "Never do anything you wouldn't want other people to see on the front page of the paper." And I haven't. They made the front page. The public needed to see this article so they are aware of what is going on in our community. Even if I did not know these people, I would feel the same way. A drug dealer is a drug dealer. Period. Regardless of age, race, or gender. And they all should be behind bars so they can do no further harm to the world. If you're the type of person than can look past that, then may God bless you. I do not feel once ounce of pity or remorse for whatever happens to any of them. They are criminals, drug addicts, and drug dealers. Pretty much, they're pesticides sucking the life out of America. The world would, and hopefully will, be a much better place with them behind bars. They lost all right to privacy when they became felons. They don't deserve pity from anyone.

I thought I was the only fool to be up this late.

Then again, I get paid to do it.

Well said my dear friend; however, you failed to mention a few things. First of all, the young lady writes well and appears capable and bright.

Bright enough in fact to cast a “victim of society and not my personal decisions” net and catch at least a few enablers like basmati and Hack. Father Epps can surely not be far behind.

Unfortunately for all of us, especially for her and her unborn child, tough love will not help if she is this astute in bringing out the ‘enabler’ in enough people that she can continue to justify her ‘victim’ status.

Secondly, you should have referred her to Mt. Olive Baptist Church.

On a related note: What does this have to do with the no knock warrant served by APD and the unsubstantiated allegations of that case? I don’t recall the police finding marijuana, crack, powder cocaine, etc. in that case. Nor do I recall the woman being involved in repeated drug and alcohol offenses.

A 17 year old is still under the legal custody and control of a parent. Where is the parent and why does she allow her pregnant teenaged daughter to live with these three men?

This red herring by Hack disturbs me because I recall a true American hero named Pat Tillman who was killed by ‘friendly fire’. Does that implicate me?

I also recall that our soldiers in Abu Ghraib and back at Meli, performed with disregard to human life. Does that mean I too am a murderer, or that you are a murderer with disdain for human life Hack?

I guess I struck a nerve with you. I have respect for you, because you have served our country. This is one issue I disagree with you on.

You have worked very hard to get where you are in life...yes?? It would have been easier to lay on the couch and live off of welfare....yes?? Yes it would have. It would have been easier for me to live off of welfare also. Instead I worked 2 jobs for six years after college before I landed the job I have now. This job pays me enough so I only have to work one job.....which is very nice...and I'm grateful.

I'm sorry, but after a long work week I take extreme umbradge when someone else wants the money I worked hard for. I have worked hard my whole life, and now someone wants to hijack that....someone who has checked out of life....wants my hard earned money.

I guess it does make me callous....and I guess I am.

Taking drugs, hanging out with known drug addicts and choosing to get pregnant by them is just that........a CHOICE! I contend that it is a bad choice. No one held a gun to this young womans head and made her chose these things. She did this on her own, and I take offence that now she wants my or all of our sympathy and support. It is outrageous!

I have one question for you Hack: If I choose to go out right now and rob a bank...wait no they aren't open now....ok a convenience store.... because I need the money....say I lost my job....are going to feel sorry for me??
This person no matter what the age has chosen to commit a crime, and hang out with other criminals....and no I don't feel any sympathy for her at all....I feel used....I feel hijacked....because my hard earned money is going to pay for choices and decisions, and mistakes I would have never made.

It makes me angry when I have to pay for other people's mistakes! I really don't care what happens to people like this women...I just want them off the free train through life.

We don't believe her.

I'm I supposed to feel sorry for the bank robber too? He or she was just trying to make a living.

How about the guy that sells drugs to the kids in school? He's just trying to pay his rent.

What I'm about to say is harsh, but people like that shouldn't be allowed to breed!

The best thing that could happen to the unborn child is to be adopted.

You take the stance that being cruel to a person in a desparate situation is tantamount to not "feeling sorry for" bank robbers and people selling drugs to kids. But we aren't talking about people selling drugs to kids and bank robbers. We are talking about this particular human being. And you have to defend this cruelty because you offered your "applause" to the following comments about this PERSON:

from Enigma:
At ten-percent (typical bail-bondsman fees) you would have spent $700 to get out of jail, Mikey would have spent $1,200 and your baby’s daddy will have to spend $12,000 to get out of jail. Wow, $13, 900! That’s almost enough to pay for labor and delivery, your baby’s daddy’s broken nose, and still have enough to buy some more cocaine, crack, and ecstasy to keep your grandmother in Glucovase or some other medicine for treating Type II diabetes.

From PTC_GV:
"These crackhead clowns make me sick."

From Skyspy:
"We are going to have to pay for these worthless crackheads.." and
"We don't care what happens to you." a particularly hurt-intending barb hurled by Skyspy.

Here is Hack's take on the above comments: Complete and utterly callous bull crap! Absolute BS!

Why were these sentiments not echoed for the crack and coke addicted Noelle Bush, daughter of the former Fl governor?
Is Miss USA, Tara Conner, a "worthless" crackhead?
How about Ted, the Reverend Haggard? Is he?
If you found that the claims were true that our President did community service in 1972 for cocaine use and possession (claims he has never denied), would he become:
A) A worthless coke head or
B) Proof that people, with support and personal resolve, can turn their lives around?

Bad, you can try to defend the comments of these boards if you like, but I find them inhumane! And I'll reiterate, that I wish this family a brighter future, full of hope and people ready to lift them up, not zing witty, BS one-liner razor blades at them.

Kevin "Hack" King

"You take the stance that being cruel to a person in a desperate situation..."

This "person", as you describe them, obviously has no intention or desire to better themselves and will no doubt inflect the same on her, as yet, unborn child.

If you think I should have pity on someone who is going to abuse, mistreat, harm and/or endanger a child, think again.

This country has way to many of this "type" of person that thinks that staying high for as long as possible, while living off of others tax money, is a positive long term goal.

Read the post Could not have said it any better

It is apparent that this situation is ongoing.

Just how much do I, and everybody else, have to pay so this person can keep on keeping on?

P.S. If the unborn child is not removed from this envrioment we'll be paying for that too.

Amen.

That was absolutely classic!

You get a standing ovation for this one!

And thank you very much. It was all I wanted to say but I was too busy WORKING for a living so I could pay my taxes to provide them with a public defender, free baby delivery and food stamps.

These crackhead clowns make me sick!!!!

Go Enigma go, that was awesome!

Rock on, the only problem I have with what you said was the part about paying for this idiot's mistakes. Personally that is the part that really angers me. We are going to have to pay for these worthless crackheads.

You people are f'ing stupid. Fayette County's "cops" are currupt as any. They probably planted the drugs due to the frustration that there were none at the house. Thats how they are. You say they would never hit a woman..HA yeah right, they dont care. You are the one who needs to move skyspy, back to the rock you crawled out from under. Idiot

No drugs at the house??? Why don't you check into Montez Milam's past? He'll be going to prison for sure. He was sentenced 3 years ago to a 20 year prison term for the same thing!!! This ain't their first rodeo.

You need your mouth washed out with soap. I think it was you that crawled out from under that rock.

But at least he deep sixed the skull and cross bones

We are all stupid because we hate crime and criminals? Huh interesting......

So sorry to disappoint...but I'm not the worthless crackhead... soooooo...I'm not moving.