Tweaked annex bid gets PTC kudos

Tue, 01/23/2007 - 5:02pm
By: John Munford

The latest vision for a 379-acre tract John Wieland Homes wants annexed into Peachtree City was met with praise from the Peachtree City Planning Commission Monday night.

Wieland has reduced the number of homes proposed from 540 to 495 by making some of the lots wider, and the company has added more greenspace to the project that would otherwise be developable land, explained Wieland Vice President Dan Fields.

The company has conducted a tree survey to show where significant trees can be saved, including 70- to 80-foot-wide swaths of trees between some lots to provide backyard buffers, Fields explained. Some of those trees will provide shading for golf cart paths that will lead from the homes to the proposed central park area, which would be located across MacDuff from a small retail center for neighborhood-type stores, Fields explained.

The company will also develop an individual grading plan for each lot in an effort to save other trees, a company official said.

The discussion took place during the commission’s workshop session, which means the item was not up for a formal vote. The commission can only make a recommendation to the City Council, which has the final say on whether or not the property is ultimately annexed.

Missing from Wieland’s plan is the development of an adjacent 89-acre tract that Wieland owns and had proposed to build 335 townhomes. But the townhome proposal was rejected by the City Council recently when it voted to deny lifting the city’s multi-family housing moratorium. The parcel is currently zoned for light industrial use.

The annexation plan has 166 acres of open space and parks, Fields said, noting that maintaining the trees “adds value” to the individual lots. Wieland plans prices to run all the way up to the $600,000 range for homes on the larger lots, Fields said.

Wieland will also look into creating a median with trees along portions of MacDuff Parkway and the company wants to put parallel parking spaces along the road to slow down traffic and provide guest parking for the homes that will be lined along MacDuff. Those homes will be accessed by a back alley instead of MacDuff, but while the commission praised the parallel parking, it was noted that the concept will be a tough sell, particularly to the city engineer.

Commissioner Marty Mullin noted that if the parallel parking is “done right,” it could be a traffic calming asset, but only if the road is designed specifically to accommodate the parking spaces.

Peachtree City resident Linda Wojcik suggested that the MacDuff Parkway extension be carved around trees to look like Aberdeen Parkway, which is arguably one of the most picturesque roadways in Peachtree City. Fields said the area where MacDuff is planned doesn’t have many significant trees to save.

“We can find some trees and put them in the middle,” he said.

Fields said the subdivision’s density is now 1.30 units per acre, which is less than Centennial (2.21), Ardenlee (2.05) and Planterra Ridge (1.42) but bigger than Kedron Hills (0.91). Fields said that is in keeping with the city’s comprehensive plan to have development of higher density near the city center of the intersection of Ga. highways 54 and 74, with the development becoming less dense further away from the intersection.

Wojcik said she’d like to see the property be a little less dense, and the city has enough leverage to get more out of Wieland because without the annexation, the land would remain in the county where the company could only build lots with a minimum size of two acres, which likely would be far less profitable.

Planning Commissioner Patrick Staples said it was important to him for the plan to preserve as many trees as possible.

Planning Commissioner Theo Scott said the plan’s golf cart access looked solid.

“I for one applaud you for what you’ve done,” Mullin said. “It’s far better than what you had here.”

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Submitted by johenry on Thu, 01/25/2007 - 12:26pm.

”Planning Commissioner Patrick Staples said it was important to him for the plan to preserve as many trees as possible.” Good boy Patrick, but if they build less homes we’ll save a ton of trees.

“Planning Commissioner Theo Scott said the plan’s golf cart access looked solid.” They actually included cart paths, wow!

“I for one applaud you for what you’ve done,” Mullin said. “It’s far better than what you had here.” What they had before was outragous. Yes, this version is better than outragous, but it certainly doesn’t deserve applause.

What we really get out of the annexation is 990 students without a school to put them in, another 1,200 cars on our roads, and another big drain on our city services. Why are we applauding?

Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Thu, 01/25/2007 - 4:17pm.

One is that most seem happy with what Wieland traditionally does with his developments. 2ndly, I would much rather PTC be handling this property than Tyrone. I do not think it's realistic to just say that neither City would annex this property.

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Submitted by All Smiles on Tue, 01/23/2007 - 9:55pm.

Where are these kids going to go to school? They will be in Peachtree City but no more room at the High School/Middle School.


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Submitted by Enigma on Wed, 01/24/2007 - 9:27am.

They will all be in Fultonville. That's the Fayette/Fulton joint school venture that we are currently building in the entire area. We have almost completed Clayetteville in the north end of the county.


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Submitted by mudcat on Tue, 01/23/2007 - 8:05pm.

Cut the trees down, make the 2-lane road into 4-lanes and create the bypass - which it is going to be anyway no matter how hard you do-gooders and Cindy and Judi and the other lady (Stuart, I think her name is) try to make trees an issue. Cut them down and get some new landscaping growing back so we can start getting some new growth and new oxygen.

We need the bypass or shortcut or whatever it is. Who cares if we have to drive by 300 town homes? I need to save 5 minutes on my commute since I am a very important person.
Meow

P.S. This is parody, I don't want you all to think I am an irresponsible puss.


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Submitted by bad_ptc on Tue, 01/23/2007 - 5:55pm.

The city should plan on MacDuff Parkway being 4 lanes now rather later. That way the houses with on street parking can be incorporated into the design.

Those home owners are going to be upset when they buy those homes and MacDuff Parkway get widened later.

Plan for it now.

You know it's coming.


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Submitted by Robert W. Morgan on Wed, 01/24/2007 - 8:44pm.

The on street parking is hard to do, but not impossible.

Surprising people that their 2-lane turned into a 4-lane is not a smart thing to do - especially when everyone surely knows that McDuff will be a shortcut. It will only take a day or two for the new residents of McIntosh or whatever that new city in Coweta is named to begin using the new McDuff Parkway.

I am not sure I would like to open up McDuff and TDK to 4 lanes, but it actually makes sense from a regional planning point of view.

How we could have prevented it goes back to Fred Brown, Joel Cowan and Doug Mitchell in the 1980's - when none of those pesky Planterra people were around and almost unlimited dollars were flowing from the real developer of PTC (Equitable) and more dollars were available from the State of Georgia. Huge ego's (pick 2) and a lack of resolve (pick one) killed the perfect solution.


Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Tue, 01/23/2007 - 6:05pm.

An Aberdeen Parkway type road. IF it is built 4 lanes, it will be the defacto bypass, and I don't think that is what anybody wants. Access yes, but a bypass is not what is needed.

Your opinion may vary.

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Submitted by bad_ptc on Tue, 01/23/2007 - 6:20pm.

We're going to have to build the TDK bypass to accomplish the exact same thing; keeping the traffic out of the 54/74 intersection.

It makes absolutely no sense to not do the same for MacDuff Parkway that we have to do to TDK for the exact same reasons; keeping the traffic out of the 54/74 intersection.


Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Tue, 01/23/2007 - 6:55pm.

Like I say, you may disagree. I haven't witnessed hardly any delay at 54/74 recently. And with McDuff being only 2 lanes, it would probably only be of appeal to the residents in the West Village. I think that would be best for all myself.

It sounds like you think TDK should be done, I also think it should, but it should remain at 2 lanes MAX.

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Submitted by bad_ptc on Tue, 01/23/2007 - 8:16pm.

Hwys. 54/74 top accident site

"Through November, the intersection with the largest number of crashes in 2006 was the crossing of Ga. Highways 54 and 74, with 60 wrecks, police reported."


Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Wed, 01/24/2007 - 4:41pm.

Those figures do not surprise me at all. In fact, I have never thought it wasn't a busy intersection. I just don't see the need to turn the West Village into a bypass to benefit Coweta residents. That is all I'm saying.

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Submitted by bad_ptc on Thu, 01/25/2007 - 7:01am.

If we can keep a significant amount of *purely commuter* traffic away from the 74/54 intersection it will be better for all.

Bringing ALL of the Coweta traffic through the 74/54 intersection does nothing for PTC. Those people are just trying to get home. They're not stopping at the Starbucks for a quickie so why not get them out of the way for those of us that are.

What should happen is that North Peachtree Parkway should be extended to the west and connect to Fisher Road. From there is should continue on south west and connect up to 34.

There is currently no development and few houses there right now. It's the ideal place to put a 4 lane road. That's probably the best reason why it will never happen.


Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Thu, 01/25/2007 - 4:20pm.

I like your idea of PTParkway going on to Fisher Road. Would involve a crossing over line creek, and someway to get around the Gravel "mine" or exactly whatever is in the direct path of Crabapple at this point. Also, the nice homes on Crabapple probably would not cotton to the idea too much.

It's the crossing of Line Creek or the lack of them that is going to cause this area (Coweta and Fayette) the most choke points in the future, in my opinion.

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Submitted by ptcgv on Tue, 01/23/2007 - 8:11pm.

I don't mean to sound callous, but maybe 2am? 8pm? That intersection is horrible all during rush hour coming and going.


Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Wed, 01/24/2007 - 4:29pm.

At around 5 PM it's not that bad in my opinion. Same for 8:30 AM or so. Maybe I just get lucky on the light. I've never had to sit more than 2 lights at ANYTIME since the intersection has re-opened last fall with all lanes operational.

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Submitted by Spear Road Guy on Tue, 01/23/2007 - 7:59pm.

The last Citizen article on the subject said TDK was the main entrance for the McIntosh Village in Coweta. Where do you think most of the traffic off of TDK is heading every morning and evening? It's got to be the 54/74 intersection.

Vote Republican


Submitted by Yo on Wed, 01/24/2007 - 2:57pm.

yes.. four lanes is great... I love that 4 lanes of Macduff are more important than the 2 lanes on 54 from Fayetteville to Clayton County...

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