Citizen tax group seeks changes to Georgia’s sales tax law

Fri, 01/19/2007 - 5:35pm
By: The Citizen

Douglas County, Ga., Jan. 18, 2007 — The Douglas County Taxpayer’s Coalition (DCTC) is seeking sponsors to a bill that will restrict the way Special Purpose Local Option Sales Tax (SPLOST) referendums are conducted. (Georgia Code 48-8-111)

James Bell, director of DCTC met with the Douglas County legislative delegation, Wednesday at the Douglas County Courthouse to discuss the proposed legislation.

“The bill is pretty simple and straight foreword,” said Bell. “We want to restrict placement of SPLOST ballot referendums to November general ballots only and require the ballot language be specific and list “level one” projects, which can consume 100% of the tax, first with the proposed amount of each project to follow.”

Bell said his group helped to defeat a $145 million SPLOST tax last year and learned counties use carefully drafted ballot language to disguise the true impact of the referendum.

For instance, the 2006 Douglas County SPLOST referendum, for $145 million, listed the controversial “new jail”, a “level one” project worth $87 million, on the last line of a 27 line ballot question while listing the more “popular” issues first.

Bell said there is a need to restrict SPLOST votes to general ballots only, to allow the maximum number of voters to participate in tax matters that affect them.

“The government officials know special elections draw fewer voters and that increases the chances the tax proposal will pass,” Bell said.

Bell points to a straw poll placed on the 2006 primary ballot where 82% of Cobb County Republican voters support this issue.

“This is a matter of fairness,” said Bell. “It is unacceptable to confuse and mislead the voters about tax matters. Tax issues should be decided by the greatest number of voters and the ballot language should be made clear,” he continued.

Bell feels that voters are being fatigued by tax referendums and the additional cost of holding these special elections are unnecessary.

The SPLOST proposal was well received by the delegation and DCTC will be sending the proposal to all legislators in an effort to garner support.


Douglas County Taxpayer’s Coalition (coming soon)
From: James Bell – Director DCTC
404-452-4668 /

January 17, 2007

To: The Douglas County Georgia Legislative Delegation

Dear Legislators,

The Douglas County Taxpayers Coalition is seeking your help in sponsoring a bill to amend Georgia Code 48-8-111 relating to Special Purpose Local Option Sales Tax (SPLOST);

• To provide that SPLOST referendums shall only be places on general ballots in November so as to allow the maximum number of voters to participate in the tax decision making process;

• To provide that “level one” projects shall first be listed first in the ballot language;

• To provide that the amount of estimated revenue of each project shall be listed after each project;

Why is this change needed?

First of all, last year three straw polls were placed on the ballot concerning this issue in Georgia. In Cobb County the Republican Party placed the question on the July ballot and received overwhelming support. 82% of GOP voters approved the measure to allow placement of SPLOST on general election ballots only. We can only assume Democrats, Libertarians and Independents favor this measure also.

SPLOST can serve as a valuable tool to raise needed revenue for capitol improvements of a county. However, last year in Douglas County, officials choose to draft the ballot language in a manner that many voters found to be misleading, confusing, and did not reflect the true nature of the impact SPLOST will have. This confusion may have contributed to the defeat of the tax by the voters.

Since “Level One” Projects shall by law be funded first before other projects can be funded, the proposed projects should be listed on the ballot according to the appropriate designated level of that project and the amount of funds proposed for each project.

Example: The County is requesting the approval of a SPLOST for $150 million dollars. Of which, $100 million is proposed for single “Level One” project such as a “criminal justice center”. However on the ballot, the officials listed the “Level Two” projects first, projects such as – bike paths – sidewalks – equestrian venue. Then the level one project was listed at the bottom of the ballot language as “and a new jail”.

This is clearly an attempt by public officials to hide the more “controversial” issues last while listing the “popular” and less costly issues first.

Requiring counties to list “level one” projects first and listing the corresponding revenues, voters will be better informed as to the true meaning of the ballot question.

We feel this reform measure will benefit all stakeholders and give the voters of this state a more accurate description of the SPLOST ballot question.

It should noted that local governments are advised by resource materials that it is in their best interest to place SPLOST votes on special ballots so that the minimum number of voters participate, usually around 5-8% of voters. We believe it should be the roll of the government to place important tax issue on a ballot where the maximum number of voters participate or about 35-60% of voters.

The citizens need your help in this matter and your support is much appreciated.

If you have any questions, please contact me.

Thank you for your service to people of Douglas County and the State of Georgia.

Respectfully Submitted,

James Bell

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Submitted by mapleleaf on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 5:50pm.

Trickery in staging SPLOST votes. We should support reform there.

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Submitted by mudcat on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 8:29pm.

SPLOST votes should be as pure as the driven snow. What about a sitting mayor who campaigns against a SPLOST in clear violation of State law?

Submitted by skyspy on Sat, 01/20/2007 - 7:37am.

These charges will be dropped just like the last time, you brought phony charges against Steve.

We all have seen this show before, you file phony baseless charges against anyone who doesn't agree with you.

So I ask again wouldn't you 3 be more comfortable in new jersey with the rest of the high density lovers?? You would fit right in, and added bonus, no live plants, or birds or tree frogs to worry about.

Just lot's of raw sewage, and garbage barges with no where to go. I'm telling you, you would fit right in. You wouldn't have to fight and argue to get people to accept your pathetic garbage ideas. You said you were going to leave soon, why not now?? Still have more money to make off of poorly built high density homes?? Wouldn't you make more money in a community that actually accepted your ideas?

ps: one of the things I am pushing for is an ordinance that will ban cats completly from the city. They spread disease. Thanks for reminding us that ordinances are "fluid", we almost had forgotten.

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Submitted by bad_ptc on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 8:45pm.

I only saw "citizen" Steve Brown get some donated cable time.

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Submitted by Robert W. Morgan on Sat, 01/20/2007 - 7:05am.

Why is this ethics charge all you can find to talk about? I guess some of you think something is actually going to happen, but what usually happens up there is they listen to the case, go behind closed doors and dismiss all charges for lack of evidence. If this case gets taken seriously or takes more than 10 minutes, I really would be surprised. Why did this go to the State anyway? We have a local ethics board right here.

Submitted by PTCGA1 on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 8:57pm.

I am not that familiar with the law, other than what I read in the paper, but it appears Brown presented himself as "citizen" - -so what? Again, is this really an ethics issue? A small town mayor expresses his views to 23 people that watch some local channel on a proposed road tax and how it is allocated, and somebody says it is an ETHICS problem?

You see, not being wrapped up in the local politics here, to an unbiased outsider like myself, Steve Brown comes off looking like a victim. This is so damn stupid, it is truly sad. Who is the guy that brought up the complaint? Does the developer community really hate Brown THAT much? I mean if Brown had been pilfering money, using his office for personal gain, sleeping with his secretary, then THAT would be an ethics issue (or criminal), but speaking about a tax on cable TV?!!! This is totally moronic!!

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Submitted by bad_ptc on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 9:27pm.


Them and the mudcat.

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Submitted by mudcat on Sat, 01/20/2007 - 9:32am.

Sure the 4 or 5 people actually involved in development in Peachtree City are upset that he slowed growth when he was mayor, but I don't think they hate him.
Many others who are not developers, don't like him either, but for the most part they are too busy to hate.

The PAC who brought the charges did so in order to influence the election - 2 elections ago. It has taken the State this long to hold a hearing. Now some of the people who were in the PAC do hate him, but not the leadership and certainly not the guy who brought the charges.

Submitted by PTCGA1 on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 8:42pm.

..and the way the money is allocated and apportioned to our city? The guy was our FREAKIN mayor for cryin' out loud!! He may have been wrong, but he was the mayor, and airing a short info spot with his opinions is highly relevant! This "ethics" charge (I read about it today in the local paper) is the stupidest thing I have ever heard of!!! If that is all you developers could dredge up on the guy, then Steve Brown must be close to Mother Theresa in personal holiness!

Meanwhile, your boy Harold the Goober takes money from family members that live in COWETA County of all places, just so he will build them a highway to Millionairesville. Talk about a serious ETHICS problem. Sheesh, give me a break!

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Submitted by mudcat on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 9:04pm.

Where to begin?
The "developer" who "Dredged up the ethics charge" is a decorated and retired Army officer who has voluteered to go back on active duty to defend our country. He also "Dredged up the ethics charge" on behalf of many Peachtree City citizens who thought it was wrong for the mayor of our wonderful city to break the law. Maybe even some law enforcement types and friends of the court also agreed that the mayor's actions violated the law.

Why is it wrong? Well, because it is illegal for an elected official to publically campaign (or even speak out) for or against something that is on a future public ballot. Did you ever hear John DeCotis pushing the SPLOST for schools? No, because he has class. He also obeys the laws.

I guess the fact that you know it was a "short info spot" means that you have knowledge way beyond what was written in the paper today - like maybe you appeared in or helped to write the "short (anti-SPOLST) info spot."

Said spot has a value of $5,000 which your hated Chamber of Commerce was forced to pay for their pro-SPLOST spot.


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Submitted by Basmati on Sat, 01/20/2007 - 6:16am.

In Mudcat's world, citizens have no right to be heard unless they pay for the privlege.

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Submitted by ptctaxpayer on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 10:07pm.

Mudcrap you are very funny. You got all the brains of Carol “Big Box” Fritz and the civic commitment to boot. All you do is repeat what the last DIRECTPAC’er told you to say. As soon as someone challenges you on a point of factual history, you’re devoid of any original thought and beg birdbrain to save you. As to the ethics charge who is your “decorated and retired Army officer who has voluteered to go back on active duty to defend our country.” Isn’t that the same clown who had nothing better to do with his time than to run around with that stupid tee shirt. Surely the Army had to say “thanks but no thanks.” Maybe Sheriff Walking Small will hire him.

Submitted by PTCGA1 on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 9:27pm.

After I read about the stupid upcoming hearing, I googled the story this morning and hit all kinds of interesting blogs/stories about this issue...all covered by this very newspaper (which, by the way, is the DAMN FINEST small community newspaper I have ever seen in my life (and I've lived in over 2 dozen places).

So the complaint filer and I apparently have something in common regarding our military service - - so what? You remind me of the 911 widows that Ann Coulter (my favorite) writes about. They wrap themselves in victimhood so then they think they are immune from criticism. Is the fact that the guy (that brought up so stupid a charge) a military man make it somehow immune from ridicule. Okay, how about this - -my son enlisted in the USMC as soon as the war started - -does that give my point of view anymore credibility (answer: of course not).

I'm telling you, Mr. Mudcrap, you look very bad when you apparently relish something this ludicrous. You are making Brown a martyr.

Submitted by dollaradayandfound on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 9:51pm.

Was she in the World Trade Center when it was hit? Has she made any money on that situation in anyway?
She and Rosie and Ellen, if she is who I think she is, would make a good triumverate to check out that fellow from Florida who liked pages.
Those three own more razors than I ever have in my life total, just to keep the hair down. If we could borrow that big rope used on Saddam we could straighten out such atrocities as Brown's feverish attack upon profiteers.
I kinda agree that the NY widows got somewhat more (one million compared to 2,000) than the Katrina floodouts. We still don't have a total on the disabled Firemen and policemen in NY who no longer work do we? Almost as bad as the number of ambulances carrying MARTA passengers to Grady when they scrub a curb in Atlanta. I suppose comparing Brown's trangressions to those above may come out about even when one thinks about it.

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Submitted by bad_ptc on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 9:43pm.

You may not agree with mudcat's position, that's cool, but be polite and address him/her by their correct name.

You only lower yourself by slandering their name.

Submitted by myword_mark on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 9:36pm.

WOW.... 25 shouldn't be a problem than should it? Do us all a favor and LEAVE!! And that makes you an expert on newspapers too, riiiight!

As for victimhood, no one wraps themselves in victimhood more than you do! We are growing - get over it!

I would also like to challenge you to name the more than 24 places you have lived SaveOurCity, your age and years would lend credibility to your claim.

By the way - although everyone else has already said it; you are not the only one affected by growth and this is not the first time we have had growing pains. I guess the other 24 places you lived didn't have that problem, huh?

Submitted by PTCGA1 on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 9:44pm.

I just counted them up, and was actually over 2 dozen (LOL) was Army and then an engineer. The wife's family goes back in this area to 1840's..

I'll give you the personal data, right after you tell me the world class universities that you earned your physics degrees from...
let's see, you have an A.A. from Hooterville Tech, B.S from Devry, etc..

BTW, your comments several weeks ago about my lack of knowledge in physics were humorous given my undegrad training in the field!

Submitted by myword_mark on Sat, 01/20/2007 - 9:46am.

I have an A.A. from University of Maryland, an A.S. from Gainesville College and a B.S. from University of Georgia. I also hold a M.S. from State University of West Georgia. No Harvard degrees here - just a hard working man with 4 degrees and two businesses (local) who retired twice. I am the first person in my family to ever attend college. I retired once from the military and once from the school system. You may recall this prompted dollaraday to call me a “double or triple dipper” for serving society in its two highest forms. My Masters degree is in Physics, I have an undergrad in Math with a minor in Education. I was a Combat Controller in the Air Force. I was a Physics teacher, and I coached football, wrestling and baseball. I was an Administrator my last three years.

Now, what is again that you do for the community and for a living? What have you done in your life to serve, protect, teach, counsel, and promote prosperity for the good people around you?

Now, list the 24 or more places YOU lived. Then, before you make light of someone elses accomplishments, look in the mirror and examine yourself.

I was an Air Force Brat, spent 20 in the military myself, and have only lived in about 14 places counting my duty assignments. I would like to see the years and places you lived. Back it up.

You are just a whiney little nay saying Chicken Little who thinks the sky is falling and that your own personal interests are all that matters. Get over yourself.

Submitted by PTCGA1 on Sat, 01/20/2007 - 12:08pm.

My little marsupial friend, I apologize for ridiculing your academic background - -I think it is great for enlisted men to work on degrees while they serve, and you earning four is highly exemplary and speaks well about you. Teaching is an honorable profession, and it is great you did this after your AD. I have 2 degrees (one a professional degree) and have been commissioned for 21 years. You are probably 20 to 30 years older than I and probably don't realize the number of moves that happen these days. My moves include quite a few as a kid.

I plan on staying in PTC, and thus my serious concern with the unfolding situation. The people in this town will do the right thing, and the TDK bridge will never be built. Over the next 2 years you can watch and learn how.

Submitted by myword_mark on Sat, 01/20/2007 - 5:51pm.

If you lived in more than 24 places since the 1960's then you would have had to have moved more often than every two years for over 48 years. That didn't happen.

If you are indeed an officer in the military, as I retired as also, then you know very well that most of your assignments are longer than 18 months. It will be interesting to see you try to convince me that you somehow did 12 or more tours of less than 18 months each. Of course that will still leave you 12 more locations you lived to list.

Since you are obviously ignorant of what an actual marsupial is allow me to elaborate: I am not a marsupial nor is my moniker. Perhaps you should 'google' marmoset or tamarins since you are oblivious to the world around you. It may even help expand your microcosm. I would have thought a lady who lived in so many places would have known a monkey when they saw one.

You say you are 21 years commissioned? Then I am probably not much older than you. Ten years service will allow you to be fully vested in Georgia for teacher retirement. I assume if you are telling the truth you are in your mid to late 40’s. I am in my early 50’s.

You have as of yet, failed to tell us what you do. You are quick to belittle and criticize others so spit it out little lady. What do YOU do? I listed my degrees (all four) and occupations (of which I am very proud). I am still waiting for you to list the years and locations you claim you have lived - that will of course total over 24 different places - unless you are a liar that is. What’s the problem – you calling “Home” to get a list?

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Submitted by Tug13 on Sat, 01/20/2007 - 7:17pm.

Military and a teacher! You are entitled to be proud!

Thank you veterans!


Submitted by dollaradayandfound on Sat, 01/20/2007 - 6:21pm.

These shallow arguments about degrees and double dipping aren't of much interest to most of us. Liars are liars, and no amount of "listing" will cure that!

Submitted by myword_mark on Sat, 01/20/2007 - 6:55pm.

We can't all be as interesting and 'deep' as you are dollar.

I was challenged by SaveOurCity, SOC, when she accused me of lying. She took exception to my claim that I had actually graduated college four times in response to one of her sarcastic remarks in a previous post. SOC tends to repeat her assertion whenever she is being told how ignorant and narcissistic she is regarding this community and its growth. I felt it was time to expose my lack of a “Harvard Degree” and expose myself for the ignorant, uneducated, lying moron she pegged me to be. The problem is, she was as wrong about that as she is in her misnomer of my moniker and her lack of understanding the growth of this area. In fact – she doesn’t even know how many places she has lived. It’s almost sad.

I was also criticized by you dollarforacowboy as a "double dipper at least" for being retired both Military and retired from the Georgia Teacher Retirement System. I actually still teach College Physics occasionally so can I just be a single dipper until I actually start drawing the second retirement checks?

Save Our City claims to have lived in over two dozen places since the 1960's. I don't buy it. Do the math. I think it's a lie. I responded to the attacks by her and provided the answers.

Since you too are consistently critical of the military or anyone who works after serving, feel free to share your credentials at will.

By the way, I would bet money that you and Save Our city both spend money in one of my businesses. Think about that – I take your money and use it to help support some of the things you hate the most – jobs, business, growth, and free enterprise.

Isn’t life great!

Submitted by PTCGA1 on Sat, 01/20/2007 - 7:08pm.

It started at Ft Bliss, TX many decades ago, here are the in betweens in shorthand: OA,AA,GF,CSC,DCG, SG, MG, SG, AA,SG,AA,SG, DG, OA, AA, MA, FBV, MA, HA, MBA (2 places), BA, PTC....hah 24 (I was just guessing when I first blogged two dozen, but technically I could count 2 other short duty spots). I owned (not rented) 5 homes before age 32.

I can still bench over 300, and I'm not female. What is your local business...I'll introduce myself sometime.

Submitted by myword_mark on Sat, 01/20/2007 - 7:30pm.

I have been to Ft. Bliss, Texas. I have also been to Ft. Hood, Lackland AFB, Goodfellow AFB, and Shepard AFB - all 5 of those in Texas.

I was at Ft. Bliss for a military exercise that was a part of Red Flag (I think)or a Brave Shield, Gallant Eagle or something.

I was TDY and we certainly cannot count TDYs - Ft. Bliss is NOT normally an 18 month tour, but assuming that for you it was (what was your MOS??), let's go through your list:


Taking out any repetition leaves these 13:

MBA- 2

Now despite my spending over twenty years in, and being at dozens of Army, Navy and Air force installations, I do not know what these abbreviations represent. So, again, let's try it with names and dates for these 14 and then go from there.

Submitted by PTCGA1 on Sat, 01/20/2007 - 8:22pm.

I was not stationed at Ft father was (Air Defense Board assignments are longer than 18 months). I used cryptic notation for the other locations (some are in fact Army posts, some are not) so that you would not be able to know anything else about me..but rest assured they are all real places that I lived in (I think you can gather that an Army brat/son of traveling consulting engineer can live in many places). I did not include the places where I attended school (although I think one of those may be obvious). I did not want you to know what my professional specialty is, in case you are some nutcase (that is, beyond your stupid belief that TDK will somehow profit you). Like I said, tell me your business and I'll introduce myself when I patronize your fine establishment. BTW, I have been to at least a dozen USAF installations...your BOQs are much nicer than the other services.

Let's get back to TDK, shall we.

Submitted by myword_mark on Sat, 01/20/2007 - 11:18pm.

I believe this all started when you called me a liar the first time and said TDK was none of my business the second time, since according to you, I do not live here. Neither of which is accurate and both of which are easily disproved. I very much appreciated the response you received from the other bloggers reminding you that you are not the only person on the planet and that it was indeed ‘everyone’s’ business. Narcissists often have trouble empathizing.

Let me assure you that nothing you say could make me 'rest assured' of anything.

My “stupid belief”, as you so eloquently put it, was never that TDK would benefit me. Although I do think it will help with the continually growing traffic problem, I actually would like to have seen it stay the simple small town it was when my family first came here many years ago (before you and your family came from Ft. Bliss).

I would still contend is that you are a liar about living 24 places and are not man (or woman) enough to admit that either you lied or exaggerated.

Funny you should mention Crypto. My specialties for Combat Control were Weather (TWAC), Satellite Downlinks (GPS), and Crypto (KL14s etc).

Many of us ‘nut cases’ in Combat Control attended dozens of schools while in the Air Force many of which were NASA, Army and Navy schools. None of them were Harvard though.

I didn’t play football in the Air Force but I played in High School near here. I did however go through Paratrooper School, SCUBA training, Hand to Hand Combat Training and Survival Training among other fun filled activities. I worked often with Green Beret, Navy Seals and Army Rangers. I spent time with Marine Snipers, AF Pararescue, the South Korean (ROK) Marines and worked in three different Embassies for 30 days at a time.

I served in the gulf war for my final tour of duty before being discharged in sunny California. The only Continent I have not been to is Australia. I spent the first 42 years of my life as either a brat or on Active Duty.

I am what we call a ‘Mustang’ in the Air Force, that is, I was commissioned while active duty as an Enlisted E-4. I went through what you in the Army would call ‘bootstrap’ (I believe) and went to OCS in Texas. I made E4 in two and a half, and I made O4 in Fourteen. My first three degrees were all courtesy of the GI bill. My Graduate school was courtesy of working two jobs and tutoring after I finished in the Air Force. When I was stationed in Warner Robbins with the 5th Combat Control Group, I had nearly 40 TDY’s during a four year period from 1977 - 1981.

Now you know all you will ever know about me. I still think you are misguided, self-centered, and in for rude awakening.

And now, I'm finished with you and your childish defense of how many places you lived and how much you can benchpress.

You just simply don't impress me in the least.

Primus eo
(Look it up.)

Submitted by PTCGA1 on Sun, 01/21/2007 - 12:18am. now I know you are some loud mouthed, tattooed, Beetle Bailey that lives his Walter Mitty life in the blogosphere. Go get some sleep and rest up for that paper delivery route in the AM! Maybe you can dream of that new route in Coweta County in Mcintosh Village. It will be really easy, as I hear the houses will sit practically on top of each other.

Enough of the Latin, please. I learned all I need to know from Father Mario in high school, and don't need your recycled internet quotations. Smiling

Submitted by myword_mark on Sun, 01/21/2007 - 12:06pm.

For a complete list of MOS codes for the Army, which proves SOC is a liar and an idiot, Click Here.

Had I been in the Army, I assume my MOS in my occupation in Special Forces would be 18A. You’re an idiot SOV. Your husband must be embarrassed. For further MOS related Army codes and degree information, click here.

I really don’t know much about MOS codes since I was not in the Army. I did hear personell ask for soldiers by MOS though. In the Air Force we have AFSC (Air Force Specialty Code).Click Here For Information For The Ignorant Like You

I started out as a 305XX and became a 1C200XX. Your ignorance is embarrassing to all of us who served.

Yea lady, you nailed me. I made it all up, the sky really is falling and you are the Gentleman we train our officers to be. In real life, I actually deliver newspapers in Coweta County, you can stop growth and expansion of TDK the Army doesn't have MOS codes. I wasn’t in the Iranian Desert for Operation Eagle Claw, Kuwait for Desert Storm, and I have never been to Camp Red Cloud or Osan AFB in Korea. I have not been to Murphy’s Dome or Shemya Alaska, or served in an American Embassy. I was not a “Comugator” in the 5th Combat Communications Group in Warner Robbins and I killed the Easter Bunny. I have never been to college and don’t have four degrees. I don’t own three luxury cars or laugh at morons like you who get by on the minimum and finally, I don’t like proving you wrong by imbedding links for all to see that prove you are the whinny little moron we all suspected.

The truth is, you have never lived in 24 places, and we can now subtract your high school years from the timetable which now has you moving more than every 16 months from birth until age 47. Wow, you keep getting older, you moves get more frequent and you look dumber every day. What a dolt.

Just so you can tell your husband, Primus eo isn’t cheap latin. It’s the motto of those of us who kept whiney little Army paper pushers safe to drool over a keyboard. The mere fact that you would insult the motto is a reflection of your lack of respect for REAL military officers.

Submitted by PTCGA1 on Sun, 01/21/2007 - 2:24pm.

Sorry, Mark, I was away...just back from Father John Paul's 12:15 pm Mass at Holy Trinity (very interesting guy...he is a Nigerian Ibo Prince and now Catholic Priest).

Here is a better link than the one that you posted, which crashed anyway. Ask the retired Major that posts on here, and he will confirm Army officers don't use the term MOS - -strictly enlisted.

I have actually had 2 branches. My eldest son is enlisted and thus has an MOS. He has had 3, and the one he has now is very similar to one of your USAF MOSs.

I am on duty the rest of this month, so I may not get to spar with you for a little while. It's been fun. Peace! Smiling

BTW, Father Mario was Portuguese - - the students joked that he spoke 5 languages, none of them English!

Submitted by myword_mark on Sun, 01/21/2007 - 4:17pm.

SOC, I have no idea what the Army has for Job identifiers be they MOS, SOCO, AFCS, or whatever. I told you that in the beginning. That somehow made me a "paper boy" in Coweta County to you.

Again, the Air Force doesn't have an MOS - what we have is called an AFSC.

Submitted by PTCGA1 on Sat, 01/20/2007 - 6:19pm.

..the day Matt Drudge had it posted there. As I said before, my many moves also included those of my youth. I know some military brats that moved 3 times in a single year. I always thought you guys in the USAF had it pretty good with your homesteading. I knew some people that stayed at Maxwell for over 4 years.

BTW, I played noseguard for the Cadets.

Submitted by myword_mark on Sat, 01/20/2007 - 7:42pm.

Can you say Monkey? mon + key, monkey.

Submitted by myword_mark on Sat, 01/20/2007 - 7:12pm.

(and a month if your birthday is in January.)

If you spent four years playing nose guard for the 'cadets', you now have even less time for your moves. That means you are down to "more than 24 places" in less that 42 years (about 504 months). Now, SOC, maybe you should just admit that you either lied or exaggerated.

That is a move for every 21 months since birth (assuming you are 47 years old and born in Jan 1960 - not later) more often still if you are born after January, 1960.

You have lived here how long? We need to subtract that too.

I suppose you could be the first G.I. in history to live in 24 remote tours, hardship tour, and short time permanent duty assignments from birth to age 47 - who got married and had kids in those tours. Wow, thin of how much Uncle Sam spent paying your moves! Naw, I’m kidding, I know it's just bull.

I can't wait to see how you stop construction and expansion of the local infrastructure. You must be a very powerful person!

Submitted by myword_mark on Sun, 01/21/2007 - 12:12pm.

And now, we take even more years off of the time for SaveMyHouseValue's moving timetable.

I am sure that if you go back and see Father Mario, he will help you deal with your short comings )if he didn;t already that is Eye-wink).

Where was that by the way? OG, MA. MB, M-O-U-S-E? or what?

Pretty soon you will have moved every six-weeks for the reamaining years! Wow!

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Submitted by mudcat on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 9:14pm.

One fact that cannot be disputed by anyone is that the ethic charges against Steve Brown, former Mayor of Peachtree City, will be presented to and deliberated by the Ethics Commission of the State of Georgia at 10 AM on Febuary 1, 2007.

What happens after that is unknown, but will be reported by The Citizen and those of us who will be there on Feb.1.

Submitted by skyspy on Sat, 01/20/2007 - 8:03am.

When will the class on frivolous lawsuits be held? Will you or bob be teaching that class?

Submitted by dollaradayandfound on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 9:35pm.

Why Brown's transgression sounds as bad as Dick Cheney interviewing oil company executives to set an oil policy for the USA, doesn't it.
Why, Brown went on there, I hear, and said I'm again it. He can't do that, can he?
I'm sure Dr. DeCotis was against the school SPLOST, he only gave 50 speeches saying what his needs were!
I don't know what all of the Librarians said about the library bond. Bet they were for it, though.
The new police station (although moldy) bond was fought tooth and nail by the cops, I hear. Didn't want to spend taxpayer's money. Would rather operate from a tent like Circ du Soliel.
How could Brown have done such a thing--speaking up for the citizens like that?
I'm just shattered about all the ethics violations here in Fayette County. The jails are full of violators, aren't they?

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Submitted by bad_ptc on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 9:47pm.

but dollar, it's "Cirque du Soleil".

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