You got it all wrong with your bitter words and it appears you believe the residents should not have a voice in shaping the future of Peachtree City. When issues involving growth are presented before the County and City governments there is no advocate for the residents.

I understand city growth will happen and by all means it should.

When a city grows good and strong (residents, government, and business working together) it is a sign of good heath. However, if one of the three were to become overwhelming then the balance is upset and the results are unsustainable by the other two. Next time you drive through an older town look around and you will see vacant buildings. Why are they vacant? They are vacant because rampant business growth was not sustained by the local population.

When a big box moves into an area it leases the property, but when the time comes and profits shrink the big box moves on and leaves an ugly dead shell of a building behind.

What I don’t understand why you think I am a nut cake if I want to have a say in how growth is managed. I am going to be living here for a long time. Although businesses may come and go I want to make sure what they leave behind will be something I can live with.

PTC residents should have a voice in what happens in the city and community. I have no problems with a group of citizens expressing concerns, desires, and ideas regarding their city. In fact, in previous bloggs, I stated that that's exactly what PTC needed. I even suggested tha Bad PTC be 'Da Prez'. Problems arise when a group that is not well informed ( city leadership and members share the blame ),is controlled or heavily influenced by a gruop of single minded, uncompromising ,NIMBY types ( insert SOC, Spear Road guy, jones, johenry ).

PTC had a great impact on Fayette county and surrounding towns during the latter years of DEVELOPEMENT , by PCDC ( the D stands for DEVELOPEMENT ). If not for PTC Hwy 54 would still be two lanes all the way from Fayetteville to Thomas Crossroads. Both 54 and 74 ( north of 54 ) were widened to four lanes with state and county money , just for PTC. In fact, Fayette county during the late 80s and early 90s, was one of the fastest growing counties in the country, thanks to that darn PTC. Many people in PTC ( including the afforementioned ) are very self-centered. They care less what PTCs growth did to others and what monies were spent to support PTC , only that PTC shouldn't have to spend a dime for road improvements for other " planned communities ". Everyone else should just go around the " bubble". If many of these bloggers hadn't moved in , we'd still have our quiet, quaint way of life of old.

Now that I've got that off my chest...let's move on. The was an article in the Newnan Times-Herald regarding the TDK extension. Those of you concerned about TDK should read it. It's still available online at Times-Herald.com. Tell if I'm wrong ( I crack me up ),but, according to the article PTC is already under a DRI to build the TDK extension, as mandated by GRTA, due to the already approved Twin Lakes subdivision in Senoia. Even if McIntosh Village doesn't get built ( and it will ), PTC risks losing state road funds if TDK is not completed before Twin Lakes is built out. The DRI regarding McIntosh ups the width of road to four lanes and requires improvements and lights at Dividend and Hwy 74.

So, it looks to me like TDK was going to have to be completed anyway and now it has to be a four lane. OOOORRRRR, we can just snub our little NIMBY noses ( which are already in position ) at GRTA and pay for all of our future road needs on our own. That's going to be quite a tax burden.

By the way , I do not want PTC to change and I will not profit from the TDK ext., I'm retired from government service . I have in the past, however, made good money by forseeing growth patterns, and if you didn't see this coming you, are indeed in for a shock.

Your full quote: "I have in the past, however, made good money by foreseeing growth patterns." Yes, I'm sure you have good made $$, Mr. Real Estate Speculator. I'll bet your investments in local elections have also been amazingly wonderful. Getting PUBLIC tax money to support your PRIVATE real estate investments is a great thing... if you can get away with it.

You are at least honest in telling us who and what you are. As I blog on this site, the pro-TDK people do at least eventually divulge their financial interests in seeing their highway to Millionairesville built. Some are members of the real estate community, some are builders, and some are small businessmen that want increased traffic counts flowing by their shops and stores.

Good for you! You have been very successful up to this point...now step aside and hear from the 95% of the population that wants PTC to remain a unique PLANNED RESIDENTIAL community instead of a Coweta "on ramp" for your super highway to wealth.

Most of the people can be fooled some of the time, you know. The time for fooling everyone is over.

"Yes, I'm sure you have good made $$, Mr. Real Estate Speculator. I'll bet your investments in local elections have also been amazingly wonderful. Getting PUBLIC tax money to support your PRIVATE real estate investments is a great thing... if you can get away with it.

You have amazing powers. You are able to deduce all of that from a single blog saying that he has made a little money in the past. How dare him!

Women like you really make the country strong. You just keep on fighting growth, development, and be sure you are critical along the way of anyone who makes a buck or provides a job for anyone. You go girl!

Seems you are crying like a little school girl now because your home may lose value. No wonder no one on here likes you.

I think that about sums it up.

Oh my, looks like you have her number wrkhrd4it. You found the pattern.

She attacks everyone personally until she is brutally embarrassed (like Mark did here). That's her MO (Modus operandi in case Father Mario didn't get to it Ms. Save).

I guess it's from living in over 24 places in less than 38 years! That's why she is so dedicated to stoping progress and hates people that make money rather than wring their hands and cry "the sky is falling".

I guess now it's your turn wrkhrd4it. She and dollaraday would make quite a couple wouldn't they!

SOC is the type that won't listen to anyone elses opinion. Anyone that doesn't agree with SOC is a liar and a profiteer. SOC will not offer any viable options with regard to the inescapable growth and how to manage it. It's just SHUT IT DOWN !!!! PROFITEER !!!! LIAR !!! MILLIONAIR!! etc, etc. SOC has no foresight or vision and simply want's everything to stay the same , just like when he/she moved here. Well SOC, things, they are a changing . You can manage it and try to shape it into something you're comfortable with, or you can pop in and out of your hole shouting Liar!!! PROFITEER!!!etc and have no real impact. It probably makes you feel better though, huh.

I have learned it's always better to tell the truth, keep a level head, and listen to others. It appears you can do none of these. Liars like yourself think everyone is a liar. That's how you rationalize your actions. Everyone on this blog is lying, so I'm (SOC) not doing anything wrong. Well , you are wrong. Calling me a profiteer and developer just because I had the good sense to invest in real estate is dishonest, and that's the same thing as a lie buddy.

I live here. My kids go to school here. I attend church here. I probably have much more to lose than you do if PTC turns into crap ( which it is not ). I simply disagree with you . Now , stop crying and pounding the floor like a 2 year old and sling some more insults if it makes you feel better.

Saveourcity is way too immature to be a woman. Seems as if he has one theme - profiteering is bad and all these hateful accusations play to that theme and are motivated by jealousy. Maybe he bought a house in the wrong area or perhaps his real estate agent made more than he did the last time he sold a house. Or maybe he's one of those who knows everything, did not use an agent to save money and now lives near an industrial park or airport.

Who knows for sure - all we do know that SOC is a pitiful soul who can't measure up in a society that worships the almighty dollar.

wrkhrd4it: I called you a "Real Estate Speculator" - - which you said means I called you a "Liar" - - if YOU say so, LOL!!

I also said you were honest in letting everyone know you are in real estate. You probably do have more to lose "if PTC turns to crap" than I, but apparently you also have a LOT TO LOSE if you don't get your TDK Highway built (own some land in Coweta near Line Creek, old boy?). As the old-timers used to say, "the stuck pig screams the loudest."

There are MANY honest hardworking people in real estate and land development, and then there are THOSE THAT TRY TO MANIPULATE local government to steer PUBLIC TAX DOLLARS to build themselves infrastructure to their (basically landlocked) undeveloped land ("PRIVATE GAIN" for you ethically challenged).

WRKHRD4IT said "By the way, I do not want PTC to change and I will not profit from the TDK ext., I'm retired from government service."

Translated by SOC that is : "I also said you were honest in letting everyone know you are in real estate" and "As the old-timers used to say, "the stuck pig screams the loudest."

If you can all figure that out let me know. I do know this: No one screams louder than SaveOurCity that they want to stop growth in and around PTC. Maybe when she gets a job with a daily commute, she'll stop "screaming like a stuck pig" and just go back to being a "pig stuck" in traffic.

I'll go to the meeting and listen carefully - just like I did at Direct PAC. If the group has a noble purpose and decent leadership (like Direct PAC, ECCA, SCT and Friends of Tom) then I will quietly donate some significant money and fade away, as I have done before.

However, if they can't agree on the problem or propose a reasonable solution, I will probably insert myself (or a close ally) into the group as an agent provocateur. The danger of a group like this is that they can spawn a single-purpose candidate for political office and when that person gets elected he wastes everyone's time tilting at windmills.

This group is almost certainly too little too late, but should be watched closely to be sure it is not just a socialistic enterprise to enhance someone's political ambitions.

Bad_ptc, you are correct that PCCA is a small unfunded group that is seemingly lost in any battle with the big $$$ boys. But don't think for a moment that such a group cannot become a major power in this city. I think this group could grow into a major voice for the average citizens (e.g., those that aren't making money off of TDK).

I think we are about to witness a new era in PTC. Let us pray so, anyway!

...for winning the lottery.

Direct Pac had almost 200 people and $100,000 to begin with and what did they accomplish? Nothing at all and the money is gone.

For the record, Direct Pac gave $0 to Logsdon. Check it out. Public record. brown clown has the 411.

And, back to the subject, no one except Pathways and the airport will make any money off TDK - at least no one in PTC.

What makes you think that PCCA - 10 tree huggers with no money (that they will actually donate) can make a difference? Show me. Sounds a little bit like Air America.

flea hotel, of course there is no "public record", that's why it is called money-under-the-table. Duuuuhhhhh!

You thought you and your friends (the developers/home builders/mortgage brokers/real estate agents) were going to have an easy ride, didn't you little buddy? You thought that a heretofore apathetic population in PTC would roll over for you so you could have your way, laughing on your way to the bank. Guess what, catnip head - -some people with a hell of a lot more intelligence than the shmuck candidates you offered up are about to come out of the woodwork. You have angered an entire city, and got your hand stuck in our back pocket while you tried to pick it!! Keep thinking what you want, but prepare for some pretty amazing stuff from the good guys.

So did you form this group save our city? Why do you think that everyone against you is a profiteer or involved in real estate? I'm not really against your views-i just don't like you and how you come across on here. You've got a one-track mind. Is there nothing better to complain about and improve in PTC?

quit whining

Relax with all the catnip head stuff. Geez.

Do you really think you can delay growth any more than the city already has?

You are in for such a rude awakening. It’s almost… well, sad.

We all learned about your "escaping" from this beautiful city to a new location. Enjoy your new abode, but please leave PTC issues to those of us that live here, thank you. I have no desire to tell people in Senoia, Turin, Sharpsburg, etc. how to live, so you should not concern yourself with our city.

How dare you comment on happenings in Fayette county. Just because as a Fayette County taxpayer(and Fayette county taxpayers will fund the TDK construction) and you probably still have business interests in PTC or nearby, it seems that you ( and I ) don't gualify to comment on these blogs.

And... I think you are dead on with regards to the rude awakening. Yep, Coweta is going to grow, as is Fayette county. Have you seen what's going on between PTC and F'ville, and what's proposed? Senoia just approved another 150 home subdivision. Coweta will add huge commercial and residential developements in Sharpsburg and all the way along Hwy.34.

Some people have such short memories. Hey, it was only one year ago that 54/74 was complete gridlock. I was up there a couple of days ago and the westbound lanes on Hwy 54 almost backed up to Hwy 74 again. Hwy 54 won't get widened again any time soon if ever. The commercial buildings are way too close to the road to widen it. Soooo.... let's see, shut down TDK and then in less than 5 yrs, you'll have complete gridlock again. The West village will be built, McIntosh Village will be built, Twelve Parks will be built and on and on. Then, try to revive TDK. That will take another 5 to 10 years. Hwy 154 won't get widened for probably 15 to 20 yrs. What you'll have is mass gridlock. Express bus will not have any noticable affect, and light rail will have to have terminals, parking lots, and mountains of gov't red tape, so it won't happen for 10 to 15 yrs.

Four lane TDK, make a nice 4 lane out of Crosstown(like P'tree Pkwy) 6 lane 74 from 54 to I85 improve the 7/I85 interchange. I think that's about the best you'll get anytime soon. Then learn to be patient, just like the folks in Roswell( Ha Ha ). Our property values will increase as long as crime stays low and the schools are good, just like Roswell. Besides, the real threat to PTC is not from growth and bad ole Coweta, it's the very real threat from Clayton and So. Fulton. The criminal element is here and it has nothing to do with growth or roads.

Well, that's enough for today. Guess I'll sit back and enjoy the fireworks from those all the " build a limited access road around my town please " bubble people.

I like your fantasy about handling the TDK and other development traffic. Let's see what your fantasy included:

"Four lane TDK, make a nice 4 lane out of Crosstown(like P'tree Pkwy) 6 lane 74 from 54 to I85 improve the 74/I85 interchange."

I think we could get the necessary R-O-W from PTC to I-85 and widen Highway 74 to six lanes for about $40 million. The new upgraded Highway 74/I-85 interchange will cost about $25 million. We can 4-lane Crosstown, Robinson Road, and Peachtree Parkway (north of 54)..all for about $30 million (includes purchase of R-O-W). TOTAL BILL=$95 million. Throw in another $5 million for misc. improvements to collector streets.

OR, we can CANCEL TDK extension and spend NOTHING!!

The I85 interchange already needs to be reworked as does Hwy 74 north of Hwy54.I said nothing of widening P'tree Pkwy and Robinson Rd., you did. And as usual, your tactic of grossly over exagerating your figures is backfiring. You simply cannot see the inevitable. Guess that comes from having your head stuck in the sand ( or elsewhere ).

I don't care what you do, I won't be the one sitting in gridlock. Let's check back in about 5 yr.s and see who's right.

And except for the Crosstown four laning (I think 2012), these other projects are not even on the long range plan (TIP in FHWA parlance). You TDK Profiteers love to change the subject, TIME AFTER TIME AFTER TIME. It is getting REALLY OLD. Take your fog generator and go pack it in your garage, right next to those real estate signs with your smiling mug (or is right by your mortgage broker's starter kit?).

TDK is a DISASTER for the PEACHTREE CITY. Get over it, you and your ilk have been outed.

"I have no desire to tell people in Senoia, Turin, Sharpsburg, etc. how to live, so you should not concern yourself with our city." Is that so?? Well, why then have you been concerned with the development that isn't even in your county?? That's ALL you talk about! Hypocrite.

quit whining

I always enjoyed the fact that an aging pilot (bad prostate and all)would choose a large flightless bird as his avatar!! Bring it back - -I liked it!!

Actually, all I blog about is TDK. That is all I want to write about, since it is THE cancer that will destroy the unique RESIDENTIAL character and quiet nature of this "planned" community. I'm a free-market, fiscal conservative, Republican, but I don't support the use of PTC tax money to build a road to enrich a few Coweta land owners, area real estate agents, concrete and building supply trades, and mortage brokers. This is the very definition of corruption...PUBLIC money for PRIVATE gain. There is no City of Mcintosh at present, but we are using our tax money to allow it to happen. This is simply WRONG!!! The fact that Harold Logsdon got money from the Coweta family that owns the land is simply incredible! Harold, ever hear of ETHICS?

The City of Mcintosh wouldn't be so bad if it was to be part of PTC (as our 6th village) and in our county. Then at least we would get the sales and property tax to offset the headaches of 50k vehicle trips per day coming through here. Also, the town would be made to comply with our low density development standards, and thus the area would be much better off. I would have no problem with PTC growing in this manner.

And..I'm not old (not even 30) and my prostate still works great. I just think you should direct your fiery attitude at fixing the problem. I hate traffic and high density shopping areas just as you do, but they are here to stay. Why not make our infrastructure able to handle the influx? Think of it this way-if I-85 through Atlanta was just a two-lane road, would traffic be better or worse? You aren't going to stop growth by not building a road-it's not a case of "if you build it they will come." It's more like, "If you don't build it, we're coming anyway."

quit whining

What happens in Fayette County affects us here in Coweta County. I do a lot of my shopping in Fayette County, and when your county grows, it can make our county grow... I'm just saying...

SouthernBelle, GRACE is a VIRTUE

If development is in the future, make it fitting for us...PTC needs more unique "big boxes"... why not a Whole Foods market...Kroger Marketplace, Trader Joes, or even a Costco. What about a free standing Macys? We do not need what NeMorUnionVille already has. Some nicer chains like Ruth Chris, Houstons or PF Changs... please do not make the 8th nicest place in the US into "anyplace usa"...