Robert W. Morgan, please say you were coming off a hangover when you wrote “if Rockaway and 54 are crowded with cars coming from Coweta County - that is their problem - not ours.”

How in the world can the huge traffic snarls caused by those Coweta cars not be our problem? We are going to have big problems!

When it comes to TDK, you are on the developer side of the fence. They have the same mentality: Build it and run because it's not our problem. How do you think Henry County got so bad?

Vote Republican

How did Henry County get so bad, you ask.
Easy. They elected a bunch of anti-growth buffoons as county commissioners who promptly vetoed many projects approved by their predecessors and put in an illegal building and development moratorium (sound familiar Steve Brown?). Then the ineviable legal backlash from Greater Atlanta Homebuilders Association - which was funded by a multi-million dollar settlement with DeKalb County for the same thing about 5 years earlier. HBA's lawsuits resulted in a judge and jury zoning land much more liberally than any county officials would have (are you keeping up with this Tyronese leaders?). Then people like Tim Jones and Jay Knight and Steve Been had a free reign to build their crackerboxes at will with no negotiated road improvements or land donations to the school board.

Then everyone is surprised that the schools are crowded and traffic is unbearable.

That's what happens when the anti-growth crowd gets in power. It begins when Phylis and Dennis complain about density. It continues when liberal do-gooders or single issue anti-growth candidates get elected to city council or county commission instead of lawyers (well, there are a few good ones), business people or natual leaders and problem solvers.
meow

Spear, I thing the dead guy was referring to the Coweta side of both roads.

I could be wrong.

I appreciate Mr. Morgan's comments; however, either I can't read a map or Mr. Morgan didn't understand my comment about the 4 laned Sandy Creek and Tyrone/Palmetto Road. These are the roads that were referenced! They run north of Hwy 54 and Tyrone/Palmetto road runs through Tyrone, adding to an already well used access to Interstate 85. If you remember about a year ago, Pulte Homes attempted to build a senior housing development on Sandy Creek (behind the hospital). They failed, but the land still exists. This route will provide a direct route to Hwy 74, which is already crowded (try accessing Interstate 85 from Hwy 74 some workday morning). Chicken little? Maybe. Seeing the writing on the wall? Absolutely

He was talking to the cowboy about TDK and he's right - 4 lanes has no chance at all.

But you bring up an interesting past non-decision by Dunn and Wells and probably Pfiefer. That being their unwillingness to even listen to Pulte's plans for Sun City Peachtree (now being built in Spalding County - of all places). Not only did we lose out on a great project for seniors, with fewer cars on the road and no kids in our schools, but as you point out - the land is still there. Still there and within spitting distance to Fayetteville's sewer. Since we all know sewer means density, guess what happens next?

Yep, cookie-cutter houses by Rolader or one of those other great craftsman. Traffic, kids in schools, more retail to support their needs - all of that because of Dunn and Wells arrogance.

Maybe Peachtree City will turn Levitt down and they can move to Pulte's old site near the hospital. That's all that will save us from a very poor planning decision.

Jack and Eric please pay attention.
meow

I beg to differ! When Mr. Morgan titled his blog "Loopie Chicken Little" I would be less than bright if I didn't assume he was talking to me. Anyway, a small point! The problem is all this building is doing nothing but destroying why we came to Fayette County; i.e. a semi-rural, small town environment. I am a senior and I have no desire to have my little acre and its surroundings decimated, our water supply polluted, our trees felled,and our roads more crowded, all permeated by further growth promoted by greedy developers and short-sighted politicians.

You mean 4+4 or do you mean 8+8?

Some folks call 2 on a side a four lane and some call it a two lane.... just curious as to which 8 you mean.

The quantity of lanes in a road is not nearly as important as how many intersections with traffic lights they have, instead of overpasses.
Can you imagine just how much better the traffic would be at the 54/74 intersection if there were no traffic lights, just an overpass for one of them, and exit lanes?
Another case of the retail lobby (developer again) wanting traffic directly by their stores.
They don't give a rat about millions of hours of wasted traffic jam time and the excess exhaust smoke generated---just rent. Our elected reps let them for donations and favors.

...you may get it!! From a traffic capacity and transportation efficiency standpoint, you are correct about that overpass ("grade separation" for highway engineers) at 54/74. For that matter, if 74 were a denied access "interstate" design, then we could probably move all of the projected traffic increases, including the tens of thousands of cars being routed directly into PTC from new City of Mcintosh.

BUT, as has been demonstrated numerous times, interstate/freeway type roads and interchanges can potentially damage a community. They physically DIVIDE neighborhoods, DESTROY integrity and cohesiveness, and invite crime (criminals love the easy-in-easy-out scenario).

Don't get me wrong, I REALLY love our interstate system and think it is truly one of the greatest aspects of America...and I support building many MORE interstates and freeways - - we need them. But if they are designed in the wrong place (especially right down the middle of a small residential community or through established neighborhoods adjacent a downtown area), they may have serious UNINTENDED consequences. A freeway needs to be used around cities or in commercial/industrial areas, not right through residential areas (if at all possible). A freeway in PTC would also bring significant noise to the whole city, not to mention the air pollution. We would become East PTC and West PTC.

Hey, SOC..when are you going to give it up? This thing is done and you lost your battle. It's a stale issue. Don't you have anything better to complain about?

quit whining

Maybe she will take your advice. I think we are all sick of her whining.