Board to vote on attendance lines Monday

Fri, 11/10/2006 - 4:45pm
By: John Thompson

Late Friday afternoon, the Fayette County Board of Education released its agenda for Monday night's agenda and a vote on the controversial attendance zones is scheduled.

School spokesperson Melinda Berry Dreisbach confirmed the item was on the action agenda for Monday's session.

While the item is on the agenda, there is no guarantee the board will take action, but a final vote could occur Monday night.

The meeting starts at 7 p.m. at the board headquarters in Fayetteville.

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Submitted by vohledad on Tue, 11/14/2006 - 3:43am.

I've seen school districts re-draw lines. This is followed by countless petitions and passionate appeals at school board meetings. Every time it all ended the same way, the board did what they determined to be best for the community and it was over in a few weeks.

The fact that this group comes up with one bad proposal after another (unfortunately, not uncommon) and then completely caves and tables the idea till next year is indicative that they have very poor leadership skills. I still can't believe they just floundered.

Submitted by RRGroup on Mon, 11/13/2006 - 9:41pm.

I got called into work, does anyone know what happened at the meeting tonight?

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Submitted by cruiserman on Mon, 11/13/2006 - 10:59pm.

As you undoubtably know by now, your group was voted back into Booth. There was a small correction to the map on the north end of PTC. Maple Road had been mistakenly placed at Flat Rock but that mistake was corrected and they will remain at Booth. There also was the Burch Road Group that goes to Cleveland that were mistakenly NOT sent to Bennett's Mill and as they requested, they were sent to Bennett's Mill.

The vote went 4 to 1 with Marion Keys objecting in the strongest of terms and wanting to scrap the whole plan and start over.


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Submitted by bad_ptc on Mon, 11/13/2006 - 5:54pm.

"A citizen who wishes to be placed on the agenda at the regular business meeting should contact the superintendent or board chairperson 10 days prior to the meeting."

As this is listed as a "Regularly Scheduled Meeting" and it was announced Friday night, how can parents get on the agenda?

Just asking.


Submitted by swmbo on Mon, 11/13/2006 - 10:07pm.

This business of telling people they can only get on an agenda by contacting someone well in advance is an illegal attempt to pre-screen (and prohibit) the public from being heard by their representatives. If you ask anyone how to get on an agenda they'll shrug their shoulders. If you contact someone in advance, you'd better do it in writing, sent by certified mail and retain a copy.

FCBOC has a rule that you cannot discuss anything that is on the meeting agenda. So, the key is, if you don't want the tax paying constituents to speak on a subject, you just put it on the agenda the very first time you want to address the issue. That way, the public never gets a chance to be heard and they never get enough notice to ask for an opportunity to be heard. It also gives politicians an opportunity to misrepresent how many of their constituents contacted them about the issue and what the constituents had to say about it.

The only way those folks will learn is on the defensive end of a law suit . . . or the losing end of a re-election campaign.

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Submitted by Lego on Mon, 11/13/2006 - 4:50pm.

... a friend told me they were able to get a hard copy of the Agenda the staff is trying to keep the public from seeing. Number nine on tonight's agenda is "Items Requiring Action by the Board". Section A is "Approval of High Schools and Middle Schools Attendance Zones for 2007-2008". I predict Sweat and Campbell will try to cram this mistake down our throats and hold our nose until we swallow.


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Submitted by cruiserman on Mon, 11/13/2006 - 5:04pm.

where are you guys?

Less than two hours before a public meeting and no agenda?

This thing stinks to high heaven.


Submitted by fishoutofwater on Mon, 11/13/2006 - 5:40pm.

http://www.fcboe.org/board/docsagendas/2006/agenda_111306.htm

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Submitted by cruiserman on Mon, 11/13/2006 - 11:01pm.

It was not on the web site at the time of my 5:04 p.m. posting.


Submitted by maggie on Mon, 11/13/2006 - 8:34am.

This whole redistricting has been handled very poorly by the FCBOE. Please remember this when they are up for re-election in 2 years!

They are putting the cart before the horse in redrawing the middle school lines now. We are going to add 2 elementary schools soon and this will have to all be readdressed. I think the logical process would be to locate the new elementary schools ( or school, if we can only afford one), locate the new high school, then redraw the lines for all three. Right now we are doing this randomly and we won't get the best results.

Next time the FCBOE redraws the lines, who knows which neighborhoods will be taken out of their community.

Submitted by Lakey on Mon, 11/13/2006 - 12:41pm.

Please consider the fact that the redistricting committee and not the members of the board has drawn the current plan. The administration is responsible for the construction of the Bennett's Mill Middle School (aka: "The school without students"). in an area which hasn't had the population growth originally projected. The BOE is unhappy with the bad decisions made by the Administration. The BMMS school is going to be ready next year and someone is going to fill it. However, our elected officials (FCBOE members) are smart enough to know that redistricting high school lines based on previous bad decisions by the administration is a non-starter. Why would they commit political suicide to cover for a bad plan they did not draw? Our FCBOE should table any redistricting of high school lines. Let's see if there is going to be a need for a sixth high school, where a sixth high school should be located, or whether we should add on to an existing high school. The only hasty decision that should be made on a bad plan is to reject it.

Submitted by RT Tugger on Mon, 11/13/2006 - 1:17pm.

the construction of Bennett's Mill at the site recommended by the adminstration? Are they just rubber-stamping the bad decisions of the administration? Isn't part of their job to actually look at the data and make sure the adminstration's recommendations are supported by the data? I agree that the bulk of the blame for the bad plan lies with the redistricting committee, but it's the BOE who can reject the plan and tell them to start over. The BOE should reject the entire redistricting plan, including the middle school lines as proposed. Those lines are also based on faulty data (e.g. 1,800-home subdivision that may not happen, according to the BOE's consultant).

Submitted by RT Tugger on Mon, 11/13/2006 - 9:04am.

but I don't think much logic is entering into this redistricting project. Instead, we've seen favors handed out to protect select neighbhorhoods and developers. The problem is, they have a new middle school ready to go, and somehow they've got to come up with a few hundred kids to send there so they can justify building it where they did. They are in a bind, and they're going to have to re-draw the middle school lines.

Submitted by makijo on Sat, 11/11/2006 - 7:17pm.

Heard board will put vote off til 2008. Glad to here they are stepping back and rethinking.

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Submitted by cruiserman on Sat, 11/11/2006 - 8:23pm.

The vote for the middle school lines, the vote for new elementary school sites or for expanding existing and building a new High School?

Until 2008 (that's like 14 months from now for the 2009 school year) or after the first of the year, 2007?


Submitted by makijo on Sat, 11/11/2006 - 9:31pm.

The person who told me was a teacher at FCHS. She said middle school lines would go ahead as planned. High school lines would be tabled til 2008 (sorry to not be more speciifc with the timeline) which in turn would put off any discussion of a new highschool. I did not know of any new elementary schools. I guess we'll find out for sure Monday when they meet.

Submitted by truth monger on Sat, 11/11/2006 - 7:55pm.

I heard the new maps have changed. I've heard that the neighborhoods on Robinson Road have been tweaked back into Booth. Has anyone seen this and if so where can I find the redrawn maps.

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Submitted by Lego on Sun, 11/12/2006 - 6:20pm.

IMHO the board will not vote on Monday night. Reason: a "tweak" in the map boundaries without making the changes public then voting on it with no time for public comment would be political suicide for every board member. If there is a vote at the next meeting it will be a unanimous "NO" on the original proposed boundaries by the committee so they can start clean with a new proposal. BTW... I looked on the web site about an hour ago and can't find the agenda posted yet.


Submitted by justhafax on Tue, 11/14/2006 - 12:09am.

They move about 500 kids out of over 21,000? I bet there are 20,500 who think FCBOE did a good job. (Except of course the openly racist contigent from Northwest Tyrone lobbying for part of Flat Rock/Sandy Creek's boundaries to be shifted to Fayette Middle/Fayette High.)

Submitted by thrownundertheb... on Mon, 11/13/2006 - 2:37pm.

The vote is on the agenda for tonight, which implies there were no significant changes to the map. They may have tweaked it, and that's politically ok as long as the neighborhoods that were tweaked were neighborhoods that were rezoned in the proposal. Taking the Robinson area back into Booth makes them heroic. What they can't do is make a change that would blindside a neighborhood that was "safe" in the proposal.

Submitted by fishoutofwater on Sun, 11/12/2006 - 8:09pm.

they haven't posted the agenda yet. That way, it's much easier for them to fly under the radar.

Well, the agenda is on the web site, finally. The meeting is tonight.

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