Very sorry to hear of the loss of your friend. It's sad that his ex-wife didn't think about the consequences of her actions because now the poor daughter has no home or parents. What will happen to her? Are there any relatives that will take her in & give her the "solid family environment" that every child deserves? She'll be in my thoughts & prayers.

Very sorry to hear of the loss of your friend. It's sad that his ex-wife didn't think about the consequences of her actions because now the poor daughter has no home or parents. What will happen to her? Are there any relatives that will take her in & give her the "solid family environment" that every child deserves? She'll be in my thoughts & prayers.

Kudos to the Officers out in the streets of PTC, its just a shame that Chief Murrey can't trust them. Next time that you have someone break into your house and have to go to the Police station to get a copy of the Police report be careful of Miss Manners working the desk and don't carry CASH! It seems that of all of the public offices in PTC, the PTC Police station will not accept cash for payment of reports. I went in to get a report and was treated very rudely by the young lady working the desk.( I felt like I was bothering her by asking for a copy of a report ) As a tax paying citizen of this city (17 years) I don't feel that you should be treated rudely by a city employee. When she returned with the report I was told that the charge was $5.00, I pulled out a $5.00 bill and was told very shortly that the PTC Police dept. dosn't accept cash for payment.(Check of Money order only) It clearly states of the front of U.S. currency "This note is legal tender for all depts, public and private". I called the Mayor about this and got the usual song and dance number, don't know anything about it but I will find out and call you back.(That was 2 months ago) I am very conncerned about a Police chief that cannot trust (supposedly the most trust worthy people in our city) his own officers with $50.00 petty cash.

Just for your reference, the police department didn't make the policy of no cash-the city council did. It's not about not taking cash, it's about following policy-I'm sure even at your job You have to follow policy. As for Miss Manners-are you sure YOUR tone, YOUR attitude and YOUR snide comment about her not being a trustworthy employee wasn't what caused her to be not nice? Could it possibly have been YOUR bad attitude and rudeness that caused that reaction? The secretaries at the police department are public servants, are not police officers, and are NOT door mats. They try to give the same respect that they would expect. That doesn't mean they get paid to listen to people demean them, the city they work for and the officers that work so hard to protect YOU. To give you, proud resident of 17 years, (who was probably all sweetness when told check or money order and meant the "not trustworthy" comment with the utmost respect)the benifit of the doubt, maybe the secretary was having a bad day or was treated poorly by someone else. That doesn't excuse rudeness but we ALL have bad days. Maybe, at the same time, YOU should reflect on your own behavior and attitude. Maybe, just maybe YOU were the one in the wrong. Just a thought

This does seem like a very wierd policy, the sheriff's dept will only accept cash when you go to pay for tickets. What gives?

I agree the girls at the front desk are definitly affronted when any citizen comes into the police station for any reason.

But the officers and the detectives are first rate.
I have only met one or two who are truely irritated by the paperwork property damage and theft causes.(not irritated at the satanic worthless brats that cause the damage,... mad at you for reporting it...the audacity ...what are you thinking, unbelievable that you would be upset, the nerve that you want it stopped, and you want their worthless waste of clean air parents to pay???)

The only other time I have seen a very nonchalant attitude was when the chief was briefing the city council about the molotov cocktails being throw at senior citizens homes. His attitude was appalling at best(I can't tell you what I'm really thinking here without giving Cal a stroke). Use your imagination.(and it's not nice)

Before your mouth over loads your butt again maybe you should do some checking. It has nothing to do with trust of the Chief when it comes to taking cash. The woman at the front desk are not cops by the way and and are trusted city employees. It is a city policy not to take cash. If not taking your cash because it is city policy is they reason you think someone is rude, get a life and stop thinking you are special because you live in the city. As for being rude, well I bet if I was to ask the girl at the desk or the Major I bet they would say you were the rude jerk. I base this on your blog and your attitude. Just because you live in PTC 17 years does not give you the right to abuse city employees. Go get a checking account they are free. How about put your name on your blog so the police officers can say how they were treated by you. GET A LIFE !!!!!!

Your cash is not good here, even if you have the correct change! This reminds me of other city and county offices who despise the public demanding services from them. The cash thing is just one stupid rule. Others are the hours open sometimes. If you need to see many of these people, you must take off from work because they close early, have no night hours, have no week-end hours, and take all of the holidays for their benefit, not ours. Not just a few at a time, all of them at once. I once asked about some better signage at the old courhouse and was told, "we all know where everything is, we don't need signs, they cost money." Also, tried to pickup some stolen property at the PTC police station once and was told they were only open for that an hour a week and that wasn't the hour. There were numerous people there! No wonder some are hateful with them.

You know what, every word out of your mouth is the word of a troubled human being. I am sure everyone can see you do not have a truthful word in your whole body. Put your name on your next blog so you can be exposed for the liar you are.

Do you really have a big gun? We may need to come and get it to prevent a slaughter caused by your breakdown. If you will go to the emergency room, carrying your big gun, unloaded, and lay it down on the table and ask for immediate help, I'm sure they will help you out quickly. No, better still, go to any police station at shift change and do the same thing, unless of course you work there, and you will get better results, I'm sure. I can't explain why people go to work as public servants, and almost immediately put a chip on their shoulder. It is part of the job to take crap from citizens who are as stressed as you seem to be.

To dollaraday...

Albert Einstein:
Great ideas often receive violent opposition from mediocre minds.

Hmmmmmmmm......it sounds like personal experience......and it sounds very, very familar.

biggun why don't you out yourself.....sounds like some anger managment issues? Why don't you go round up some worthless teenage brats in this city and take it out on them, instead of the bloggers here?.

Most of our officers are first rate and should not be judged by a few having a bad day. No matter how irritating their lack of concern can be at times, we still need them more than they need us.

It would be nice if they did care about property damage and theft, but you can't train someone to care, they either do or they don't.

Most of the seniors in my neighborhood are too afraid to call the police because they(the officers) are young and they don't think any of the crimes they have suffered will be taken seriously.

Some of these have been serious crimes like arson, and one couple who had someone break into their garage at 2:30am and didn't call the police, because "they didn't want to look like foolish old people". Others have not called the police about property damage because they think they will be retaliated against by the police for generating paperwork. They think the cops here will trump up phoney ordinace violations against them to get back at them for calling. They are from New York City, but still they have a real fear.

My point is no matter how irritating, or how trivial the property damage seems they could at least pretend to be on the side of the property owner.

I have had one experience where the parents of the kids who did damage to my property said they wanted to make amends right away but the detective in charge told them he didn't trust the other person(meaning me the victim) and actually encouraged them not to come forward with restitiution, until the court date. They did pay me for the damages anyway,(without going to court) which I appreciated.

There is good and bad with everything, and mostly our officers are good. One bad one spoils the whole bunch.

Are officers and clerks now considered "exempt" from overtime pay since they are "management" types? Or, is this a way to pay overtime to increase salaries? Is the OT required or voluntary? Personally, I don't think officers should be paid by the hour. They should be paid by the year, with no set amount of hours, just shift assignment. Good ones will work all that is required to get the job done, bad ones will be fired. There is also a problem with higher ranking officers making too much money and those who actually put their life on the line more often being paid too little.

Our officers are worth whatever OT we pay them and more. They are worth more than the small salary we pay them now per year.

Many of them pick up extra security work on their off days just to make ends meet. They are worth much more than that.

When your house is being broken into, do you want the cop who is on his tenth hour chaseing down the satanic brat, or do you want the cop you just got back from his days off well rested? Who do you want?

I want the guy who is well rested, and doesn't have to worry about how the mortgage will get paid. Thats the guy I want. I hope those ten hour days are voluntary.

Actually, this is not a ploy to make money. The officers work in 10 hour shifts for 4 days a week. This gives them a 40 hour work week with an extra day off.

Way to go PCPD!! You continue to prove that you are the best department in the state.

"Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson

Nurses work three 12 hour shifts a week to help fix lives.

PTC (and other) officers (fire and police) work four 10 hours shifts to help save lives.

Teachers work five 8 hour shifts minimum and then work at home on papers and grades, phone calls, etc,. to help build lives.

And all three should make double or more than what they are paid.

What do you think?

MainFrame

Of course we all want them to have double the pay they make now. For a tenured policeman, fireman, and teacher that would be about $90,000 per year. at four days a week work, or 200 hundred days per year ($450.00 per day.) Nurses would come out to about 35% more than that, or about $600 per day.
Now, I'm afraid to inform you that all this will cause your local taxes to just about double to pay for it. There are those who also say we need twice as MANY of each of these positions, in addition to doubling their salary. Now we can quadtruple your current taxes. Lets see now, a 250,000 home now costs about $2800.00 in taxes, so we are now at $11,200.00 annual taxes for these improvements. Still interested? Our doctors are complaining about their salaries due to corporations and the federal government (MC) reducing their allowances. Now if they double their salaries along with drugs doubling...... well you get the idea, don't you? By the way, doesn't having twice the cops on duty at one time mean we have half the cops on duty some other time? Do the managers do this also?

If you double your contribution (taxes) you do not get $11,200 you get $5600 - don't compound it.

If not, what is it worth to save a life? Or teach a child who becomes a Dr. or the head on Exxon to read if not $50 per hour?

Also, you can't base your computations on days per week - you need to look at hours of work.

Nurses start at about the same as teachers so it would NOT be 35% more. Regardless, even at your $600 per day for a nurse that would have been $50/hr for the 12 hour day. Is that unrealistic to you for a college graduate working from 7pm to 7am?

Let's see - pro-athletes make millions, lawyers make hundereds per hour, doctors can easily make thousands per day - yea - I'm all for doubling it dude. Even if it costs your $900 per month in taxes on a $250k home.

I never suggested raising Doctors pay - just the three/four I mentioned.

As for the guy who's wife is making $67k for teaching Elementary - not in this county - not with JUST a masters and not unless she is past being able to retire.

And to put it in to context for you - $67k would be a tiny bonus for a professional with advanced degrees and 30 years experience in dang near any field - much less a salary.

Of course- all of this is just to stir the pot

MainFrame

We all know that the job that our teachers, nurses, police and fire workers do is *worth* more. And they should be paid MORE. But I think we also can all probably agree that it is unrealistic to think they would be paid double what they are paid now. How about, though, for the police and fire in particular, how about we stop cutting their cost-of-living raises, and just pay them enough to actually live on? Especially to live in the community they work in. (Yes, some do, but many cannot afford to.)

By the way, doesn't having twice the cops on duty at one time mean we have half the cops on duty some other time? Do the managers do this also?

Technically, yes. But at those "in-between" times, when there are fewer officers on duty, it is the SAME number of officers that used to be on a regular 8 hour shift. So the PD has figured out how to have more officers on the streets for 9 hours a day, without having to add officers. (More officers are being hired, though, because they are still short-staffed.)

The "managers" - are you talking about the lieutenants? They work 12 hour shifts, overlapping the other shifts. This is to make it easier to pass on necessary info, keep them up-to-date, etc so they can do their job more effectively.

If by "managers" you mean the Captains, Majors, and Chief -- they're admin. You could say they work an 8 hour shift, but they also put in whatever extra hours are necessary.

Well, you have managed to confuse everyone about the hours worked of our public servants and teachers and nurses.
The same number of officers that used to be on an 8 hour shift, means what? When? Marshall Dillon and Chester did it all in 1875, just a little late sometimes! They were furnished a cot and a coffee pot however. I expct Miss Kitty fed them for free. Also, the town would bury them if they got kilt.
By managers, I mean all those who don't work the strange hours you indicated. Is the four day a week (4 days covers only about 55% of the shift on which he works, which needs coverage 7 days a week). Then of course there are two other shifts! How many clerks does it take to keep up with all this, by the way. Just make them all exempt personnel, pay them 40,000 to start--maybe 65,000 with ten years, and have very few lt., captains, majors, col., etc. They then work like industry----all the hours needed. Pensions ok, even though they are old fashioned now in industry. These people need to get some dignity and really be respected.

Actually, firemen in Peachtree City work a 24-hour shift, and are off for 48 hours. Their shifts are 8am-8am every two days.

You are right - I should have mentioned that they work 24 hour shifts.

Ryck, Dave and all the guiys at PTC Fire would be mad at me for not saying it to start - but - I think everyone got my point.

Thanks for keeping me straight

Just stirring the pot-

MainFrame

Teaches elementary school. She has her Masters and makes over $67K a year. How much more should she make. With her benefits and retirement we both agree that she is very well compensated.

I can't speak for the firemen an police officers.

In what school district does your wife work? Has she been working over 25 years? I have 2 postgraduate degrees and when I left teaching I had 13 years experience and didn't make close to that. It wasn't but two years ago that I left. I'm very curious.

That's it. However, these days it's about like working in Baghdad.

I just pulled the pay scale. She's probably ready to retire then, isn't she? Lucky her!

And I'm sure she won't even look back.

MainFrame, I am not sure if you were speaking to me. But, I couldn't agree more. Considering my mother is a teacher and I have many friends in law enforcement, I know first hand that the debt that our society owes people in that profession is MUCH greater than the pittance that they receive.

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God

Gotta love our law guys.

Man, How awful is this tragic story.

Keep us posted IMNSHO.

I can't believe that anyone could be this stupid. I know it happpens out there in the world, but she couldn't have thought this one through. I hope this kid had some responsible grandparents or aunts or uncles around because the foster care system is no place for a kid. How could anyone do this to there own child?

I see sarcasm is completely lost on you. I apologize for my remark.

I recall, it seems, that we had a lot of people upset whenever the police had the shootout at Kedron with the 'drug dealers'.

Innocent people being shot - yada yada yada.

Maybe you should take a hit - that would be a good choice for you.

MainFrame

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But he sure reminds me of myself 25 years ago. He'll grow out of it too when he learns he really doesn't need the weed to act that way. It takes some years to realize you can be just a silly without being under the influence.