Doubling council’s salaries pulled off agenda

Tue, 10/17/2006 - 3:37pm
By: John Munford

A plan to discuss an increase in salaries paid to the Peachtree City mayor and City Council has been postponed.

The issue was originally scheduled to be discussed at Thursday night’s meeting but it was removed from the agenda Tuesday afternoon.

Mayor Harold Logsdon had planned to recommend that his and council members’ salaries for the part-time jobs roughly be doubled. The increases would not take effect until January 2008 at the earliest.

Before the item was pulled from the agenda, Logsdon said in an interview he hoped to bring Peachtree City’s mayor and council salaries in line with at least the state average for cities of similar size.

Peachtree City pays an annual salary of $9,000 to the mayor and $6,000 for each council member; that figure has gone unchanged since 1985, Logsdon noted.

For cities with more than 25,000 people having a part-time mayor, the average salary for mayor is $19,203, and the average salary for a council member is $12,363, according to a study by the Georgia Municipal Association.

“Maybe we’ll go one notch above the average,” Logsdon said.

If the council decides to pursue a salary increase, it must be advertised for three weeks to notify the public and then brought up for a final vote on the matter, Logsdon said. Also, the new salaries wouldn’t take affect until the next election cycle beginning January 2008, Logsdon added.

Also off the table: Council was to have been presented with information about various benefits other cities provide their council members including health and life insurance, but Logsdon said he wasn’t very interested in offering such a benefits package to the Peachtree City Council.

Still on the agenda: Council is slated to consider approving a resolution calling for the permanent closure of the Philips Services Corporation (PSC) plant in south Fulton County bordering Fayette County.

The plant was shut down temporarily following news that the chemical propyl mercaptan was released at the plant; the chemical is being blamed for a number of illnesses among nearby residents.

But the Georgia Environmental Protection Division allowed the plant to reopen days later after the company agreed to a record $100,000 fine as part of a consent order.

Since then it has been revealed that the company failed to comply with state environmental regulations requiring a notification to EPD of what chemicals have been treated at the plant.

If Peachtree City approves of the resolution, it will join several other nearby jurisdictions expressing their distaste with the way the situation has been handled.

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Submitted by swmbo on Sat, 10/21/2006 - 5:54pm.

Not that I think these folks should get another penny but . . . let's look at the other side of this.

Start from the presumption that people don't do "work" that has no reward. Sometimes the reward is money. Sometimes the reward is something other than money. But, public servants being an oxymoron (i.e. they may serve someone but that someone isn't the public and it isn't "service" to benefit yourself more than those you purport to "serve") you have to look at what's in it for them, if not the salary.

So, the question I pose to you folks is this: If we don't pay them enough "to keep 'em honest" don't we basically invite developers and corporatist special interests to "buy" themselves a "public servant" (who will, then, turn our beautiful county into South Gwinnette County)? I hate to think that have to bribe our own elected officials to do what we hire them to do but how else do we ensure that they do what we elect them to do?

If you and I are always in agreement, one of us is likely armed and dangerous.

Submitted by dollaradayandfound on Sat, 10/21/2006 - 7:31pm.

Doesn't work. One gets a whole different set of people when they work to stay busy and be helpful, than when they look forward to that paycheck. Usually get more independent and qualified people also. This sort of comparison is similar to ther catholic church's dilemma about what to do with pedophile priests. This latest one where the guy is now near the island of Malta, living retired, who is accused of harming former congressman Foley. What is fascinating about all these cases is the lack of police intervention. It seems impossible to me that more parents don't know about these things when they are happening. Does the church threaten them to be quiet? Or, do the police, in general ignore complaints if the heirarchy tells them the priest is "gone." Both these dilemmas are about officials making poor decisions for similar reasons: stop law suits!

Submitted by bladderq on Thu, 10/19/2006 - 6:24pm.

God forbide they find out what Dr. Cleveland & cohorts voted themselves in Senoia several years ago. Mayor gets a $1000. & council get $500. All for a town of less than 2000.
What did ever happen to Public Service? My HOA board serves for free.
A kudos goes to the Coweta Board of Education, they serve for free.
"Ask not what your country (county / city / HOA) can do for you...."

Submitted by thebiggun on Sat, 10/21/2006 - 3:40pm.

Come on people these hard working public officals need more money. Let's see, drinking in local bars is expensive so you need to add a 50% increase for that to start with. Second, it is a really good way to spend the money you have saved by cutting taxes. O' I forgot, you raised taxes. I am sure when they were running they were doing it to make a difference in their City, ya right. Now they are doing it to make a differenc to their bottom line income each year. I also forgot that the city higher ups are mostly retired military (Boone, McMullen, Logsdon)and have learned through years of spending federal money to bring those fine ideas to the city. Hey wait they did save us some money by cutting the employees money both in pay and health insurance. Great job guys what a wonderful bunch of true professionals you are. Next time one of these fools says they are doing it to make a difference in their community, someone needs to kick them right in the shins.

Submitted by thebiggun on Sat, 10/21/2006 - 3:44pm.

They will try to slip this through a concil meeting when no one is watching. Go to the meetings and be heard.

Submitted by Hardtack on Thu, 10/19/2006 - 6:33pm.

We used to run towns by rules and paid professionals who did their jobs. The only politics involved were the professionals friends. Nowadays, the jobs are used to make things happen for developers and others. The only way you can get an unpaid volunteer to serve is to choose someone who isn't involved in politics or development, otherwise he wants paid.

Submitted by bladderq on Thu, 10/19/2006 - 6:32pm.

I've told John Thompson before a good story would be to look at what all our elective public "serveAnts" make. The clerk in Senoia had a good quote one year when she said she didn't know what they did but show up for about 30 mins. on Monday night. Sounds like my HOA board.

Submitted by skyspy on Tue, 10/17/2006 - 10:27pm.

You greedy idiots!! You aren't even worth the money we are paying you now. Why should we give you more???

The first thing that needs to be done is to give all of our full-time city employees a cost of living raise, and pay more of their health benefit coverage.

If we actually have extra money, that's what we need to do with it.

You idiots were all about making our city employee's earn their raises through "performance" raises. Guess what? What goes around comes around. Any raise you lazy slugs get should be based on performance and put to a vote.

Submitted by ole sarge on Thu, 10/19/2006 - 8:45am.

It is difficult to believe that the mayor and council members were not aware of the salaries when they ran for office. If I recall correctly most who were seeking election wanted to “serve” and “give back to the community.”

They were willing to spend their own funds and those of their friends and supporters to gain public office. The essence of political power is to spend other people’s money. How it is spent is a measure of character and integrity. Sadly, these qualities are seldom found in self-aggrandizing public office holders.

Submitted by new2ptc on Tue, 10/17/2006 - 9:11pm.

Maybe with an increase in salary we will get a Council willing to listen to the people and communicate with us.

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Submitted by Robert W. Morgan on Tue, 10/17/2006 - 6:58pm.

Makes perfect sense to me. Give them more money to do the same job. If we offer $20,000 for mayor, Stevie B. will back again sniffing like a dog around a fire hydrant.

Submitted by johenry on Tue, 10/17/2006 - 9:24pm.

Mayor Harold Logsdon and his crew are the most foul bunch of elected officials Peachtree City has ever had. This current bunch makes Bob Lenox and Fred Brown look like choir boys.

They reduced the compensation for the full-time city employees and at the same time they want to double their own pay. The entire city is choking on the city council and their self-interest. Logsdon is so shady that people have come to accept the fact he lies on the issues as a matter of common discourse.

Robert W. "Density King" Morgan's persistent phobia related to Steve Brown is so immature. I never recall Steve asking for a pay raise and he spent a lot more time on the job. At least Steve was honest and he cared about the people who live in our city. It was nice having someone in office who actually fought for the average citizen. You may not have liked what he had to say, but at you could count on it being the truth.

Submitted by OldSchoolFootball on Tue, 10/17/2006 - 9:32pm.

Kick the bums out!

Submitted by IMNSHO on Tue, 10/17/2006 - 5:16pm.

Logsdon said in an interview he hoped to bring Peachtree City’s mayor and council salaries in line with at least the state average for cities of similar size. ... “Maybe we’ll go one notch above the average,” Logsdon said.

Of course they would want to do this for themselves. I believe it is more important, however, to do this for the public safety workers such as our police and firefighters. That is the only way we will keep quality up.

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