Fayetteville drug bust leads to chase, 5-car crash

Fri, 10/06/2006 - 11:54am
By: John Munford

Two suspects trying to avoid arrest after an undercover drug buy led sheriff’s deputies on a brief chase Thursday afternoon that ended in a five-car crash near the Fayette Pavilion, police said.

The chase began when the suspect jumped a curb at the Taco Bell, initially heading north on Ga. Highway 85 in the southbound lanes, said Lt. Col. Wayne Hannah of the Fayette County Sheriff’s Office. The suspect’s car moved into the northbound lanes of Hwy. 85 at the next intersection: the entrance to Lowe’s, Hannah noted.

According to a report filed by the department, the 1995 Toyota Camry driven by suspect Antione J. Teamer, 27, of Doraville, ran a red light at the intersection with Pine Trail Road and struck a minivan that was going west through the intersection from Pine Trail Road, Hannah said.

An undercover drug agent, driving an unmarked truck, swerved to avoid that crash and ran into a 2003 VW Passat while a second sheriff’s unit ran into Teamer’s Camry on the passenger side, preventing the passenger from fleeing while Teamer tried to get away on foot, Hannah said.

Teamer was apprehended moments later behind the Ruby Tuesday’s restaurant, Hannah said. The passenger, identified as Michael Todwell, was also arrested, Hannah noted.

Capt. Mike Pruitt said an undercover officer was purchasing two ounces of crack cocaine with a value of about $2,100 when the deal went down. The amount of crack was large enough to file trafficking charges in addition to charges of possession of cocaine with intent to distribute. Other traffic charges relating to the chase will also be filed, Pruitt said.
“It was a pretty good amount of crack cocaine,” Pruitt said.

According to Hannah, an on-duty Fayetteville police officer had pulled over his patrol vehicle on Hwy. 85 in an attempt to deploy “stop sticks” to deflate the suspects tires, but he couldn’t get them out in time.

The crash occured just before the sheriff's helicopter could get into position to resume the pursuit so the ground units could back off, Hannah noted.

No life-threatening injuries were reported, and Hannah said he was told that all injured persons in the crash were released from the hospital.

The undercover buy was conducted by the Drug Task Force unit of the sheriff’s office, and agents initially had chosen another location to make the buy at, Hannah said. But the dealer switched locations afterward, asking that the deal take place at Taco Bell, Hannah noted.

Typically when the task force executes a “takedown” on drug suspects, they insure that each entrance and exit to the area is blocked off to seal the suspect in. In this case the suspect avoided that safeguard by unexpectedly jumping the curb to get away.

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Submitted by Cyclist on Fri, 05/30/2008 - 5:10pm.

according to Channel 5 Fox News, this dork skipped bail ($80k) and is on the lam.
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Submitted by chill on Mon, 10/09/2006 - 2:09am.

ME: Not CURRENTLY certified. Under the law this is not required. True statement; you do not need to CURRENTLY be certified to run for the office and be elected Sheriff.

YOU: You might want to go read O.C.G.A 15-16-1 and you will find that being a certified officer in the State of GA IS required to become a Sheriff. False Statement; you do not need to be certified to become Sheriff (get elected), but you must to "be" Sheriff(when your actual term starts and you are sworn to make arrests and uphold the law).

YOU: If you read my comments again, you will find that I said exactly what you just posted!

ME: False, Sorry but you did not. I really hate to sound like such a smart(explicit) b/c I really am not. However, when I feel that my intelligence is being insulted I just can't help it.

I know you know what the law states and you know I know what it states, the only difference is that I make my comments clear so that there is no room for error. Is your comprehension lacking? I think it is you who needs to read your posts again as well as mine.

I never implied for one second that a Sheriff in GA need not be a POST certified peace officer. Of course he/she must in order to make arrest while on official duty in a public office(24 hours a day for a Sheriff)

Furthermore, I wouldn't even vote for myself if I wasn't certified. What is to guarantee that I would complete the basic mandate course if(and a very BIG if) I were elected. Nothing. But, the law still allows for this scenario. Why? Maybe b/c the GA General Assembly only meets for 40 days and the legistlation was logjammed.

Anyhow, I probably will not be running. If I do I will be sure to complete the certification process during the six months prior to qualifying, in the best interests of the public of course.

Do I have any supporters? Spextor for SO!

Submitted by drewpdawg on Mon, 10/09/2006 - 7:19am.

As a teen, a person attains a level of maturity which one day many would consider high enough that the person "becomes" an adult. However, in your opinion, that person does not have to attain that level of maturity to "be" an adult. Obviously, a level of which you "currently" do not reach. My suggestion to you also is try making it through mandate training before jumping down the throats of all of those at the Sheriff's Office who already have. Many of whom you criticize began when you were still playing "cops and robbers!"

Submitted by chill on Mon, 10/09/2006 - 11:33am.

I have obviously offended you and I apologize. I am atleast mature enough to do that. Also, I would very much prefer not to jump down the throats of anyone at the SO. This is not a very good leadership style. Re: My post(fruit for the picking), "we need someone who will foster an atmosphere of commitment and cooperation. You are totally right, maturity defines adulthood; I have no opinion to the contrary.

Submitted by thebiggun on Mon, 10/09/2006 - 5:25am.

Wow Spextor you need to run for Sheriff as you all ready have the first qualification: A self proclaimed know-it-all. As soon as you run and win (Yea Right), you and your fellow Sheriff's Freeman in Fulton and Hill in Clayton can get together and do the new version on Curley, Larry and Moe.

Submitted by chill on Mon, 10/09/2006 - 12:14pm.

I am well know and liked in the community and have more powerful contacts than you can probably imagine (elected officials, county and city employees, and business owners). Even considering my age and inexperience I bet I could build a strong base of support. Winning is a different story, but I firmly believe I could do the job that needs to be done. I don't want a Sheriff who doesn't believe this. As for Marvin and Victor, I don't care for them much; but that is quite funny. Smiling

Submitted by lawaboveall on Mon, 10/09/2006 - 12:56pm.

Spextor,

You are too young, and too inexperienced. That is why you did not get elected to the PTC City Council and you are not ready for a job like Sheriff. Work a few years, get some experience under your belt in the school of hard knocks, do some community service and then decide what you want to be, or do.

Submitted by chill on Mon, 10/09/2006 - 1:05pm.

I know, you are right. Thanks for the advice. However, I am not that guy you are referring to (what was his name, Lukejan or something?) I really am 24 yrs old, I think he is like 21 or 22. I am really enjoying this Columbus day, no school!

Submitted by chill on Sat, 10/07/2006 - 11:46am.

Not trying to discredit your position (bad_ptc) but not all persons listed on the DEA wall of honor were killed during undercover operations. More than some of them died the way the average civilian might; plane crashes, car accidents on their way to and from work, even the collapse of a govt. building b/c of structural inferiority. Working undercover IS extremely dangerous and DEA agents are shot at and killed in the line of duty. Just last month in fact this occurred and S/A's w/ our own DTF were there assisting the Feds. Thank God nobody was injured or killed.

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Submitted by slider on Sat, 10/07/2006 - 7:38am.

I cant believe how many people have a problem with our law enforcment officers making a drug bust. It did not happen in the best place or time, but the fact is, the officers dont get to pick the time/place in most cases. People were making an issue of the fact that dealers are being lured here. I dont believe a dealer could be lured here by an undercover officer that would not come here otherwise. There once was a time when the bad guys were afraid to come down here because they knew that Randalls Raiders were going to get them.
Busts like this is what puts the word out that Fayette County is Not the place to sell your drugs.


Submitted by skyspy on Sat, 10/07/2006 - 7:51am.

If you don't like the fact that drug dealers keep coming here STOP BUYING DRUGS.....STOP LETTING YOUR KIDS BUY DRUGS. Those dealers are here because they are making alot of money here.

Keep up the good work landsharks.

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Submitted by All Smiles on Sun, 10/08/2006 - 7:40am.

I've had a huge revelation this past week!! While I took my daughter for a random drug test, the nurse told me McIntosh HS had a very big drug problem!!! She went onto say she gets more positives for the narcotics and designer drugs than any other high school in the area. (Not sure if designer drugs are like designer jeans). You said it correct Skyspy, "Stop letting your kids buy drugs". I think it’s time to let the dogs walk the parking lots at McIntosh HS and let’s just see. Kind of like a pop test....I have a strong feeling much more would fail than is even imaginable! Parents of McIntosh take the blinders off and become more proactive!!!!!


Submitted by SandySue on Sun, 10/08/2006 - 4:00pm.

All Smiles I am glad to hear you are performing random drug tests and you get the huge drug problem we have! Give the kid a reason to say no. But I am confused that you say Drug Dogs do not come on MHS property. I do not have children at that school anymore, (relief) but I did and I was told by my children that occasionally Drug Dogs did do locker checks or sniffs you might say and walk through the school. The kids were locked in while this went on. What happened did the parents in denial complain? If I remember correctly this happened the year Tracy Fleming started as principle. Yes I agree the Parents of McIntosh could be a little more pro-active and not worry about band boosters so much and start drug testing. The private school we are at now tells the kids they are getting hair tests for drugs and they tell the children they will have to take alcohol breath tests at school dances if they suspect any drinking. So the schools can be more proactive if they choose.

Submitted by RightOnTheMoney on Sun, 10/08/2006 - 6:43pm.

You are correct, the drug dogs visit every high school and middle school in the county periodically. Every High School also has a breathalizer. Oh, not to be picky but it's Principal not Principle. As for my two-cents - this is a parent problem - when did people start waiting for the schools to catch our kids before we acted?? Be a parent and be pro-active. There's your solution.

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Submitted by bad_ptc on Sun, 10/08/2006 - 9:43pm.

It is 110% the parent’s responsibility.


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Submitted by fulton4 on Mon, 10/09/2006 - 7:44am.

I totally agree... my children are mine & my husband's responsibility. Their behavior is a reflection on us and what we as parents stand for. I am confident this is what is a major factor in the downward spiral of today's youth...lack of parental responsibility. I just want to scream....if you don't want to parent, DO NOT have children!

Sorry for the outburst.


Submitted by susieq on Sun, 10/08/2006 - 9:27am.

It's a good idea to let the dogs guard every entrance to the schools, but then you will have a problem with the parents -- protesting, bringing in the ACLU and going to the BOE. I say, bring on the dogs.

Submitted by chill on Mon, 10/09/2006 - 2:30am.

Forget the ACLU and forget the protesting parents. When you are on school property you (your person, vehicle, backpack, lockers, etc..) are subject to search at any time. It is the LAW. Drug dogs and their handlers do not visit schools in this county nearly enough. You cannot simply have the dogs guard every entrace to the schools. The visits must be random, the dogs need to walk the parking lots and the hallways, and searches need to be conducted. Where are you Capt. Meyer? The SO only has 2 dogs trained to identify a host of drugs. I have met one of them, a beautiful black lab with a silky smooth coat. One of the most disciplined animals imaginable. I wanted to take her home.

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Submitted by All Smiles on Sun, 10/08/2006 - 3:42pm.

Well, I guess the PARENTS REALLY DO NOT CARE! I feel when you are on school property, like the airport, you are subject to a search. By not taking this stand and letting the parents control this, the drug dealers are in full control and become even more powerful. I'd love to take a bite out of crime!!!L


Submitted by RightOnTheMoney on Sun, 10/08/2006 - 6:27pm.

Buy the drug test at Eckard's for about $30 use one now and keep one out on your counter top or your kids to see sitting there. Trust but verify.

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Submitted by All Smiles on Mon, 10/09/2006 - 5:34am.

You can go to Choice Labs and for $25.00 you can get your highschooler/middleschooler tested. They will let you purchase tests for $20.00 to take home. Unlike the tests you can buy over- the-counter, these test for 5 different drugs and are much more sensitive, meaning more accurate. Choice Lab is down by Fayette Middle School and Spring Hill Elementary. Oh, forget inside the schools, have the dogs walk the parking lots. REMEMBER, GOLF CARTS HAVE NO DOORS! (hint, hint)


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Submitted by mudcat on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 6:25pm.

After all

1995 Toyota Camry driven by suspect Antione J. Teamer, 27, of Doraville

That's what they were chasing? For 2 grams of crack?

Come on, this is Fayette County where we should be capturing Lexus, Caddilac and Hummers. Where is Bruce when you need him?
meow


Submitted by blabbermouth on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 6:37pm.

not grams. There's a big difference.
A '95 Camry would make a perfect UC car.
As for BJ, I wonder if he's still beating up handcuffed drunks.

Submitted by chill on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 4:40pm.

John, thank your sir. In my opinion, those from out of town arrested in our jurisdiction are a danger to the community, namely their community. When they come here they become a danger to our community. When the police have a suspect meet a "15 yr old girl" the crime has already been committed in both jurisdictions via the internet(enticement of a minor under the age of 16 in order to engage in sexual acts). All that is left for the police to do is identify the suspect and arrest him/her. Why can't PTC turn over the investigation to the local agency? Trace the suspect by their IPO address w/ the help of the GBI if necessary. Oh sorry, the GBI is under funded and understaffed so that may not work. Murray obviously loves the attention and his picture on the front page w/ a number by it. Re: DRUGS Yes, a lot of drugs come into Fayette from outside of the county. Yes, drug activity breeds more crime just as other "social order offenses" such as gambling and prostitution do. Yes, it is a good thing these 2 are off the streets. This operation was obviously a result of an associate of the dealer turning on him and giving him up. This probably occurred in exchange for leniency from the DA, usually a plea deal that must be accepted by the magistrate. I'm not saying this information should have been ignored. But, there is a pattern developing. The DTF consistently arrest criminals from outside of Fayette. I know we have a lot of problems here that need attention. Fayette LE agencies are letting down all the residents of this county; parents, children, even drug users(these people need help). I am simply saying things could be done a whole lot better. In 9 months I will be legally eligible to run for the Office of Sheriff. Probably couldn't afford the qualifying fee so I would have to get about 600 signatures to get on the ballot. Think I could get some supporters and do away with the very much entrenched good 'ol boy system. One charter member is already out and probably won't stay with the SO. I have heard that what happened to Jordan was a long time coming! I don't know how much support I could garner but I sure would get a lot of publicity Smiling

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Submitted by bad_ptc on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 6:05pm.

All that is left for the police to do is identify the suspect and arrest him/her. Why can't PTC turn over the investigation to the local agency? Trace the suspect by their IPO address w/ the help of the GBI if necessary.

First off the IPO can identify an internet address only, not a person. There could be 6 people living at that address. Which “one” do they arrest.

What happens if the perp. is using an open IP from Starbucks or the PTC tennis center? Now what do you suggest?

You can’t arrest an internet address. That’s why the perp. has to be present.

Oh sorry, the GBI is under funded and understaffed so that may not work. Murray obviously loves the attention and his picture on the front page w/ a number by it.

Dribble not worth a response.

”This operation was obviously a result of an associate of the dealer turning on him and giving him up. This probably occurred in exchange for leniency from the DA, usually a plea deal that must be accepted by the magistrate.”

Where exactly did you get your crystal ball(s)? Maybe you have Johnny Carson’s old Carnac hat.

What provided you with such incite as to where the FCSO got the information?

”drug users(these people need help)”

Great, my tax dollars at work.

What those people need is a new boyfriend. I’m told there are several candidates just waiting for them in the Federal prison system.

I’d be willing to spend about .27 each. The cost of a cheep .45 bullet.

”In 9 months I will be legally eligible to run for the Office of Sheriff.

And just how much and what type of experience will you have when you turn 25? If you are already a Vet, peace officer or have some other background in law enforcement and are basically qualified, do it.

You might be surprised how well you do.


Submitted by chill on Sat, 10/07/2006 - 1:58pm.

Re: First off the IPO can identify an internet address only, not a person. There could be 6 people living at that address. Which “one” do they arrest?
What happens if the perp. is using an open IP from Starbucks or the PTC tennis center? Now what do you suggest?
You can’t arrest an internet address. That’s why the perp. has to be present.

You are correct!
There could be six people. Maybe one is a wife and four are children. You try to get this sort of info out of the perp. in an effort to identify him/or even her. Questions like. Who are you? Where do you work? How old are you? Etc... w/o becoming too suspicious. Find out where he lives first and say "no way me too". Be ready with the info you might need to make it legit; list of middle/high schools throughout the state, etc...
Starbucks where? Arrange for the meeting there and assist the local agency. PTC tennis center? We'll, that's one we can take care of!
This is all hypothetical and will always depend on the specific case.

Actually, I don't have near as much a problem w/ the PTC stings as I do w/ the county buy busts. Narcotics is much more dangerous b/c very specific things must happen just right for the Op. to be successful. A transaction must take place. So much more can go wrong. This doesn't mean don't do it, just do it better than they are now. Also, go after the local suppliers. When they are taken down they will be much less likely to do it again. The demand for drugs in this county is fueling the trade. Whose fault is this?

FYI-The GBI just got five additional investigators to work internet child predator cases. However, they as well as the state police continue to loose good people b/c we won't pay them enough and they are going elsewhere.

Re: Where exactly did you get your crystal ball(s)? Maybe you have Johnny Carson’s old Carnac hat.
What provided you with such incite as to where the FCSO got the information?

You got me; it's with me 24/7. I prefer to call it my brain. Two ounces of crack is not for personal use. The dealer thought he would be selling it to another dealer who would then disperse it throughout the county. The DTF primarily works by obtaining info from the people they bust in exchange for leniency. Occasionally, but not nearly enough, they get info from those connected to the local community whom volunteer as a CI/Narcotics Agent to help. Among other things, they have their picture taken, sign the required legal documents in which they agree to have their person/vehicle searched at anytime, not to commit any crimes as long as they “work” on behalf of the department, and are advised they may be subpoenaed to testify at trial(very rarely happens). I do know these things. You can guess as to how.

Re: Great, my tax dollars at work.
What those people need is a new boyfriend. I’m told there are several candidates just waiting for them in the Federal prison system.
I’d be willing to spend about .27 each. The cost of a cheep .45 bullet.

If you don't know the US Govt. has classified drug addiction as a mental illness, we DO need to help treat drug users not just lock them up so they become institutionalized. I see this as a much better use of taxpayers’ money than building more prisons. Morality?Drug dealers are a different story. But, should we differentiate b/t an 18 year old at Starrs Mill selling green(weed) and zannies(xanax) from a 35 year old selling Ice(not for your coca-cola)? I believe that the court should. Do you have any adolescent children? If so, I bet I could tell you whether or not they have used or are useing drugs. Most drug users/dealers get incarcerated in the state prison system, not the federal, costing GA more money. A cheap .45 bullet for users/dealers is a great example of due process I must say.

Re: And just how much and what type of experience will you have when you turn 25? If you are already a Vet, peace officer or have some other background in law enforcement and are basically qualified, do it.
You might be surprised how well you do.

No not a vet, not currently certified or experienced. Under the law this is not required. What the SO needs is good leadership and great ideas. We need someone who will foster an atmosphere of commitment and cooperation. I have these things and can do this. I think I could do very well for Fayette and I just might give it a shot.

Why do folks keep screaming for Lt. Col. Wayne Hannah? Do we know that he would even want to serve as Sheriff? No, maybe he wants to retire soon. What ideas does he have to bring to the table and what changes would he make? We don't know that either. As long as Randall is there his mouth will remain shut. What do we really know about Hannah? Anyone?

I must apologize for my lengthy comments.
There is just a lot I feel needs to be said.

Hey bad_ptc, I think I have finally figured out who you are. I'll keep that to myself.

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Submitted by bad_ptc on Sun, 10/08/2006 - 10:45pm.

Principles of Drug Abuse Treatment for Criminal Justice Populations

Now please tell me what it's going to cost.


Submitted by chill on Mon, 10/09/2006 - 1:20am.

Drug addiction is a disease just like cancer in that physiological changes occur in the body in both. I wish I could tell you how much it would cost to cure it and how much time it would take. My grandpa was a cancer victim and my brother has sufferred with drug addiction. I simply do not have have all the answers. However, concerning drug addiction, I think the key is to not let the addiction manifest itself. This can be done through education, prevention, and enforcement. I know more can and should be done than what is in this county. Also, some things could be done differently, especially at the SO.

Submitted by skyspy on Sat, 10/07/2006 - 7:40pm.

First of all Wayne Hannah is probably too smart to want the thankless job of sheriff. Everyone knows that in any business when you get a big job title the pay is lousey and the hours suck.

If he did run Fayette county would be lucky.....very lucky! He is very well respected by everyone in law enforcement. Not one person inside or outside the SO has ever had one bad thing to say about him. He is a lifelong resident of Fayette County. He knows our county and it's people like the back of his hand.
Including people like me with "questionable driving skills" his people and his no non-sense policies have cost me a lot of money. Even though he has cost me a lot of money.....I think he is right and I was wrong(many times).

You do need experience as an officer to run for sheriff. Get certified and work in a small city, or county, then go for it.

Every sheriff(except clayton county)that has been elected was someone who was well respected in law enforcement before they ran for office. You have to have experience running a small office before you run a big one.

Submitted by chill on Mon, 10/09/2006 - 12:37pm.

Thankless job? People who hold powerful public office such as Sheriff will always be criticized, even those doing their absolute best under the circumstances. I have to hope that there are those out there willing to hold these positions and put up with low pay and long hours and little thanks b/c they feel it is the right and good thing to do. Because they feel they can make a difference in this world. If Wayne is "too smart to want the thankless job of Sheriff" then this county does not need him. Sounds like to me that your disregard for the safety of others and of the law has cost you a lot of money, not the commander of the traffic division.

Submitted by skyspy on Mon, 10/09/2006 - 12:59pm.

As you can see from sheriff Johnson's experience you are damned if you do, and damned if you don't. Someone is always going to be mad.

Yes I am aware of the fact that my lead foot has cost me alot of money.

We all need to let our officers know how much we appreciate them.

Submitted by OldSchoolFootball on Mon, 10/09/2006 - 1:24pm.

Underpaid, underappreciated, overworked, and overtaxed. We need to start supporting them more and criticisizing them less. Those are the four most important jobs in America. If you think any of those jobs are easy - do one of them.

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Submitted by Git Real on Sat, 10/07/2006 - 7:45pm.

Wayne's a die hard Republican and an avid Bush supporter. Have you seen the "W" sticker on his car?


Submitted by skyspy on Sat, 10/07/2006 - 7:51pm.

That's ok I still think he is our only hope. Actually the only one who might be better would be his wife. Talk about tough on crime. She is right out of JA Jance's novels character Joanna Brady. Is Fayette county ready for a female sheriff?

Submitted by chill on Mon, 10/09/2006 - 12:56pm.

I hope we get a Sheriff with a little bit of a personality. I do not know Wayne but if Deborah is any guage of this then forget it. She is dry as a bone. I would get behind Pruitt (aka pappy), he commands a small talented group of guys {{{{{{Edited to delete names of law enforcement agents.}}}}}}. Know who they are? He knows what this county need, the problem is the DTF is hamstrung by the county and to a lesser degree the Sheriff. This is why we had a shootout in the Publix parking lot and why we have had car chases and crashes. When are we going to fight the fight the was it should be done? Iraq?

Submitted by chill on Mon, 10/09/2006 - 1:47pm.

Why would the citizen edit the names of LE agents? They are public employees accountable to us. Their identities are not classified or protected by any law. In fact their names are routinely published in the local papers to include articles and legal notices(See District Attorney) I in no way endangered them or their families. I would not do such a thing.

Submitted by skyspy on Mon, 10/09/2006 - 4:14pm.

This is a prime example of what I was trying to tell you. You are inexperienced and are so ignorant you are dangerous.

You need at least 15yrs experience in the field, and then you will be smart enough to know how much you don't know.

This is the kind of "I'm 10 foot tall and bullet proof" arrogance that will get you killed out in the field.

Only one of those officer's names had ever been published, and then it was by accident.(God almighty what is the matter with you????)

To be an officer, and someday a sheriff you have to have knowledge skill, patience, and most of all; the wisdom to use your power(and they do have alot of it) carefully.

We do have a situation at the SO. However Sheriff Johnson has a formidable reputation, that has been carefully built over the years. Because of his tough reputation we still have had very little crime here. Most criminals, and citizens alike know "he's not playin'"

I'm sure the last few months have been the worst for him. It takes a very strong man to have to discipline your own. But he had to. He had no choice. The fact that it was someone he trusted implicitly, and considered to be his friend, has to be devastating.

One last thing: Think clearly, thoroughly, and precisely. That is what it takes to fight crime and win.

Submitted by drewpdawg on Mon, 10/09/2006 - 3:07pm.

Why do you feel that naming "undercover" agents of the DTF would not lead to any danger for themselves or their families?
You: "Create an actual surveillance division that would assist DTF agents, currently they have to do their own surveillance. Send a small unit of Special Ops guys along with them in case things go bad, not a whole van full (the milk truck) but maybe 3-5 guys in one Explorer." In your posts earlier, you even spoke of hiring additional assistance to run "special ops" in this county. How successful do you think your "Super Troopers" would be if their identities were known to the public? How much information would they be able to obtain locally to make even the slightest dents in the drug trade?

Two other things I have been meaning to ask of you also.
You: "This probably occurred in exchange for leniency from the DA, usually a plea deal that must be accepted by the magistrate." What part of a plea deal does a Magistrate judge have anything to do with? Magistrates play no role whatsoever in pleas. That would be arranged with the DA and either a Superior or State court judge. Secondly, you wanted to assign canine units to your special ops group. You: "Attach a K-9 unit (marked or not) w/ a narc dog as well as a cadaver dog for foot pursuits,". Assist what, finding dead drug dealers or Jimmy Hoffa? Cadaver dogs find dead bodies, tracking dogs track fleeing suspects!

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Submitted by ILuvFayette on Mon, 10/09/2006 - 2:12pm.

If you listed the names of the DTF agents, then by all means it needed to be edited. They are considered "undercover". They don't need you blowing their cover and putting them in harms way.


Submitted by skyspy on Mon, 10/09/2006 - 1:06pm.

Officers with a chip on their shoulders are usually injured or killed in the line of duty. Attitudes especially a bad one can kill.

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Submitted by Git Real on Sat, 10/07/2006 - 8:17pm.

I don't know who Wayne supports. I've been inquiring around and he is very well regarded and respected from several I've talked to. Problem is that you need to be somewhat politically savy in that position. Is he that?


Submitted by skyspy on Sat, 10/07/2006 - 8:22pm.

As we have both said you have to be a snake to be politician. I have not met him personally. I have talked to his wife, she is no non-sense when it comes to crime.

I think they are both way too honest and too smart to be politicians. Let's face it the good people are way to 'clean cut'. The good people know a thankless job when they see it.

Submitted by drewpdawg on Sat, 10/07/2006 - 4:05pm.

You responded earlier that in regards to your "candidacy" idea for Sheriff, "No not a vet, not currently certified or experienced. Under the law this is not required." You might want to go read O.C.G.A 15-16-1 and you will find that being a certified officer in the State of GA IS required to become a Sheriff. The requirement is that if you are not certified at the time of election, you have six months to become certified, or you may elect to seek certification six months prior to the election. And yes, I know Wayne Hannah. Wayne Hannah is one of the most respected law officers in Fayette County, as well as the Metro Atlanta area. He doesn't need to go around saying anything about himself, his work ethic speaks for itself!

Submitted by chill on Sun, 10/08/2006 - 3:42am.

No need to go read the code section you are referring to, I know what it say. To run for Sheriff you must have attained the age of 25, have been a resident for (blah), no felony conivtion or any conviction involving "moral turpitude", and so on. After attaining the office of Shreiff(being elected) you have six months to become POST certified and can even get an extension for certain reasons. And yes but you were wrong, any person who offers to run for Sheriff and is otherwise qualified can 6 months prior to QUALIFYING, and POST will work to ensure you a space, attend the basic mandate course. Qualifying is long before the election. One thing about the law is that it is open to interpretation, but you turned it all around. It is NOT a requirement to be a certified peace officer in GA to become Sheriff as the LAW plainly states; here the legistlature made it very clear. Yes, a good/great work ethic says a lot. However, many people(including myself) have this. I mean this; but why should he be Sheriff? What would he do w/ the Dept.? We'll just have to wait and see.

Submitted by drewpdawg on Sun, 10/08/2006 - 10:17am.

If you read my comments again, you will find that I said exactly what you just posted! In your earlier post, you commented that certification isn't required. IT IS A REQUIREMENT, which is why you found that you have six months to get certified after you get elected, or you can seek to obtain certification six months prior to the election or qualifying(If someone thought they would actually win!). If you can't get certified, you can't be Sheriff, even if you won the election. That to me is a requirement to hold the job! And then you still have to complete the 4 weeks of Sheriff's training for newly elected Sheriff's, but you probably already knew that too. Since you are so interested in law enforcement and the Sheriff's Office, why not contact Sheriff Johnson and go spend a day "in his shoes" or attend a local agency's Citizen's Police Academy. You might like it!

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Submitted by ILuvFayette on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 4:49pm.

I understand what you are saying about bringing criminals in from other areas, however, where do you think the drug criminals in Fayette are getting their supplies from. Sure, they could concentrate on busting locals only. But the supply would still be coming in and it would be a never ending struggle. It's like thinking that if you just keep soaking up water from a leak, it will eventually stop. It won't, you have to get to the source of the leak to take care of the problem.


Submitted by chill on Sun, 10/08/2006 - 2:54am.

I never said focus on locals only, just that a lot needs to be done locally that is not. Working with your analogy...there are so many more drug dealers outside of Fayette than inside b/c that's where the main suppy is located; for the most part we are just the demand. Bust one of them and the local dealers will always find another supplier. Not in this case b/c they got the local fist and worked their way up(remember I said don't ignore the info, but run better Ops.). More reason to focus here, you work your way up the food chain. If the local dealers cannot buy drugs from the Atlanta(area) dealers b/c they(local dealers) are in jail/prison then your kids(your being used in a general sense) cannot get their supply. DRUG DEALERS FROM ATLANTA DO NOT SELL GRAMS TO FAYETTE TEENS. These people sell ounces and pounds(1/4, 1/2, etc...). Faytte teens sell grams to fayette teens for PERSONAL USE. The source of the leak is right here at home. I guess we don't want to recognize this.

Submitted by chill on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 3:21pm.

First the good. Special Agents with the FCDSTF are highly trained and professional officers. One Agent recently got a position with the DEA. Haven’t ya'll read the "audit", MOST of the out of town training was for DTF agents as it is supposed to be. Some was for those who assist and support in their operations.
These folks were doing their job the way that they must; most of the time the dealer gets to set the location or you don't get the drugs. Dealers like populated, public places b/c they do not attract attention and it must look legit. What choice do the agents have?

Now the bad. Many departments in the country now have a DO NOT CHASE policy in the interest of public safety, including PTC. I understand they did not want to lose "the bad guy" before Hawk had an eye on the target, but come on-Thursday afternoon in Fayetteville? This was an accident waiting to happen.
Also, the DTF has had the same # of agents since it began. Why? The commission has repeatedly denied budget requests for additional agents and Randall needs all the other folks where he's got them. The DTF must ask for assistance from the Special Ops Div. when it is a high risk situation and often borrows other investigators from the CID to assist and make sure all the exits are covered. If we don't want to see this sort of thing happen again we need to give them the resources they need by doubling the size of the DTF.

Finally, the Ugly. Why do LE agencies in this county continue to lure criminals from out of town into our hood putting our citizens at risk? Only a couple of the child predators PTC has nabbed actually lived in Fayette. I would bet that more than half of those arrested by the DTF are not Fayette residents. Why don't we focus a little more on our own turf? There is plenty of drug activity in Fayette County to combat. Look at PTC, it has lots of narcotics activity but the DTF rarely operate there. PTC does not have any proactive unit to fight narcotics, and believe me; reactive patrol units cannot do it. Why doesn't the DTF help PTC develop a drug unit that will build a network of CI's and therefore do something good for the county? Does Murray not want the help? Has Randall not pursued this prospect? Does he even care about what happens in PTC.

Lastly, if I ran the SO I would restructure all the departments so they could operate more effectively and efficiently with each other. Create an actual surveillance division that would assist DTF agents, currently they have to do their own surveillance. Send a small unit of Special Ops guys along with them in case things go bad, not a whole van full (the milk truck) but maybe 3-5 guys in one Explorer. Attach a K-9 unit (marked or not) w/ a narc dog as well as a cadaver dog for foot pursuits, and several marked cars that could block intersections in the case of a chase. Make this ONE unit that works together-call it a QRF (quick reaction force) I DONT CARE WHAT YOU CALL IT BUT DO IT. Design it so that 24/7 this unit can assemble in a matter of minutes and respond to any threat not just drug buy operations (have 3 of them not just 1) so that every shift is covered. Cover ALL the bases not just the exits to the parking lot!

It’s too bad I am just a college student and can think of this stuff; you've been there for how long? The days of moon shiners are up, but I know that you missed a few of them. Yes, there is still moonshine in Fayette. But now we have Meth, ever heard of it? j/k, Yeah and there is still weed, cocaine, mushrooms, X, prescription medication, and much more. I know for a FACT it is all in THIS county, being used and sold by Fayette residents. You must have a clean home before you clean someone else’s, right? Why don't we clean ours first? Oh yeah, you probably thought I was one of your own. Sorry, no person in your department is as smart as I am.

Submitted by skyspy on Sat, 10/07/2006 - 7:48pm.

They don't have to lure them here.
They come here everyday because they are making some serious "jack" off the kids, and the retarded parents who let their kids buy drugs.

Any independent business owner knows you take your "business" and build it where there are guaranteed sales.

Submitted by lowrider on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 4:58pm.

Without being overly critical, you bring up some great points. Maybe you should run for Sheriff or serve on our County Commission or Peachtree City's Council. Finally something worth reading.

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Submitted by Newsboy on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 3:29pm.

FROM A COLLEGE KID!

"Why do LE agencies in this county continue to lure criminals from out of town into our hood putting our citizens at risk? Only a couple of the child predators PTC has nabbed actually lived in Fayette. I would bet that more than half of those arrested by the DTF are not Fayette residents. Why don't we focus a little more on our own turf?"

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Submitted by John Munford on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 3:39pm.

Perhaps, just maybe, the out-of-towners are arrested because they're endangering our community?

Drugs are dangerous to ingest. Folks hyped up on drugs (and alcohol) are responsible for a lot of our crime, ala family violence, etc. THIS is a Danger to our community.

And the pervs. They're coming to PTC to prey on what they think are OUR kids.

I really did like your post though Spextor 5835. You have some very informed opinions and I hope you'll consider law enforcement for a career.


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Submitted by youdontsay on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 2:31pm.

Anytime the police or Sheriff's department does anything they are criticized beyond belief. But as sure as someone is breaking into your house or selling drugs to your children then you will call 911 and ask they they come to help you. They have a very hard job to do and most of the officers on the street do not have any control over what the Bruce Jordans are doing. Please just pray that they return home every night to the families that love them and respect them and remember they are the ones that are up all night patroling your neighborhoods while you are sleeping and when you sit down with your family for dinner they will not be sitting with theirs because their job is to watch after all of our families at dinner time, bedtime , birthdays, holidays, school functions etc. without gratitude for their efforts. They are not out to hurt the innocent they are trying to protect us, In case no one has told you this they are people just like you and me and I think it is time to start respecting all law enforcement unless they give us a reason to do otherwise. Please do not judge one because of others.


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Submitted by fulton4 on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 2:43pm.

I think many have lost sight of the most important issues of this story....2 bad guys are off the streets and no one was seriously hurt or killed....because that was one vicious scene yesterday.


Submitted by drewpdawg on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 2:04pm.

I wish for once, when a story comes out about anything involving the Sheriff's Dept., people would quit making the most absurd accusations and second-guessing everything they do. What has taken place involving Bruce Jordan has absolutely nothing to do with this story of the drug deal and the accident in Fayetteville today. This story has nothing to do with Greg Dunn, for that matter either. The FACTS reported by John Munford state that these subjects attempted to sell cocaine in the Taco Bell parking lot to undercover agents with the DTF. That was unsuccessful because the DTF did their job and prevented it. Yes, an accident occurred which is unfortunate. Unfortunate events happen everyday, not just here in Fayette County. Some of you armchair quarterbacks should maybe ask yourselves instead of, "Why did the DTF bring those people down here in our town to purchase drugs?" maybe ask yourself, "Who is it that attracted those type of dealers here in the first place which led to the DTF obtaining the information to contact those dealers and set up this drug sting?" Do all drug dealers and addicts live on Metropolitan Parkway? No, they don't. Spend more of your time researching what REALLY goes on in your town, before making your accusations next time. The CITIZEN reports arrests each week and I am sure there are more locals charged with possession of illegal drugs and more often than non-residents.

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Submitted by Newsboy on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 1:37pm.

... If so, I'm sure they can handle anything. Give the lady a break ... or is it IMPOSSIBLE for you to be anything but the self-righteous, condescending, arrogant, ignorant, hateful, disrespectful fool that you are?

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Submitted by fulton4 on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 1:38pm.

I'm sending lots of love and prayer your way....not to mention a valium.

actually....seems like everyone here needs a valium today. Smiling


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Submitted by THE BOSS on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 1:33pm.

Thank you John.


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Submitted by THE BOSS on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 12:42pm.

I am glad everyone is ok.
But what was gained from all this.
Just want to know.
How much money was recovered?
How much and what kind of drugs were recovered?
Were these two big time drug dealers?


Submitted by tonto707 on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 5:14pm.

to remove the dealers. Any more silly questions?

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Submitted by sweetpea8870 on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 12:57pm.

What was gained is that the criminals are off the streets no matter what kind of dealer it was. Also, I don't think the Sheriffs office was deliberately trying to cause harm to anyone so therefor I think THE BOSS needs to get a grip and be thankful that these guys are doing thier jobs! BTW, I think "THE BOSS" is Gregg Dunn because everytime there is something nice said about the sheriffs Dept. he shoots it down! By the way Greg, You will NOT be the boss much longer...he he!!!


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Submitted by THE BOSS on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 1:18pm.

Sorry you don't understand.
Someday you will.
But there are many ways to do things,
The wrong way, their way, and the right way.
Think about it, "training come to mind"?
DON'T CALL ME GREG DUNN.
P.S.
I have missed you!
Been on vacation?

Have A Nice Day


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Submitted by sweetpea8870 on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 1:30pm.

I do understand, I do know the right way, and I didn't miss you at all! Maybe you could use some "training"....Maybe in the pin with a hungry tiger!


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Submitted by THE BOSS on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 1:38pm.

Another bad day at work.
You don't play well with others.
You will, someday.


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Submitted by sweetpea8870 on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 2:29pm.

Hey, it's jean day at the firm in honor of breast cancer awareness so yes it is a good day at work and I do play well with others..we just dont seem to get along too well that's all..


Submitted by snitch on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 1:12pm.

These cowboys and indians need to get a grip and quit putting people in harms way! Was it worth the money boys? You don't deserve a gold star and by the way sweet, others won't be the boss much longer either......tsk tsk!

Submitted by tonto707 on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 5:15pm.

the objective is to remove dealers from the neighborhood. What would you have done?

Submitted by snitch on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 5:40pm.

What would I have done? I would NOT have lured criminals into Fayette County and put people in harms way at RUSH HOUR! You guys need additional training because this is on going and there needs to be a stop to this. Yeah, your right about removing dealers but there are other ways to handle it. So, you guys are the phools!

Submitted by head_ragg on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 1:03pm.

that the Sherriff's dept is putting the citizen's safety second to making a drug bust.

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Submitted by sweetpea8870 on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 1:25pm.

The sheriffs dept is putting the citizens safety first! Just look at the guy that was robbing all the stores at gunpoint to buy drugs. Innocent people were in harms way because this thug was a druggie! I am all for what the sheriffs office is doing. I guess opinions are like butts, everyone has one!


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Submitted by Newsboy on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 12:31pm.

SHOOTOUTS IN TYRONE!
HIGH-SPEED CHASES IN FAYETTEVILLE!
CAR CRASHES AT THE PAVILION!

AND THE SUSPECTS? FROM ATLANTA, DORAVILLE, DECATUR ... THUGS FROM INSIDE THE PERIMETER WHO'D NEVER COME DOWN HERE IF THEY WEREN'T LURED BY OUR SO-CALLED "DRUG TASK FORCE" FEEDING THEIR OWN ADDICTIONS TO GLORY.

JUST SAY NO! Please, stop "setting up" our community by "setting up" these deals in broad daylight in the middle of town! Do it out in the country, in the old J.R. Clothing parking lot, in the driveway of Evander's House! But don't do it at Taco Bell, where I should be able to enjoy lunch without worrying whether or not my safety will be threatened by maverick local law officers!

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Submitted by bad_ptc on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 12:58pm.

WE'VE HAD ENOUFGH, OF YOU!

GO CRAWL BACK UNDER YOUR ROCK AND HIDE WHILE THE DRUGGIES MOVE IN NEXT DOOR TO YOU.

YOU’RE A FOOL TO THINK THAT THE DRUG DEALERS WILL MEET OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF SOME COW PASTURE SO NOBODY WILL GET HURT IF THINGS GO SOUTH.

ON SECOND THOUGHT, YOU'RE JUST A FOOL!


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Submitted by Newsboy on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 1:23pm.

... then go back and read my comments. And maybe next time, you'll not react so foolishly!

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Submitted by bad_ptc on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 1:34pm.

THUGS FROM INSIDE THE PERIMETER WHO'D NEVER COME DOWN HERE IF THEY WEREN'T LURED BY OUR SO-CALLED "DRUG TASK FORCE" FEEDING THEIR OWN ADDICTIONS TO GLORY.
JUST SAY NO! Please, stop "setting up" our community by "setting up" these deals in broad daylight in the middle of town! Do it out in the country, in the old J.R. Clothing parking lot, in the driveway of Evander's House!

Talk about putting down the crack pipe!


Submitted by head_ragg on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 12:52pm.

Didn't they learn anything at the Publix shootout when innocent people got hurt? I have friends who are DEA that have never been shot at! You know why? They choose the time and place. They are smarter than the drug dealers! I guess the same can't be said about the Fayette county sherriff's dept!

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Submitted by cowtipn on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 12:46pm.

LOUD NOISES!!!!!!!!!!!


Submitted by Atlanta29 on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 12:31pm.

Why try to run in a congested area? Did these fools really think they were going to get home or something? Always glad to see a crack down on crime in the north end of the county. Keep it up.

Hope no one was seriously injured. I hate to see an innocent person get hurt from a criminals actions.

"Help fight crime, kill a criminal" Stuck Mojo

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Submitted by Newsboy on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 12:31pm.

N/P


Submitted by Atlanta29 on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 12:35pm.

Drugs and drug dealers are everywhere. I don't think you have to lure them. You just need to let them know if you come to our neck of the woods, prepare to be caught.

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Submitted by Newsboy on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 12:51pm.

"Drugs and drug dealers are everywhere" ... agreed.
"I don't think you have to lure them" ... so how do you catch a fish? Just sit and hope it jumps in the boat?
"Just need to let thme know if you come to our neck of the woods, prepare to be caught." OH! I SEE! Well, maybe we can put ads in the Atlanta paper telling them that? PROBLEM SOLVED! Thanks, Deputy Fife!!

GET SERIOUS -- No drug dealer in Doraville is going to know how to get to Fayetteville, much less drive down here with felony amounts of drugs or cash on him, unless convinced to do so by an undercover agent with directions! ...meet them halfway, I say, on Stewart Avenue. If you go any place up there, you know there's a 50-50 chance you'll walk into the middle of a shootout.

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Submitted by Atlanta29 on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 1:03pm.

Why don't you take out that ad and see if the drug problem goes away? I don't think it is that simple.

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Submitted by fulton4 on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 12:34pm.

Newsboy...

Why are you always SCREAMING in your posts? Just asking....


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Submitted by Newsboy on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 12:56pm.

I didn't know anybody could actually HEAR me ... or ANYONE else for that matter. How creepy. I'll try to keep it down.

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Submitted by sweetpea8870 on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 12:22pm.

Thank you to the Fayette County Sheriffs office for bringing down more druggie losers. It's nice to know that with all that's going on in the Dept. right now that you guys are still able to get the job done. WAY TO GO!!


Submitted by blabbermouth on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 12:21pm.

Wasn't there a drug bust there last week? That's what it looked like.

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Submitted by fulton4 on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 12:09pm.

OK, I saw this accident and I'm totally shocked no one was hurt!

But I do have mixed feelings about this drug bust....and police chasing suspects through an extremley congested area. But on the other hand, what choice do we have?

Just thankful there were no serious, life-threatening injuries.

Congrats to Fayette law enforcement for nabbing one (or two in this case) of the bad guys!


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Submitted by John Munford on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 12:34pm.

We were talking about this a short while ago.

If the perp is going to bolt, he'll do it from the moment the cops flash their badges. Do you think he'll slow down if the cops back off? Yeah right!

I'd like to see someone design a giant harpoon or magnetized device that we could use to "reel in" the perps vehicle. That would be cool!

Maybe we just need to have 15 deputies assigned in groups of three with stop sticks at the ready -- down the road a bit -- in all five possible directions the perp could peel out to.

I forgot to mention in the story that at the moment the crash happened, Hawk 1 (the hellicopter) was about to take over the chase so the ground units could back off, according to Hannah. I'll fix that now.


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Submitted by Newsboy on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 1:05pm.

See my other post(s) ... the task force agents clearly have the choice NOT to agree to these buys in public places where innocent citizens get caught up in the mess! BY THE WAY ... WHO ARE THE FOLKS WHOSE CARS GOT SMASHED AND ENDED UP IN THE HOSPITAL? They certainly have a right to speak out on this!

AND NO ... we don't need 15 deputies creating more traffic GRIDLOCK in the middle of the day while folks are trying to get somewhere already! Put them on Clayton County Border Patrol ...

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Submitted by OldSchoolFootball on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 4:18pm.

As usual Newsboy is on the wrong end of the common sense spectrum. At least Newsboy moved from begging for money to arguing about 'real world' issues. Using Newsboy's new logic, I suppose we should blame Doctors and Nurses for all the sick people that keep showing up where they work too. How do you ever get this lost????

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Submitted by John Munford on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 1:46pm.

Newsboy, you *can't* be serious.

15 deputies creating traffic gridlock? Or keeping everybody safe? I choose the latter.

You're putting up such a fuss over the Drug Task Force, saying the drugs wouldn't come to Fayette Co. unless dealers were: "LURED BY OUR SO-CALLED 'DRUG TASK FORCE' FEEDING THEIR OWN ADDICTIONS TO GLORY."

Sounds like somebody's got a chip on their shoulder. Drugs are a problem in Fayette, both in terms of sales and in terms of users.

I'm kind of a square and hang around a pretty straight-laced crowd. But I do know someone who was hooked on drugs; meth I believe. He was talented at what he did but no one could depend on him when it came down to crunch time.

And shock of all shocks, he lived right here in Fayette Co. and went to school here in Fayette Co.

Your pollyanna view of everything is fine in Fayette Co. is sooooo 1980s. Maybe 1970s.


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