CSX Train Blowing Horn at 5:00 a.m. in Peachtree City

Is anyone else just as disgusted as I am about the CSX conductor's inconsiderate habit of "laying on his horn" at about 5 a.m. for the past two weeks?!!!!

Who do I contact to make it stop!!!!

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Submitted by SuzyQ on Sun, 10/08/2006 - 10:19pm.

Love that wake up call, beats the cat.

One foot on the floor

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Submitted by mudcat on Mon, 10/09/2006 - 7:05pm.

What is wrong with a cat waking you up? Nice soft whiskers and kisses. Gets you all excited and starts your day right.
meow


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Submitted by masked08 on Sat, 10/07/2006 - 10:26pm.

This ENGINEER is not just blowing at the crossings. They are holding steady for 30-40 seconds at least. The morning that started this blog was exceptionally ridiculous. The horn literally sounded from @ 5 - 530 steady. If this was to clear the track, maybe they should have used the push rails instead. BTW there is only one crossing for them to cross close to me.


Submitted by Kathleen on Mon, 10/09/2006 - 7:26pm.

I am sorry about the train blowing its horn, but please for goodness sake put the toilet lid down!!! Smiling

Submitted by skyspy on Mon, 10/09/2006 - 7:39pm.

It sounds far away, and gives our town that little sleepy southern town feel. That is the ambiance that sells homes here.

They probably have to chase animals off of the tracks. Which I think is a good thing.

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Submitted by SLUF on Sat, 10/07/2006 - 5:40pm.

I'm not exactly sure what is near you such as railroad crossings, but there are regulations about how often and how long the train horn must be sounded before an intersection. I learned this while researching train vs. vehicle collisions. Here's an excerpt:

Outside of quiet zones, railroads must sound the horn 15-20 seconds prior to arrival at the crossing, but not more than 1/4 mile in advance of the crossing.
Note: Most State laws and railroad rules currently require that the horn be sounded for 1/4 mile in advance of the crossing. Under the rule, for trains running at less than 45 mph, this will reduce the time and distance over which the horn is sounded. This will reduce noise impacts on the local community.
$ The pattern for sounding the horn will remain as it currently exists today (two long, one short, one long repeated or prolonged until the locomotive traverses the crossing).
check it out at http://www.fra.dot.gov/downloads/safety/train_horn_rule/RolloutSummary121603.pdf#search=%22train%20horn%20regulations%22


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Submitted by nuk on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 7:40pm.

This very issue came up when Planterra Ridge was built and SOME of the new homeowners didn't quite comprehend that those train tracks they were driving over actually had trains using them. Amazing!

What happened then was that some Planterrans went to City Council and whined like only Planterrans can......excessive, annoying, can't-stay-on-point, etc. City Council of PTC said they would "look into it." In other words, they said "forget this BS and let's move on to something important."

You see railroad crossings? Guess what? THERE ARE TRAINS USING THEM! Duh! They are required to blast noise when coming to crossings that are travelled upon. This simply befuddles some people.

What do you expect from a subdivision that crashed Fayette County's 911 system because of all the calls about the noise from the Air Show?

NUK


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Submitted by mudcat on Mon, 10/09/2006 - 7:14pm.

Agree that the Planterra Ridge people are not in touch with reality, but may I offer up an alternative name for them?

Planturrrrr's. It implies a certain soil-focused and self-indulgent mentality, which you have to agree is their description.

meow


Submitted by Hardtack on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 8:29pm.

It is hard to understand, nuk, how these people who bought those homes near the tracks didn't know trains ran on them! And, that they had whistles (or horns, if you like). They also, must have been told by the DEVELOPER and the REAL ESTATE company and the Real Estate agent, about the horns and whistles, and also just how long each blast would be and at what times of the day and night. Caveat emptor, I say, don't you? Also, some of the factories stunk badly and harmfully that are nearby. I'm real sure they were told about those! Also, they were probably told about the club house being built illegally and that it wouild flood occasionally. Surely, they knew about the Disney Land coming at the entrance to their sub-division on 54? You know that Centennial was told that scores of train cars would go bump in the night being stored behind their house with chemicals possibly on them! Our elected officials wouldn't let us buy such things, unknowing, when they knew about these developments, would they? My no! A living must be made at someone's expense. If you don't like it, why get out!

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Submitted by mudcat on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 6:37pm.

It is not a horn, it is a whistle.

As to your question, the person to contact is Rich Parlionterri who was on city council in the late 1980's or early 1990's when he proposed a total ban on CSX train whistles. In fact he even introduced an ordinance banning them.

Ever since then CSX blows their whistles earlier, longer and louder. Thanks a lot Rich.

As far as contacting him, I believe he is in North Cove. Not sure whether or not they hear the train whistles up there, but ask when you knock on his door at 5 AM. I think it is the first one on the right (or maybe the left) - just look for a black MB - he's that kind of guy.
meow


Submitted by misesquire on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 2:25pm.

Actually, as a 35 yr. old working mother, I do get up early to go to work but just not that early. I have lived in this wonderful city for close to 3 years and have heard the horn before in the past. However, during the past two weeks it seems (to me) to be remarkable in the length of time and frequency that the horn is blown.

Also, ragnarock 47, thanks for the "choo-choo" mini-lesson as I was unaware as to who actually "manned the horn".

As to the safety issue, I am completely aware that it is a mandate however, based on my conversation with a gentleman from the CSX ethics hotline (1-800-737-1663)-where one can lodge a complaint, it is a possibility that this particular engineer might be a little heavy handed.

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Submitted by John Munford on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 2:03pm.

Don't worry. In about 5 years you'll have to get up that early each morning to get to work, so the train whistle could be your wake-up call!

If I lived in PTC I would be hammering my legislators to create another access point to the Interstate. Some posters here have said it can take quite a while already, and the Coweta mega developments are only gonna pile it on (don't forget Senoia).


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Submitted by bad_ptc on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 9:54pm.

John, like I said before, I get up at 4:00 AM and I'm at work by 6:00 AM just so I don't have to enjoy the rush hour we have now.


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Submitted by Git Real on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 10:05pm.

You fought a good arguement on the drug bust issue today. Good job.


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Submitted by bad_ptc on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 10:44pm.

What surprised me the most was that I had to fight them at all.

P.S. Bring back the lion. The thought of you standing there in you underwear writing blogs is disconcerting.


Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 1:59pm.

Thus the train runs through PTC. At every crossing they must blow the horn a certain amount of times. There are actually signs on the tracks to indicate this. Be thankful they do this, for sometimes people get hit by trains, and the result isn't pretty.

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Submitted by tampabayjay on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 1:52pm.

We called last year to inquire about the odd hours that the engineers were tooting their horns. CSX said it was to get or keep deer off of the tracks. Don't yell at the messenger. Just repeating what was told to me, I don't buy it either!


Submitted by ragnarock47 on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 12:55pm.

I know it's a minor thing, but conductors don't blow train horns or ring the bells. It is the engineer. An engineer is in charge of the engine and the conductor is in charge of the train minus the engine...which leaves the cars.

As for the horn blowing at 5am, if you were one of the many people who had one of your friends or family die due to a railroad crossing accident, I would imagine the horn blowing would be ok. In 2004 369 people died at rail crossings. If the Federal Railroad Administration (FRA) did not set the parameters for when trains needed to blow their horn, I am 99.9% that it would be way more than 369 people who died in 2004. The FRA has the same functions as the regulatory body for the airlines, the FAA. Again, it is the FRA who decides when, where, and how horns are blown on trains. CSX has no say in the matter.

I'd way rather be inconvenienced by an early wake up call than have a 400,000 pound piece of equipment with 4000 hp crush someone I know.

Now, the FRA and the railroads are working on a solution. It is costly and if I am not mistaken, it is the cities/towns who foot the bill: http://www.topix.net/content/trb/2683358472126101290627816359153586884873?threadid=2GV10C3KL7GM0U7M

Submitted by Jones on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 12:47pm.

Hey Misesquire, the noise is the least of your worries! One day take a look what the trains are hauling. Even worse, they are parking all that hazardous stuff a couple of hundred feet away from peoples houses. Just wait until that tanker loaded with chlorine leaks or derails, you won't hear a thing after that.

Submitted by ragnarock47 on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 12:57pm.

Are you aware of how much hazmat gets transported on the roads via semi???

There are way more semi accidents than rail accidents.

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Submitted by cowtipn on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 10:12am.

Where have you been? They've been doing this for as long as I can remember.


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Submitted by Basmati on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 10:15am.

I seem to recall the trains began blowing their horns around 1999 or so (might be off a year). I live miles away from the tracks but sleep with the windows open when possible so I had to get used to them blowing their horns virtually every morning.


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Submitted by masked08 on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 10:02am.

I am up so why not everyone else. You know, misery loves company. Anybody have a number for CSX?? Seems like they should know who to refer you to at least.


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Submitted by fulton4 on Fri, 10/06/2006 - 9:31am.

Your blog reminds me of that scene in My Cousin Vinnie....where the train comes throught at 5 am in the morning and poor Vinnie can't get any sleep.


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