“This way of doing business is unacceptable”

To who, Bad ? You and me ? I am with you. Good comments and good ideas— did they have a sewer plan? Maybe they have the Code of Conduct whatever down pat too. Not a concern when Pace goes to church, Amen !!!

But this way of business is totally acceptable to Harold Logsdon, Lynn Westmoreland and Mitch Seabaugh. So, the annexations and the sewer will continue. The PSC pollution is a local matter that should not concern them but the TDK road is a matter of Congressional importance. This annexation is exactly what they paid Logsdon to do and the rest of the PTC council is a bunch of cardboard cut-outs. They said "we dont have enough info on TDK so lets just do nothing." Sounds like they are drinking Westmoreland's do-nothing-er Koolaid.

When we moved here we knew that “development will happen”. We understood. But we expected was that Fayette and PTC would be developed ACCORDING TO A PLAN. And with that came a belief that our county and city would be pro-active about what was going around us. We didn’t expect them to stop growth just regulate it. But now they are blowing the plan all apart. The Crosswtown school zone and Braelinn Village will look like that bloated retail mess in Riverdale. Imagine that--- red lights at Crosstown and the Parkway and Crosstown and Robinson. Same thing with the annexation.

Let’s use the Westmoreland/ Seabaugh logic— “its going to develop and you can’t stop it...” Well, how about at the corner of Robinson and Redwine in PTC. Why not put in adult entertainment, retail “head” shops, massage spas and bars ??? But that would be against our PLAN, you say. Well so is the TDK Road and so is the Group VI plan in the county.

That’s the point— if you are a resident, this way of doing business is acceptable but to Group VI and the politicians they purchased its ok.

I've seen nothing about things you write about in your letter. We've had one Mayor I can recall recently that did vote for expanding commercial zoning in PTC. His name wasn't Logsdon.

I don't understand why folks keep talking about areas that WILL NOT be commercial. Redwine/Robinson? That's funny.

If you want to blame someone in this issue, blame the County of Fayette. They are the ones who originally approved this current development at Redwine/74 and the Commercial component. I applaud PTC for demanding it be dropped if they want annexation. That seems like a fair trade off to me. Either we don't annex and control it, or it gets out of hand under the County.

For what?

Group VI new exactly what they were doing. The county had no control over this development. There is/was no ordinance or law prohibiting what was proposed when the county issued the building permits.

Now that Group VI want’s city sewer and water, they have to play by the rules of PTC.

Now the developer can go ahead and get designs drawn up for a septic system and leach field(s), have them installed and then maybe, maybe, the city should then consider the question about annexation.

To keep annexing everything around PTC is a joke. Maybe we should annex the school complex or the city of Tyrone, they’re both close to PTC. How close is the city of Fayetteville to PTC? Maybe we should look at annexing that too.

Seriously, not trying to be glib. We either leave it alone or annex it and take over. And please note, I did say "I think" PTC is doing the right thing. Maybe it should just stay in the County.

I seemed to have misread the article re the commercial component. It was against the rules, and group VI should be held accountable.

There is no benefit to the city to bring it in now.

The developer already cut down the trees.
The developer already has the building permits.
The developer is not going to change the design or layout to suit city planners. They would claim that those costs would be burdensome and cut into their profit margin. And they would win.

Let the developer eat the cost of a septic system. Including the design and construction costs.

Let them continue as before. Don’t change the rules just because this developer is a “friend” of the city.

We’re not going to be able to control everything/everyone that wants to build next to PTC.

Being that close to the school will limit what the developer can do with that property anyway.

Additionally, now the developer has to pay for any road improvements that may be needed and not the city.

P.S. Let this be an example of "what NOT to do" for future developers.

It just occurred to me that if the developer never planned on installing a septic system, just hook on to the cities sewer system, what happens if the land won’t perk to support an industrial septic system?

Now that would be funny.

Credit goes to McDonough Dawg for being openminded enough to re-read things. We should all do that. What we have to ask in PTC about anything, really, is how does it affect our overall plan? Even if in the Fayette County or Coweta County areas, how will it affect our plan? TDK for example---- it will adversely affect our plan. It will be of no benefit to PTC. If there is regional benefit, fine, let the state mandate it and pay for it. My Redwine Robinson example was out there as something going way out of whack. Imaginary yes….But the change to Crosstown Road, radically departing from a neighborhood road to a heavy commercial thruway, is a huge impact on our plan. I give you credit for being openminded. You certainly appreciate that coming from Henry County where one elected official (a native son) painfully admitted that “We are turning Henry County in to another New Jersey”. I hope and pray we have one last opportunity not to make the same mistakes in Fayette County. I worry though when we have a Mayor Logsdon in PTC and a County Commissioner about to start office who owns 30 acres in Coweta. Look at the developers who got elected to office in Fayette; did business with the governments and through the governments for profit; left office and made large amounts of profit, still doing business with the governments they were elected to serve on. Steve Black and Jim Pace are two good examples.

I had the same thoughts. It is a shame that city council let local developpers get away with this kind of behaviour over and over again. They all operate on the precept of "It's easier to ask forgiveness later, than to ask for permission now".

City Council should deny annexation on this property.

This Group knows exactly what they are doing. If I were on city council, I would take this as an insult! How stupid does Group IV think our city council is to fall for this trick. But I guess we will see, if they are successful in annexing in this property it tells us a lot about our city council. Who could possibly think this was not planned? I am with you what was the plan for septic? Let it be known.