OK, the traffic yesterday was due to I-85 being shut down. I-85 being open would have alleviated your traffic problem. It's the same with widening 74 south and constructing the TDK extension-they will alleviate traffic. I don't see the logic that NOT building or widening a road will make the traffic problem better. That's wishful thinking. The people will come no matter what even if the roads are not up to standard. Just look at Gwinnett-the people that live there are willing to spend hours a day in traffic just to live there. If you want to ease the traffic then how about helping out if you can? When I'm stuck in traffic most of the cars I see have only 1 person in them. We aren't focused on car pooling at all. I recently saw some type of shuttle bus from PTC to downtown ATL and thought that was a great idea. The bottom line is that you are living here because of the low crime and good schools etc..so deal with the traffic. That's the bad side effect of having a good life here. If you can't deal with the traffic then move to where you work; it's simple. I say we plan ahead and build the roads we need to make the traffic better for the next 20 years instead of waiting for the problems to happen. You people that are opposing TDK and 74 widening are the same ones that will be here complaining in 5 years when the traffic is bad!

Vans with 10 people replacing cars with 1 person would be a great way to solve the traffic problem. Most grownups in truly urban areas have adopted that solution - and even public rail transportation (except in the Atlanta suburbs where we are afraid of "them" coming in)

TDK is going to happen and it should. The only mistake Brown and Logsdon made is they did not negotiate withe GREATA to get some public transit here. Might be racism.
meow

Maybe if one lives in south PTC AND wants to go to Newnan for some reason, they may cut across the proposed TDK extension, I doubt it though. The extension is a contract generator for those who planned it long ago. Our current Mayor will not ever speak harshly of it, he doesn't care what PTC citizens think! Really a shame the people who run for office anymore.

Not that Fairburn is unarguably clean and safe, but anytime you have massive amounts of traffic coming through an area, and population increases dramatically, crime also increases exponentially in those areas. You can look in most areas of Clayton County for a perfect example of this theory.

Yet again, someone who moves to PTC and within a year has a freak-out.
We must have the largest population of people with buyer's remorse in the country.

This just in: people have been whining about growth in PTC and Fayette County for MANY YEARS! It's funny in that some of the biggest gripers come from developments like Planterra Ridge that the existing citizens were dead-set against because it was "growth." Or Kedron. Or anywhere since the 1950's.

Good luck fighting an impossible fight. You can vote in and out politicians and that's about it. The futility is that what is done is done. You can't go back and demolish people's homes or shopping centers you don't like on a whim.

NUK

Mudcat and Nuk are the mental equivalent of a 5-watt light bulb. They belittle people for not bowing to the almighty developers. They come off more as “anti-community” than the others being “anti-growth.” Mudcat and Nuk don’t care if the politicians and the chamber of commerce lied. I think it’s pretty clear now that Sen. Seabaugh and Rep. Westmoreland loaded down their wagons with cash from the developer crowd. There is nothing wrong with wanting to keep your community a unique place to live.

LOL! And then you suggest that I and others have a lack of mental abilities? OK.

"There is nothing wrong with wanting to keep your community a unique place to live."

There is nothing wrong with having a different opinion about what kind of community PTC is and will be. That's why we have elections. That's why we have council meetings. That's why we have citizen groups and associations...the whole nine yards.

So tell me, which developers contributed to Seabaugh and Westmoreland's campaigns and how much? You state they are loaded with that money, so how much? Who?

NUK

I hadn't considered the location of the whiners' homes before, but there seems like an awful lot of them come from Planterra, Centennial or other obvious places to avoid like the back side of Target. It may be buyer's remorse, but more likely it is a reaction to their own stupidity - remember the Planterra group who didn't know there were industries in the industrial park or trains on the train tracks or planes at the airport?

With real estate geniuses like that critiquing the real developers, we don't have to listen to their whining or take it too seriously.
meow

Well, well, well....It's like a homecoming. When it appeared that you had nothing better to do with your time than to bash Brown and coronate Logsdon the Lesser it looks like y'all have come out of the woodwork to bash Brown one more time.

TDK affects only Planterra ? Incredible. Guess what, folks. Brown got voted out. He is relevant, how ???

This road will obliterate the PTC Master Plan. And why should we pay for it ? How about when TDK turns Crosstown into a major speedway connector to 54--- it will obliterate the school zone, the residential neighborhoods and will mandate traffic signals at the Parkway and Robinson. All this so the cars can go speeding past all those retail stores that will remain stagnant not because of traffic but because they cannot compete.

Yeah, bash Brown some more. That'll certainly convince folks that Seabaugh is honest, Lynn is smart and Pace cares about the community.

"TDK affects only Planterra ? Incredible. "

WHERE and WHEN did anyone say the above? No one here has. Just making it up as you go along?

Bash Brown some more? OK. He's a subject since he's railing against TDK and making BS accusations that Seabaugh was somehow bought off when he has the usual zero proof of that.

NUK

What do you call "Proof," NUK? If it looks like a duck, etc. Just because he hasn't been indicted doesn't mean much here.