Avenue-like shopping headed to East Coweta

Thu, 09/21/2006 - 3:04pm
By: John Thompson

East Coweta’s white-hot growth continued this week as the Coweta County Commission approved a major shopping center at the intersection of Ga. Highway 34 and Fischer Road.

The 192,000 sq.ft. center will be built on the site of the old Rare Plants Nursery and will resemble the Avenue in Peachtree City, according to developer Dennis Drewer and is expected to generate 8,200 vehicle trips on the weekdays and more than 9,500 on Saturdays.

The shopping center would be the latest development in a crowded field in the eastern part of the county. Two parcels directly across the street are already zoned C-7 Major Shopping and developers have outlined plans for more than one million square feet of retail in Tom Reese’s McIntosh Village just outside Sharpsburg on McIntosh Trail.

The 41-acre tract was rezoned from RR (Rural Reserve) with several conditions, including;

• A westbound turn lane and an eastbound deceleration lane on Hwy.34

• The realignment of Lower Fayetteville Road to match up to Fischer Road.

• Six feet wide sidewalks throughout all internal roadways of the center.

• All parking aligned with the buildings.

• Decorative pavers similar to those at The Avenue.

• Shaded seating areas throughout the development.

• Roadways in the center would be two-lanes with planted center medians.

Commissioner Paul Poole also added conditions to the rezoning that included no parking in the back of any buildings that bordered Lower Fayetteville Road, and no restaurants contiguous to Lower Fayetteville Road.

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Submitted by kemets on Tue, 09/26/2006 - 11:53am.

And they wonder why I shop on line. Peace. L(*

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Submitted by cowtipn on Fri, 09/22/2006 - 11:24am.

Dang, not even 2 miles from the current one. I think I saw some trees on 54 just north of the Peachtree Pkwy; we'd better hurry up and build a shopping center or a cracker-jack box neighborhood there before we lose out on all that tax revenue! We definately don't want to be accused of protecting our landscape.


Submitted by localpatriot on Fri, 09/22/2006 - 9:00pm.

What!!!!! Does this make any sense at all!!? Has anyone noticed all of the empty buildings...maybe for instance at the old Save Rite site at 154!!! - and what about further down on Bullsboro... - all those empty commercial spots - yet more and more land gets torn up and built up for "growth" - only for the buildings to be empty and an eye sore! Excuse me, if we are growing so fast, where are the customers? And what about this particular location where it is horse farms and residences. This developer better be up to speed on the current laws regarding light pollution and sound pollution - but of course, will anyone enforce it? Now that we have these brand new roads has anybody noticed that they seem to have no speed limit? How many of the county's teens will be killed due to excessive speed on this new and improved road we made to connect to Peachtree City when they very definitely don't want us there. Oh, now I get it, this new "Avenue" is meant to put PTC's shopping center out of business - just in case the citizens of Coweta decide that PTC has made it too much of an effort to come shop at the Walmart, Home Depot,etc. that they conveniently "hid" on the "wrong side" of the PTC tracks.

Submitted by melissafred on Sat, 09/23/2006 - 6:17pm.

Amen localpatriot. I've had the very same thoughts watching the new buildings being built near the PTC Wally World. Off the top of my head, I can easily name a dozen businesses in western Fayette & eastern Coweta that have gone out of business in the last year.

Call me crazy, but I have a thing for trees, grass, peace & quiet. How many stinking strip malls do we need? If you want Atlanta development, then move there and leave east Coweta alone. One of the nice things about the drive from PTC to Newnan is the countryside. Don't even get me started about that planned fiasco on the Coweta side of the TDK extension.

We've thoroughly enjoyed our time here in PTC and I enjoy working in Newnan. However, with all of the planned "progress" that will inevitably come, I'm really starting to look forward to moving and building our home on 9 acres in the middle of nowhere in another state in about 3 years. I'm not naming the state because some money-hungry developer will pounce on the fact that there are acres of trees & grass and figure out a way to get their filthy hands on that & ruin it all.

Does anyone know if the common man has any way to stop any of this development?

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Submitted by nuk on Tue, 09/26/2006 - 1:58pm.

If the land has a current zoning of say, Commerical or Residential, and someone wants to build a shopping center or houses, basically, you cannot "stop" them. You can fight re-zonings to the hilt(and likely lose in court)and you can also elect politicians who have the same idea for future land-use as yourself. You can use the PTC approach to where you try and shape the development working in conjuction with the developers instead of fighting in court, then losing(as PTC has discovered in the past), and then having zero-leverage with the developer.

What a lot of people in Fayette County miss the boat on is that most land that has been developed into either houses and especially shopping centers was ALWAYS zoned that way. Just because you move into a new development...errr..."neighborhood" doesn't mean that the land across the street isn't designated for commerical or even industrial.

In the end, there is always moving elsewhere. Since the US population keeps increasing, that elsewhere is going to one day also be developed, even if it's a terrible area. I guess there is always the Alaskan Natural Wildlife Refuge which is a barren wasteland(I LOL when I hear it described as "pristine by the media) with nothing around.

To a lot of people in the USA, it all comes down to a property-rights issue. People think: "Who the heck is saying I can't sell my land to a developer? Why can't I put a business on MY land? It's MY land, not the "community's."

NUK


Submitted by Hardtack on Tue, 09/26/2006 - 2:40pm.

I remember when I was very young, people would kill others over property line disputes!The disputes didn't even make sense sometimes, may just be over someone simply leaning over the line to look. So, what is going to happen NUK when we develop it all? Do we kill off some so we can develop some more? I'll tell you, we are going to live in skyscrapers or underground, OR, kill off each other in wars like the ones we have now. Stupid, isn't it? As to pristine land, there is NOTHING that I can think of that is more important than protecting our lives from the earth's destruction by man for profit. Development, once started, breeds ruination of natural systems that keeps us alive. Short sighters, like you, must also be controlled.

Submitted by PTCGA1 on Tue, 09/26/2006 - 5:51pm.

Has anyone noticed the seemingly oddball bloggers that claim they REALLY LOVE traffic and can't wait for City of McIntosh and City of East Coweta induced congestion in PTC? They invoke property rights, freedom,and call TDK opponents "California Democrats." Guess what, NUK" Your opinion only reveals that you are one of the minority that stands to reap LARGE profits from TDK. What is your occupation and who do you work for? I'm a conservative Republican, but I have seen the misery that can be inflicted on a municipality when a small cabal of developers gains control of a city government and sells out a city's birthright. You and your pack of developer friends need to find some other town to exploit.

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Submitted by nuk on Tue, 09/26/2006 - 7:19pm.

I don't commute up and down Hwy 74 everyday(or anywhere near the proposed TDK or East Coweta) so it's not going to affect me whatsoever no matter what happens. Beyond that, I am not going to see any impact on my wallet whether East Coweta is developed to the max or never touched.

Just like Steve Brown, it's always "someone is gaining something" if they hold an opinion different than one of the very shrill and very few in PTC. Very few people in PTC or Coweta are in the development business or stand to gain anything financially from whatever land-use comes about.

Maybe if some of you could argue logically without screaming THE WORLD IS ENDING, I'M MOVING every 5 minutes, people(aka voters) would take you more seriously. Judging from the last election held in PTC, the vast majority do not take consiracy theorists and panic-stricken people seriously at all.

NUK


Submitted by Hardtack on Tue, 09/26/2006 - 5:56pm.

He plans to benefit somehow, you can bet. He doesn't bother me though, what bothers me is that a small group of connivers, under the guise of doing good--all churchgoing conservatives, can control all of our destiny as to a nice living space. It ain't new, but shouldn't have happened here.

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Submitted by nuk on Tue, 09/26/2006 - 7:27pm.

New neighbors that don't act like the sky is falling when they see a new house being built. People that actually WANT to live here instead of non-stop threats to move that they never follow through with. Some who may consider more than one side of an issue for at least a minute or so. People with the ability to THINK long enough to realize that most people have opinions that sometimes having absolutely nothing to do with some sort of financial gain.

I went by Wal-Mart/Home Depot today. There were a LOT of people at both, seemingly enjoying the convenience of no longer having to travel to Fayetteville or Newnan for their shopping needs. I know I do! I have to say, I do indeed BENEFIT by having both stores right there. It's much more convenient, I use less gas, I save money, I don't have to deal with traffic and I get home sooner which means more free time for NUK. I LOVE IT.

NUK


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Submitted by nuk on Tue, 09/26/2006 - 3:42pm.

I've heard a lot of what you are saying coming from places like California, Massuchusettes, Vermont, etc. The mentality that once *I* move in, no one else can do anything with their land and no one else should be allowed to move in. It is the opposite extreme of "private property rights trump all" and is flatly Marxist in the idea that everything is community property.

I'm not for unbounded property rights. I don't think it's OK for me to turn my house into NUK's Whiskey A-Go-Go right in the middle of the neighborhood. There has to be a balance. Unfortunately, that "balance" gets of whack some times when it involves govt condemning/seizing land for developers to use at will or even BS like telling me I can't cut down trees in my yard. There were actually people in PTC whining about "THEIR shade" being gone because their neighbor removed a tree.

The answer to sprawl and ever-increasing population may not be easy to solve without trampling all over someone else's "rights." Why do you think colonizing the moon and other planets is getting attention? Land is finite and you got to put people somewhere. Myself, I favor very high density in housing, with JOBS and SHOPPING right there. Get people's lard-butts out othe car and walking to grocery stores, their employment, their kids' schools. Most Republicans howl like banshees when you say "density" or "affordable housing." They haven't got it yet. Same with Demo's who think the government needs to become the end-all to any land use and be able to deny anything at any time on a whim.

NUK


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Submitted by muddle on Tue, 09/26/2006 - 1:05pm.

What can we do about them? Can't shoot them (can we?).

I wish I was not tethered to a job in Atlanta. I have looked and looked, and there is just *nothing* within commuting distance--in any direction--that has not been or is not being cannibalized.

I want to move to Mayberry. Where is it?


Submitted by Hardtack on Tue, 09/26/2006 - 2:13pm.

Can't shoot developers, they can do nearly anything and never be charged with anything. Mayberry is Mount Airy, NC

Submitted by HarrisCountyGeorgia on Sun, 09/24/2006 - 11:13am.

I hear you! To make an automobile absolutely necessary by allowing the 'burbs to sprawl all over the countryside, what with Peak Oil and the coming Energy Crisis (actually here already) is past stupid- it's downright criminal! Developers, construction interests, and city and county officials are blinded to any semblance of far-sightedness by immediate gains. It is the get-rich-quick, instant gratification syndrome that is ruining not only the countryside, but the nation itself. My parents' generation may have been hokey or corny, but at least they tried to act like grown-ups and used a little long-term judgement. They wanted to preserve and conserve a few things to pass along to future generations. People my age (I'm 41) have taken the reins and seem to be trying to use up every resource as fast as possible- the next generation will have to fend for itself. This stuck-in-adolescence selfish attitude is going to have some harsh consequences, I'm afraid.
The Columbus Home Builders Association has put out the word that they are "sick and tired of the no-growth attitude of Harris County" and they're "not gonna take it anymore". These people live in Muscogee County, yet they presume to tell us rural folk here in Harris to get out of their way, so they can turn our quiet little towns and countryside into a suburb of Columbus! We are fighting them all the way to Supreme Court if we have to! Coweta County used to be a beautiful place. It still can be. Get active, get involved! You, I presume, work and pay taxes- you have just as much right to speak out about how you want your community to be as anyone else. Good Luck!

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Submitted by cowtipn on Tue, 09/26/2006 - 11:36am.

I know I've been sounding like a beaten dog lately, but it's not worth the effort. Money speaks louder than any protest and you've got to have a lot of it to get anywhere in Fayette politics. Fayette will always be my home, but I can't live here anymore.


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Submitted by bad_ptc on Fri, 09/22/2006 - 9:10pm.

"If you build it they will come."

I here you about teens and driving, mine scares the heck out of me. I wouldn’t sweat it to much though, traffic is only going to average about 20 mph when things get developed.


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