TDK a 'done deal' by Friday?

Tue, 09/12/2006 - 9:55pm
By: John Munford

PTC Council declines to vote on road fate

The Peachtree City Council declined again Tuesday night to vote on whether or not to extend TDK Boulevard into Coweta County despite projections that a development proposed for Coweta County will add 22,000 car trips a day to Ga. Highway 74.

But if a real estate closing happens as planned Friday, there will be no further chance for the city to halt the project because of a key element to the deal, city officials said. If the airport authority closes on the land, it must deed the right-of-way for TDK to Fayette County; in turn, Fayette County officals have agreed to guarantee Pathway Communities that the extension will be built to a currently landlocked parcel Pathway owns in the city near Line Creek and the airport, city officials said.

Time is of the essence for the closing on the right-of-way as a $2 million aviation grant to purchase land for the runway safety area at Falcon Field expires Oct. 1. Without that grant there are no additional funds set aside for the necessary right of way acquisition, meaning without those funds the project would stall again.

The land acquisition is considered an urgent matter by airport officials, as without the additional runway safety area, the future path of the TDK extension could have some vehicles interfering with the airspace set aside by deed for aircraft flight patterns, said Airport Authority Chairman Jerry Cobb.

Meanwhile, many Peachtree City residents are upset about the potential of TDK linking with the proposed McIntosh community development in Coweta which would bring more than 3,100 homes and 945,000 square feet of retail space right on Peachtree City's back door.

Friday's real estate closing is not necessarily a done deal, either, as some council members talked about possibly convening another meeting on the issue before the closing takes place. That discussion took place amongst council members after council hastily opened and closed its planned special called meeting in less than 10 seconds after taking almost three hours of input and discussion in a workshop (non-voting) format.

In that caucus after the meeting, councilman Stuart Kourajian said he didn't want to make a decision so soon after the workshop, and he said more information could be forthcoming that might change his mind on the issue.

During the workshop, each council member except for Kourajian and Cyndi Plunkett indicated they supported the extension of TDK. Several council members justifying their stance by saying they need to follow through on the TDK deal with Coweta County so they can try and convince Coweta officials to change the plan for the 3,100 plus homes proposed for the McIntosh community development that will be right off TDK on the Coweta side.

Several council members said the lack of the road extension wouldn't stop development in Coweta County.

Several officials said the urgency should be to work towards getting state officials to widen Ga. Highway 154 in Coweta County from two to four lanes to provide a better access to I-85 for residents in the Sharpsburg and proposed McIntosh community area.

Although a number of Peachtree City residents urged council to kill the road plan because of the traffic problems it would create both on the south side of the city and for weekday commuters on Ga. Highway 74 between Crosstown Road and Interstate 85, several business representatives from the Braelinn Village Shopping Center urged the road to proceed in hopes of creating more traffic to revitalize business there.

Others questioned the benefit to Braelinn Village Shopping Center since the McIntosh community would have about 945,000 square feet of retail space under the current plan.

Mayor Harold Logsdon said he too lives on the southside of Peachtree City and doesn't want to see more traffic in the area, but he felt the city needed to live up to its agreement in part because it doesn't want to endanger its relationship with the Federal Aviation Administration, which has given $17 million to Falcon Field for improvements.

Logsdon also said TDK has been on the books for more than 10 years and is part of the proposed improvements for traffic between Peachtree City and Coweta, including the widening of Ga. Highway 54 West and the pending realignment of Rockaway Road with a traffic light on Hwy. 74 and the pending widening of Hwy. 74 with six lanes from Hwy. 54 to just south of Crosstown Road and four lanes from that point all the way to Ga. Highway 85.

"We'll have gridlock if we don't plan our roads," Logsdon said.

Rutherford said the city needs to look into affecting change on the McIntosh community plans by looking into one discrepancy over how much land is needed for a land application system to dispose of sewage created by the development.

Plunkett said she wasn't sure Council had all the information it needed to make a decision.

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Submitted by Spear Road Guy on Fri, 09/15/2006 - 9:21am.

I fly back into town and read that TDK is a done deal by Friday. Where is the leadership? Where is the concern for the people and our future commutes?

Harold Logsdon, infamous Peachtree City mayor, has been one of the most horrible influences on our city in its history. His election was the scam of the century. He has lied at every turn and danced for the local developers whenever they clapped their hands.

The council says in the articles, "We don't have enough information." And, "We need to take care of our roads." This begs the question, Is anyone steering the ship? Does the ship even have a rudder?

Oops, those huge developments are going to bring about 75,000 additional cars on our roads. Is that taking care of our roads?

I didn't see one mention in any of the articles where city council members might have spoken to anyone in power in Coweta County. Why? Sitting on your hands saying you don't have enough information won't get you very far. Not a single councilman stood up in the Logsdon void.

This news has certainly ruined my day and my future quality of life in Peachtree City. I guess the joke now is that Logsdon makes Bob Lenox look like a choir boy. Bad day for us.

Vote Republican


Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Fri, 09/15/2006 - 9:51am.

Every time someone talks about autobiles, the figure is higher. The article mentions 22,000 and you throw out 75,000. It will be YEARS before it gets to that first level.

Seriously, did you think we should have sat on the 54/74 interchange? Do you think we should close Rockaway? Should we petition the State to have 54 closed off at the County Line? All of these would help to keep folks off of our roads. Should we close off Peachtree Parkway at the City Limits? I don't think becoming isolationists is the way to go. I realize we disagree, but sometimes reasonable folks can do this.

I'm of belief the road will be built, we have the time to get our roads in better order to deal with this. We also have time to petition our Representatives to have Coweta to 4 lane 154 to the interstate. I'm still not convinced that everyone that will move to this area in the next 10 years wants to drive up through PTC twice a day.

IF our Council chose to shut this down, the outcry would be much greater from folks in PTC than if they go forward.

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Submitted by CCB on Fri, 09/15/2006 - 3:15pm.

McDawg, the Spear Guy is talking about all three of the huge developments together with his traffic number. He's right too.

Look, with the declining economy, it makes a lot of sense to try to build before the housing bust and get that area established. You can get reasonable loans from the bank on development right now. It's going to tighten up later on.

I profit off of development, no apologies. I feed my family and send my kids to college off of construction and real estate development. Yes, the Chamber and Senator Seabaugh lied about the impact of the development. If they tell you otherwise, they are lying. Their antics make our entire industry look bad. Contrary to popular belief, their are some moral people in the business.

Mr. Reese, Mr. Leslie and Mr. Walker never lied about what their intentions were for the property. No one ever asked them. So blame the newspapers reporters. They always intended to go large scale.

Traffic is going to be bad. Traffic is bad everywhere in the Atlanta area because we are a growing successful place to be. Your commute will take a lot longer, but, remember, you have a job.

The city council made the right decision to make us a regional player in the housing market again.


Submitted by dopplerobserver on Fri, 09/15/2006 - 4:44pm.

Mexicans get the jobs, you get the money.

Submitted by dopplerobserver on Fri, 09/15/2006 - 4:43pm.

So, what is wrong with a road in Coweta to I-85? Traffic is bad and will be badder, OK, lie down and die now! Don't you think the Coweta developer knew about the Fayette extension into Coweta, long ago? Not much of a developer if he didn't. Bush said today that if he wasn't given permission for his people to torture combatants he would simply not have anything and we could just suffer the consequences---that is what I heard anyway---sounds like what you say.

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Submitted by kimberlyinptc on Fri, 09/15/2006 - 7:47am.

"Plunkett said she wasn't sure Council had all the information it needed to make a decision".

This is what's wrong with this whole story...Unless the City Council has been under a rock for the past 2 weeks they ALL know what the public overwhelmingly wants from them. How much more information do they need? No TDK extension. Let Coweta rape their own citizens, our elected leaders do a good enough job of it here already.

Maybe I'm just a dumb blonde, but I cannot understand how building a road through our city that only financially benefits Coweta County is a good thing for PTC. I know we can't prevent Coweta from building whatever they want, but why do we have to supply the path? If our electeds say no to this, Coweta will be forced to find another way...


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Submitted by bad_ptc on Fri, 09/15/2006 - 10:36pm.

What’s good for PTC was never the issue. The point of the Tuesday night’s meeting, with all 20 city residents, was to justify the deal.

Nobody showed up to speak their mind so don’t start now.

Why weren’t you there?

I was.


Submitted by Sweet Honesty on Thu, 09/14/2006 - 10:22am.

I guess all that citizens can do now is to continue to voice their opposition. And I agree that this is a strong enough issue that members will be remembered for where they stood on it. It could very well determine whether or not they will be re-elected. The damage will be irreversible once it is done. You know, on the Peachtree City website you can make one click and send an e-mail to all of them as a group. I already have. It can't hurt. Please take time to do it, if you haven't already. Thanks.

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Submitted by nuk on Thu, 09/14/2006 - 10:21am.

The issue isn't the need for more traffic to the shopping center, it's the exorbitant rents charged by the shopping center management that are grossly out of line with other shopping centers in similar areas. Sure, they'd LIKE to charge 6K a month for a very small space, but the market won't bear it. WHen you see tenants like Arnie's and Mucklow's go to the expense of buying and building their own stores across the street, that tells you that economically it is a better investment to go through a large expense initially than pay ridiculous rent in Braelinn. Others simply move like Haynes Pets and now Valentino's reportedly.

Get the rent charged in line and you'll have more tenants. Until then, store owners have better, cheaper alternatives.

Oh yeah, something that started happening a couple of decades ago is still very true: grocery stores make for poor anchors in shopping centers.

NUK


Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Thu, 09/14/2006 - 1:54pm.

Anything new to it? I live in Spyglass and we frequently eat at places at that center. I know the owners of WK Cafe and I also enjoy Valentinos. Where are they thinking of moving to?

Submitted by johenry on Sun, 09/17/2006 - 3:09pm.

You have to remember that different businesses survive (and thrive in some cases) on different margins. Some types of businesses can tolerate higher rents.

As for Valentinos, they were packing it up to move into Bobby Lenox's new tennis center bomb. They had made the deal and started to move the operation. Tennis Center Manager Virgil Christian lied to the Valentinos owners and made promises he couldn't deliver on. The Valentinos owners took a financial beating and ended up escapting back to the Braelinn Shopping Center. This was all part of Steve Brown's clean up job of Lenox's dirty development authority legacy.

The service at the tennis center has really improved and it's a great place for ALTA activities.

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Submitted by secret squirrel on Thu, 09/14/2006 - 10:03am.

There are some troubling comments in this article. Specifically, Logsdon is concerned about maintaining a relationship with the FAA and thus wants to complete TDK. Some council members want to maintain the relationship with Coweta and thus want to complete TDK. And the business owners in Braelinn are also concerned about their relationships.

Did I miss something or aren't our elected officials supposed to represent and maintain their relationship with their constituents? Frankly, the FAA and Coweta County officials can go to hell. How about maintaining your credibility and respect amongst Peachtree City citizens? The elected officials who come out against this now will be remembered at the next election. More importantly, those who support it will also be remembered.


Submitted by dopplerobserver on Thu, 09/14/2006 - 10:32am.

We had a mayor who had some interest in what the citizens wanted. He was crucified, nearly. Growth, development, tennis centers, airports, tax providers (shopping centers who turn over every two years), realtors, banks, insurance companies, lawyers, CPAs, doctors, hospitals, these are the constituents unfortunately. We are the great unwashed and ignorant.

Submitted by AirOne on Thu, 09/14/2006 - 9:56am.

To:

Mayor Harold Logsdon
Ms. Judi-ann Rutherford
Mr. Stuart Kourajian
Mr. Steve Boone
Ms. Cyndi Plunkett

Ladies and Gentlemen,

I urge your intervention in the pending TDK extension and that you cease all support and further consideration of the proposal. As a resident of Peachtree City I feel that the influx of traffic created by the proposed McIntosh development in Coweta county will have impacts that are both major and beyond the jurisdiction of the council to manage. In effect, the extension of TDK will be your "Pandora's Box". Once you allow the road to be constructed you will have no ability to restrict the traffic that will use it.

It has been mentioned that the traffic that will increase through Crosstown and onto Ebenezer Road might revitalize Brealinn. It will not. With the significant construction of over 900k square feet of retail this development might, in fact, be the death of the Crosstown shopping area. New stores and a great new road to get them there will take Peachtree City Citizens and their sales tax revenue to Coweta County. Is that in the best interest of our home town?

I respectfully submit that our Citizen Newspaper poll as of today suggests, overwhelmingly, that your constituency is in favor of ceasing the extension of TDK. While the 228 people who have "voted" in that poll (see below) may represent only a small sample of the population of Peachtree City, the number is both statistically significant and representative of relative "activist" type of people...those who will vote for you in the future, or not.

Respectfully,

(Name Withheld)

Submitted by dopplerobserver on Thu, 09/14/2006 - 10:27am.

The only thing that will improve Braelinn is to have better shopping and interests. I have never heard of a shopping center doing well with poor shopping. Which comes first, the chicken or the egg? Good shops or customers? You say extra traffic would bring in good shops? Not likely since it failed from the git-go. Too late then. Want to improve Braelinn, or others? Put in a large doctor's office complex, along with 3-4 hundred condos right in the middle. Also, a police sub-station. Do a Red Lobster, a Picadilly, and take out the Nails, twenty-seat restaurants, and a sewing place of all things. Anybody who works for the Development Authority have that kind of imagination?

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Submitted by ManofGreatLogic on Wed, 09/13/2006 - 9:50pm.

I think we should make things fair. Since the developers were allowed (probably encouraged)to kill all the trees in the West village, could we do the same in the other parts of town?

Why not?


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