I have limited dealings with the Quran. My dealings are with the people themselves. There is a Muslim center on Jeff Davis Dr.
Go there one day and talk to the people and see for yourself how they are. Your opinion will change about them

I'm still waiting for credible, fact based, specific arguments for allowing the Muslim center. Ones that don't involve only seeking the opinions of those desiring to build it.

I can name a lot of arguments against it but not many for it. But this country was built on the basis of religious freedom - I'd like to think that we have not lost the tolerance for other beliefs, but other than Bobbys first reply, no one seems to be wanting to argue the point - and since Bobbys second reply has yet to appear, I have to assume he understood and accepted my point that asking potential troublemakers if they are troublemakers doesn't make much sense.

Anybody?

In the United States of America we don't normally worry about a church going up. That is why it is important not to mix any type of religion with a government. We haven't worried much about Catholics, fundamentalists, TV preachers (there is a bunch you need to do something about---they aren't a religion), Seventh-day Adventists, Holy Rollers, Hindus, Buddhists, and a thousand off-shoots. Why pick on Muslims in America? If they are subversive the FBI should arrest them.

Sir I did agree with you last post as far as asking potential troublemakers if they are troublemakers doesn't make much sense.
I do agree with that aspect of it. I also do not have a good reply as to how you can go about getting the answer you are seeking. All I know to do is talk to the people that are here.
I also believe that if so many people do not agree with the Muslim center being built then it shouldn't be built. Nothing good will come out of it being there. The Muslims will always be on the defensive and the people of PTC will always be either scared and hateful or on the offensive. Too much chance for violence from both sides and that will accomplish absolutely nothing.

I also want to apologize for not getting back sooner to you on your question.

I too have a life - or at least a job and a wife - so I can't post as often or as quickly as I like, or take as active a part in local politics as I would like so I do understand that.

I think it would be "Politically Incorrect" to allow the Muslim Center at this time, unless it was very vocal and active in condemming any Musöim acts of violence. However, I think such a Muslim unit cannot exist - it would probably be the first place the opponents attacked.

I was actually hoping to hear from anyone who had arguments for the center but there doesn't seem to be any from the millions who read these posts in the 58 minutes or so they are available.

It would probably come as no surprise that I would prefer the Muslim whatever not be built. I can't believe the discussion is about preventing the mosque from being built. If the land is owned by the "Peaceful Religion Folks" and they meet the zoning requirements then why would anyone think they could prevent it from being built? Come on...you know that. Are you trolling for and arguement? Oops Sorry.

Let's think about that suggestion for a mopment.

Imagine I find a Mosque or other meeting place which really is only a disguise for an Al Qaida recruiting station and control for a sleeper network.
I'm gonna walk in, have a 4 or 5 hour conversation with them and they are going to tell me the real truth???

I theenk I'm gonna neeeed a beeger box.

I do know Islamic people - including several co-workers. They are very nice and friendly - I consider them my friends - but what does that tell me? Either they are very nice and friendly or they are sleepers doing their job as trained.

Unfortunately, deeds are louder than words. As sad as it is, this kind of loss-of-trust stemms from 9/11 and is probably the worst national part of the tragedy. We can't trust lions to promise they won't eat sheep.

What I'm looking for is outside evidence that most (and not just half, either) muslims abhor the 9/11 kind of violence and are prepared to fight against it. So far, I haven't heard the kind of outcry in the general Muslim world I need to hear to be convinced. I also haven't seen the actions and statements from Muslim leaders I need to think a Muslim Center in Fayetteville would be a good thing.

Any other ideas?

In the artice you state all these Governors,and our Alanta Mayor. Well, what do you think they would say it was all political statements I just wish you could here what they want to say....Another blogger says not even half is bad oh boy that will make me sleep better at night. OUR COMMUNITY DOES NOT WANT IT HERE!!

There are bad people in every religion. Sometimes it makes me want to avoid all religion because of the few nuts.
Yes some muslims are filled with hate, they will twist the koran to fit their bad behaviour.
Some christians do the same thing. A few of them use their bible to justify bombing abortion clinics.

Extremists are never correct, and their motives are flawed.

Says Christians and Jews are to be converted, enslaved, driven out or killed, depending on circumstances.

Just because they will not tell you that, to your face, does not mean that is not what they believe.

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Say what you want, because the First Amendment gives you that right.

It also gives the Muslims the right to build their mosque.

Case closed.

Control your fear. You'll be alright.

I seem to have a problem with you putting all the Muslim society in one category. That is like saying all Blacks are druggies and rapists. Like saying all whites are mass murderers like Bundy or Manson; or all American Indians are savages.
You cannot place ONE generic tag on people because of their race, religion or place of origin. If that was true then ALL PEOPLE LIVING IN PTC WOULD BE CLASSIFIED AS STUCK UP RICH SNOBS. Not the case
Quit being such a blatant racist and try to actually get to know some of the people you are obviously afraid of.

Since when?

Actually read for a change and learn. Stop biting into propoganda and using the dearly loved liberal derogatory label to cover everything you disagree with.

You don't know squat about Islam.

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You are attacking ALL Muslims. All Muslims are not radicals. You do somemore research and find out that less than half of the Islamic community is radical. You see the 9/11 terrorists and that's all. So now every Muslim is a terrorist? Does that mean that every German is a Nazi? Every Black is an African? Get your head out of your butt and actually THINK about what you are saying. You can find all the little news reports, polls or whatever you like. It still doesn't change the fact that not ALL Muslims are freaking radicals. Most just want what we do? A safe, free place to live and worship

You do somemore research and find out that less than half of the Islamic community is radical.

Less than half eh? And this is supposed to be "encouraging" somehow?

You don't know squat about Islam.

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What is your religion smart guy

Biblical literalist Christian. Non Denominational.

Been studying religions for 45 years.

Before you say it, my beliefs are of the type that got them killed in the Inquisition. Just to save you some time on that one.

Also enjoy science and history.

There has never been an Islamic government that is tolerant of Christians and Jews. Ever.

Even those that claim to be render them second class citizens with fewer rights.

Do some study on Mohammed. Not from Islamic sources. They twist history, big time.

Do some study on the Ottoman Empire. Or more recent news of Islamics slaughering Christians, by the thousands, in areas of Africa and the Middle East.

Do some research on what the suras, addressing Christians and Jews, say, literally. Not with some Muslims attempts at explaining them away.

Do some research on what Sharia law demands happen to anyone who converts to Christianity. Death Penalty.

I do not base my beliefs on the propoganda released by Muslims. I base it on history, their Holy Books and the teachings that are between them. Not what is for public consumption.

And your source of my being wrong is...?

Not trying to growl here. Just want to make you think.

Sorry, but I could post links and stuff. But not much point. They just get lost, real quick, when the fall off of the Blog's main listing.

I put those elsewhere, from now on.

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Never heard of this "biblical literalist group", sounds like a literary or reading club. My guess is that this is not but a small group of religious bigots and nuts headed by guess who? Yes! PTC Guy! The illuminated representative of God in PTC, Georgia and the world, the last word on who is right and who is wrong, what is truth and what is false! The Nam veteran who did machiavelic work of all sorts to rid the world of communism then and from Islam nowadays. Salute to his diatribes and enlightened blogs, and to his ridiculous and mithological reference website!

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I have noticed a pattern here DragNet. Seems there is a lot of people who feel the same about PTC Guy. Seems he has an answer for everything. Wonder if he was a part of World War 1?

The pattern that I have noticed is that a number of people have excoriated PTC Guy for having the audacity to think that what he believes is true. Isn't it terribly arrogant of him, after all, to suppose that Christianity is true to the exclusion of other major religions?

But I wish to offer two observations:

(1) To insist on anything less from him is to insist that he refrain from believing Christian doctrine itself. PTC Guy did not make up the notion that the only way to God is through Christ. This is part and parcel of Christian faith.

Interestingly, the sort of rhetoric that typically accompanies the criticisms of people like PTC Guy includes the silly claim that "we should allow people to believe what they want." But these people appear to be insisting that PTC Guy is not entitled to believe a central claim of Christianity. And, of course, for someone like PTC Guy to think that his beliefs are exclusively true, so as to preclude, say, Hundu claims, is not for him to be involved in strong-arming people to believe as he does.

What shall we say? Is he not entitled to believe what he perceives the Bible to teach? Or is it that he is permitted to believe it but is not permitted to talk about what he believes? Or is it that people want him to become a relativist and embrace the fashionable but utterly incoherent notion that it is merely "true for him"?

(2) *Every* belief, religious or otherwise--including anti-religious beliefs--is such that to hold it is to take what it affirms to be exclusively true. That is the very logic of the notion of truth. I've said this before, but to believe something *just is* to believe that it is true. And to believe that it is true is to believe that its denial is false. For this reason, Christian fundamentalists are no more exclusivist than are Buddhists or Hindus, atheists or relativists. If (per impossible) relativism is true, then *all* non-relativistic beliefs are false.

Perhaps there is more going on with PTC Guy that someone may find objectionable. But there is nothing objectionable about anyone thinking that their beliefs are true--and exclusively so--because this is entailed by having any belief, regardless of content.

Muddle I have read and enjoyed all of your blogs. You bring real insight and thought to them. PTC Guy is entitled to his opinion. As am I and everyone else here. PTC Guy seems to want to cram his opinion down peoples throat and if you challenge him you don't think or are uneducated on the matter so he starts putting up all these links(mainly to a site run by him) that say exactly the same thing he said; most of the time WORD FOR WORD.

He has his opinion I have mine you have yours someone else may have one totally different. The FACTS are that PTC Guy attacked the Muslim people in a whole saying they are a murderous people. Given the RADICAL ISLAMISTS are. The majority of Muslim's are not. I have said it time and time again. What he is saying is like saying that all German's are Nazi's or all American Indian's are savages. He categorized a culture and began to bash ALL who are in that culture.

Do you agree or disagree

Thanks for the kind words.

I wish I was in a better position to assess whether Islam is a "peaceful" religion.

Doubtless, there are many fine people who happen to be Muslims. And many of them maintain that the Islamic "extremists" are just that--extremists. They insist that those in the Wahabi sect (and similar) have distorted the teaching of the Q'uran.

The most important question as I see it is "Who is right?" Which groups represent the true Islam?

Within Christianity there are all sorts of disagreeing groups. Consider Unitarianism for example--a denomination that seems not to place a great deal of stress on what the Bible actually teaches. "Biblical literalists" like PTC Guy might observe that their beliefs and attitudes have their origin in something other than what the scriptures *actually teach.*

What I wish to know is this: are those peaceful Muslims faithful to their own scripture, the Q'uran?

And my lingering worry is over the fact that, at least my layman's perusal of the suras leaves me with the impression that Muhammed himself was not the sort of fellow to push daisies into rifle barrels.

So there are two distinct questions:

(1) Are there peaceable Muslims?
(2) Is Islam a peaceable religion?

The answer to (1) is clearly "yes." My jury is still out on (2).

I quit reading them awhile back.

Who are you taking about?

PTC Guy of course-Make it short and to the point.

Wasn't sure. I know some of mine get a little long when I'm responding to some of his moronic statements

yawn.....

You say you have studies all this information. You say you know the truth. "Do some study on Mohamed. Not from Islamic sources. They twist history, big time."
What makes you think the information you have isn't twisted? Why must you bash the Muslim people at every chance? I do THINK you moron and I don't appreciate you implying that I/We don't. Just because we don't HATE ALL MUSLIMS means we don't think? Is that what you are saying?
Seems to me you are the one who doesn't think. You read books that say Muslim's are bad. They do this and they do that. Muslim's kill and Christians save. Books tell you this so it must be true right.
Have you thought that maybe the people who wrote these books had a chip on their shoulder with the Muslims?
I don't care how long you have been "studying" any of this. Means nothing to me you pompous self righteous ass. YOUR WORD IS NOT ALL TRUTH!!!! God's word is truth. You are NOT God.
God says love ALL man. Not LOVE ALL MAN EXCEPT MUSLIM'S
You try doing more thinking for yourself and not reading something from a book and regurgitating it here.

You should read again your own PTC Guy=Moron ranting. Buddy...get a grip. You don't make sense and it looks like you singled him out as your own personal target. At least PTC provides research, facts, and other informative opinions from various sources. Here's what you provide:

I do THINK you moron and I don't appreciate you implying that I/We don't

Great rebuttal with the moron comment. You've convinced me I need to think like you. Would you please clarify the rest of the sentence?

Just because we don't HATE ALL MUSLIMS means we don't think? Seems to me you are the one who doesn't think.

Let's see here. PTC Guy researches and studies Islam and he disagrees with the premise that they are a peaceful religion so that means he HATE'S ALL MUSLIMS. Where do you get that? He doesn't think????? Do you????

Means nothing to me you pompous self righteous ass. YOUR WORD IS NOT ALL TRUTH!!!!

I don't care how long you have been "studying" any of this. Means nothing to me you pompous self righteous ass. YOUR WORD IS NOT ALL TRUTH!!!! God's word is truth. You are NOT God.

It's obvious you've studied alot. The opinions, research and opinions you've provided have added much to this debate.

God says love ALL man. Not LOVE ALL MAN EXCEPT MUSLIM'S.

You're right about this one and I'd bet you a cool grand that PTC Guy agrees with you completely on this point.

You try doing more thinking for yourself and not reading something from a book and regurgitating it here.

I think he has thought about this subject for himself. I'd also bet you that he formulated his position on Islam based on more than just reading "a book". Regurgitating it? Nice one dude.

Wow Bobby. It appears that all you need is an AK-47, a mask on your face, and you too could riot and protest in a Middle Eastern city with foam drooling from your mouth. Hey man...would you make an attempt to chill a little bit and think about what your saying. Your contributions to this site equate to no more than that of a frothing rabid dog.

Between your attacks on the sherrif's department and your unconditional defense of Islam it makes one wonder about your stability. I'm beginning to think there might be more to your dog shooting episode than what you've eluded to. You're version Means nothing to me you pompous self righteous ass. YOUR WORD IS NOT ALL TRUTH!!!!

You write well and your comments are appreciated.

Old School

Do you have something to add there OldSchoolFootball or are you just here

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Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize it was a private club. It's nice to hear from you there Gatekeeper Bobby, king of tolerance. Now then, since you asked, I'm here to make you look like an idiot and I very much appreciate all of your help. At my age, I don't think as fast as I used to. Now, clean up your vile language young fellow and read .... you MIGHT actually learn something. And thanks again for your help, you did a fine job!

DIDN'T ASK WHY YOU WERE HERE OLDTIMER. I ASKED IF YOU HAD SOMETHING TO ADD. WHY DON'T YOU ADJUST YOUR BIFOCALS AND TRY READING YOURSELF. AND BY THE WAY YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT MY LANGUAGE CHECK YOUR OWN AND CHECK YOUR ATTITUDE WITH PEOPLE YOU HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT.

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Why don't you clean up your mouth and scroll down and read. I think you will find several comments that, if you can comprehend, you will find enlightening. One of the comments actually elaborates on a quote from the Christian Science Monitor that refers the Cordoba in the tenth century. So, if you have a problem with my comments then stop having your mom explain them to you and read someone elses. By the way, using all caps makes you look even more out of control bobby boy You need to learn to respect your elders but thanks again....you make my point for me every time you 'blog'.

First off that needs to be the ONLY reference to my family you make. I am very protective of my parents, sisters, my wife and kids. I haven't made any reference to any ones family nor has anyone else made a reference until you. Leave the families out of it there is no need for it.

Second, I did read your first two posts and as I asked before do you have anything to add to this discussion. Your first two were more of your sarcastic crap that you seem to spread here. If you have something intelligent to add to the debate add it if not go back to talking about you little football team and stay out of it.
Me writing in all caps makes me look "out of control". Right on there pal. I am out of control. Lots of fun too. At least I don't get all bent out of shape over a high school football game. What's wrong old man? Trying to relive your "glory days".(Did they even have football back then?)

You all keep posting blogs about me. Just means I'm making you think a little and seems like I'm getting under your skin.

My "attack" on PTC Guy as you call it was warranted. In his GREAT WISDOM of everything he decided to imply that that we don't think. He attacks the Muslim community from knowledge that he got from books. Books that someone wrote who very possibly HATED MUSLIMS.
I am beginning to wonder if he has ever met a Muslim. They are not all bad people and I believe there are a bunch of people that agree with me.

NOW SINCE YOU HAVE DECIDED TO MAKE THE IDIOTIC REMARK AND IMPLY THAT I AM A TERRORIST I WILL ALLOW YOU THIS REPLY.
THE COMMENT YOU MADE WAS ASSINYING. NO NEED FOR A COMMENT LIKE THE ONE YOU MADE. I HAVE MY OPINIONS AND YOU HAVE YOURS. I HAVE NEVER SAID PEOPLE WERE NOT INTITLED TO THAT. YOU MAKE SILLY ASS COMMENTS LIKE "Wow Bobby. It appears that all you need is an AK-47, a mask on your face, and you too could riot and protest in a Middle Eastern city with foam drooling from your mouth."
JUST BECAUSE I "DEFEND" A COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE WHO YOU THINK ARE ALL TERRORISTS MAKES ME ONE AS WELL? GO AND MEET SOME OF THE MUSLIM PEOPLE AND SEE WHAT KIND OF GENEROUS, GRACIOUS PEOPLE THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE.

MY ATTACKS ON THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ARE OBVIOUSLY WARRANTED. PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT IS HAPPENING AROUND HERE.

GIT REAL Get real. You fall under the same category as PTC GUY. A Racist Bigot who doesn't care or like anyone who isn't a WHITE SUPREMACIST

MY ATTACKS ON THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ARE OBVIOUSLY WARRANTED. PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT IS HAPPENING AROUND HERE.

I do pay attention and I still support our sheriffs department. Blindly? Nope. If Bruce did wrong then he needs to be dealt with. I haven't formed an opinion as my factual knowledge of the accusations are limited. I'll reserve my judgement. In regards to you and your story.....well, let's just say that I am skeptical and I also feel there's more to the story than the one you've given us or are unwilling to admit too. But don't get out of shape with me as that is just my personal hunch.

GIT REAL Get real. You fall under the same category as PTC GUY. A Racist Bigot who doesn't care or like anyone who isn't a WHITE SUPREMACIST

Soooooo....because I believe that Islam in not a peaceful religion then that makes me a Racist Bigot and a WHITE SUPREMACIST? Thank you for clarifying the category that I fit into. I wonder if the Muslims in Bosnia and in all the "Stan" countries appreciate your views that only people of color are to be considered Islamic. Guess they're just wannabes.

Daily I read about Muslims all around the world bombing, killing and persecuting their infidel victims. Which book am I getting that out of? Every now and then we hear about some nutcase that calls himself a Christian causing harm to a non Christian. A rare event indeed.

With the violent nature of Islam there is no doubt in my mind that if it weren't for the strong law enforcement we have in this country the rest of us would be under assault from these hateful you-know-whats. So Bobby Boy I don't even need to read one of PTC-Guys books to know that many of these people would take you and I out in heartbeat if given the chance.

So if that makes me a Racist Bigot and a WHITE SUPREMACIST to desire a safe world in which to live and raise my family in then so be it. I will wear your titles for me with pride. Other than that I stand by statement that you are as eratic as I described you before. But...that's just my opinion.

"Daily I read about Muslims all around the world bombing, killing and persecuting their infidel victims."

You read everyday about this? Let me guess THE NEWSPAPER or maybe you hear about it on THE NEWS.
What is going on right now in the Middle East? A WAR. Good news doesn't sell papers so naturally you won't hear about the majority of the people who just want a normal civilized life where they are safe and free. You keep bashing me for defending the Muslim people. I have never once said ALL MUSLIM'S ARE GOOD. The majority of them are.
The RADICALS are the ones who are causing issues not the standard everyday Muslim.
I know many Muslim's and respect them for who they are and not what a handful of people have done or what I hear on the news. I will ask you this: How many Muslims do YOU and PTC Guy know? I mean really know? Talk to from day to day. Sat down with and listened to what they had to say;what their feelings were on the matters in the Mid East. Do you know any?
Just because I THINK for myself and don't let the news or "history" books cloud my judgement you decide to bash me.
I have also said from the beginning that I was going to use this blog to ATTACK the Sheriff every chance I got. I have never denied that nor tried to hide that fact. I have personal problems from MANY years ago with him and what I have told here is what happened. Believe it or not I don't care. When I started writing on here hardly NOTHING bad was said about Johnson. Suddenly after my first blog seems some people are coming out and speaking up about the corruption in the office. As for attacking you and PTC Guy there Git Real; when I get attacked I fight back. You and PTC Guy decided to make it a personal issue apparently so I give back what I get.

Maybe that is the problem with PTC Guy and Git Real; they are some of JOHNSON'S LAP DOGS

Yep. More than one.

Worked with one for years.

In a discussion one day, a worker said I was nuts to say Hamza would kill him if his Imam ordered him to. He was his 'friend.'

So, I told him to ask Hamza, who was standing there. A Sunni, by the way.

He asked and Hamza said he would without hesitation.

One company, in Atlanta, I do service work for is all black staff. We are friends and they do not trust their Muslim neighbors.

Even living next to them and talking time from time, they are distant and stick to their own.

I am a member of an Islamic discussion board, but on longer post there, as others who are not Islamic ceased to post, as well. You know you are second class the second you enter.

Challenge claims about Mohammed's, based on historical fact, and you are immediately warned you will get banned if you continue. You are not allowed to question. You are here to learn the 'truth' and they need to prove nothing to you.

They are Muslim first.

So, yea. I have knowledge about Islam, beyond books.

By the way, I have read a number of their theologians claims, from their sites, about history and such. What a massive rewrite!

Where does YOUR amazing knowledge of them come from? Did you actually go to the links I gave and read what the suras of the Quo'ran say about Jews and Christians, in example?

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Most of the time you think right and in this case skepticism is ok.
But this problem has been going on for 20 years and a lot of people have had to turn their heads the other way for this "dipping" to go on.

Here's the example. Husband and wife are in a divorce. The wife wants to know what assets the husband has. The husband may make the legitimate claim that he has assets that the wife is not entitled to. But when he says "But I am not going to show you my records" you have to believe he is hiding things. If Randall said come look at my records but you can't spend it Commissioners that would be one thing. But in this case he won't even let the taxpayers know about the records. That ought to draw your skepticism! This has gone on for 20 years and all the inside yokels know it.

PTC Guy said: "There has never been an Islamic government that is tolerant of Christians and Jews. Ever."

Under Muslim rule in Cordoba, "Most Jews and Christians living in Iberia were 'Arabized', embracing the language and much of the culture it fostered. But they were not required to give up their faith, although some did convert. The status of Jews, who had led 'an abysmal existence under the Visigoths', improved dramatically, and many rose to high positions."

"Most illuminating is the way the society transcended religious differences and embraced complexity even in periods of political instability"

http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0725/p15s02-bogn.html

Among other places.
Jackass.

Read your own article.....

http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0725/p15s02-bogn.html

after your quote it then states "But this thriving world was brought to a tragic close by the forces of cultural puritanism and religious orthodoxy, spurred largely from the outside by Muslims from North Africa and Christians from northern Europe." Gee..... sounds like the begining of a rift between the peace loving muslims and those bad ole Christians abc1234.

You are quoting an article from the Christion Science Monitor....... that talks about the 10th century!! Duh...... two major problems bud, First - it's the "Christian Science Monitor"....second, it's about something that (aledgedly) happened in Cordoba in the mid tenth century. That's hillarious!!

Its something that actually did happen. Its in various sources not just christian history. Just as Christianity has its own radicals so does Islam

An exception to the rule. Maybe the rest of them might learn from that example.

Git Real - abc1234 used an example from one-thousand years ago in Cordoba!! That's sooooo liberal!! LOL Since the Muslims want us to live in the 13th century, I guess that's even a bit early for them to be the terrorist, murdering, facists they have morphed in to. Good research there abc!!

It may be 1000 years old but it's still and example. LOL.

Thanks for the updated information.

I lived in England for ten years before moving back to this area, In places like London, Manchester and Leeds/Bradford (to name a few) Muslims will buy houses in one area of the town and continue to buy over a period of years until they are the majority. Small
english grocery stores that were in that area were forced out of business because the muslims would not buy their stock, as these business were closed, muslims bought them and sold food that met the muslim dietary needs, spoke mostly their native languages and spread from one community to the next. This invasion of sorts will not happen the same way here due to the fact the communities are spread over a large area and far less compact then an english town, but its possible.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/BurtPrelutsky/2006/09/11/jihad_this!