Raise our TAXES??? For crying out loud we are taxed enough already.. How about CUT SPENDING and END WASTE.. and how about ENDING FRAUD.. It's amazing how zero tax liability people want to raise everyone elses taxes..

btw.. Healthcare reform what exactly is your idea of reform?

The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them. ~~Patrick Henry
"Illegitimus non Corborundum"

Her idea for healthcare reform is for you to pay. What a country.

BTW, I wonder if Pakistan has read the captured Taliban commander his Miranda rights?
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My idea of health care reform is not to have you pay for me! It has to do with covering pre-existing conditions, with insurers not being able to drop clients because they got too expensive, and other similar things. And tort reform. As to raising taxes, yes, I'd rather see a small raise now, along with some spending cuts to reduce the current debt.

Mom to 3 (and all of their friends, who love to hang out at my house-- LOVE THAT, almost always know where they are!!!)

Please enlighten us on how we can provide the degree of healthcare that you desire. Oh, guess how those evil insurance companies would cover their cost if pre-existing conditions, as you acknowledge, become too expensive? Perhaps by BIG rate hikes.

Now about the tax and budget thingy. What budget item would you cut and how much more do you want us pay?

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The Government can NEVER just raise your taxes a little bit.. Take the Cigarette tax for an example..(promise broken) 159% tax increase.

Energy taxes, Banking Taxes, Medical Taxes, Soda taxes, Carbon taxes, Sin Taxes, and on and on and on..

They spend always more then they receive. We will need MASSIVE spending cuts NOW. Cutting taxes ALWAYS raises revenue to the FED.

Combine the two and we might have a chance.

The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them. ~~Patrick Henry
"Illegitimus non Corborundum"

. . and your idea(s) is where there is supposed agreement! So why the constant NO vote? POLITICS!! Setting up for the next election . to h--- with the needs of the American people!! Stick with the original organizers of the Tea Party movement. They have moved away from Palin and her group! We are close to getting health care reform with those ideas that are important to you - and the majority of the American public.

This is an interesting desire that I will make tranfer to another insurance to make a point.
In this example, Joe just wrecked his 2009 Dodge Avenger. He was not insured, but thanks to a newly passed law, he was able to contact State Farm and get insurance on his vehicle and have them retroactively cover the car and cover the wreck. The insurer was not allowed to contest this and had to eat the costs. The insurer, realizing that their ability to make a profit has suddenly become very questionable, has no other choice but to raise the rates on all insurance that they carry. They decided that they could not afford to cover the thousands of "retroactive" accident claims that suddenly hit the company with new policies without substantial rate increases.

I am curious as to how this would work in healthcare. My brother has Fabry's disease and his treatment is $10,000 every two weeks. This is a pre-existing condition that another insurer would be forced to pay if he changed insurance or demanded a new policy. How are these costs covered if we cover everyone's pre-existing conditions without discrimination in the future?

Since he is being held in accordance with the Geneva Conventions and international law he is not entitled to Miranda. He'll most likely fall under section 31 of the Military Code of Justice. The Obama administration won't torture him, therefore they can act under the established rules of war and question him in accordance with international law. All of the problems caused by the Bush administration, and struck down by the Supreme Court, came because they tried to abandon international law to justify their illegal torture and set up a Soviet style gulag. The Supreme Court ruled correctly and wisely in every case.

Call it a hunch but, I suspect that the Geneva Conventions are not on the Pakistani's radar screen if you know what I mean. That government is in a very precarious situation.
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....but for discussion sake, let's determine if the recently captured Taliban Bigwig had the choice of incarceration sites:
a. Would he choose Guantanimo?
b. Would he choose to remain solely in the custody of the Pakistani Military?
c. Would he martyr himself by his own hand?
Most of my sources (from a previous life) tell me that they all prefer Gitmo. Further, should they end up without US oversight, most would choose option 'c'.
One does have to admit that these guys do maintain a higher standard of living than their brethren incarcerated outside of US control where the rulings of the Supreme Court or International Law have little influence.

For the sake of the discussion, let's assume that he is not insane. Give that, he definitely would not choose option B, remaining in the custody of the Pakistani military. As for option C, it's funny how none of those higher up on the food chain in the terrorist movements ever feel the obligation to martyr themselves. It seems like although they feel the call for others to reap the reward of the 72 virgins and they are more than willing to train, supply and incite them to their fate, somehow they themselves are never selected to please Allah in such a manner. For the life of me, I cannot think of a single instance. Therefore, I going with historical precedent and ruling out option C also.

The man knows his countrymen and he knows his culture. My guess is that he will do everything in his power to avoid both. I'm going with option A, Guantanamo.

Great answer! Who knows, some five years hence he may well have a job security somewhere here in the USA courtesy of the good old boys/girls at Foggy Bottom.
Next time you visit a convenience store...well, you never know.
I'd say it's nigh time for an adult beverage, but its a gym night. Have a great one!

It has become cliche to say Socialism is found everywhere.. But unfortunutly it's also very true..

You have the RIGHT to remain Silent if you say anything the New York Times is bound to repeat it.

You have the RIGHT to an Attorney since you are a Terrorist we will gladly spend millions to give you one..

Should you decide to answer questions we will not act on anything you say until it clears at least 4 committees.

Knowing and Understanding YOUR RIGHTS which we have given you in spite of our Constitution are you willing to answer my questions without an attorney present but we would advise against it.

I hope so CY.. Obama and crew needs to be able to go on National TV and declare them guilty.. Thus guaranteeing a mistrial.

The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them. ~~Patrick Henry
"Illegitimus non Corborundum"

Just take a few minutes to review some 'facts' regarding the use of Miranda and the results of 'legal' interrogation by US law enforcement. The judge who sentenced Reid was correct when he said these terrorists don't deserve the title 'soldier'.

and Biden going on TV "Guranteeing a CONVICTION"? That taints the pool and almost assures a Mistrial.

The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them. ~~Patrick Henry
"Illegitimus non Corborundum"

Thank you for sharing your knowledge of our justice system. Why don't you look into the trials of the terrorists that have been convicted? Please share.

why deflect and look backwards.

And btw.. all those Terrorist tried.. Includes classes of ECO terrorist,Domestic and others.. NOT just AL-QAEDA. Pull those numbers up..

The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them. ~~Patrick Henry
"Illegitimus non Corborundum"

Jeff has been polite and succinct in answering your questions. I purport that you do your own research. You're always asking for 'references'. What are yours? Now don't get upset - and lose your civility.

1. Saved the jobs of service providers in many cities: Police, Firefighter, and Teachers

2. Stopped the downslide of our economy - and slowly is turning it around.

3. What about the previous administration telling us to spend, spend - while we were at war? (and had little knowledge of the 'war' budget) Obama and his administration didn't have anything to do with the previous 8 years - right?

4. America's 'deficit' -if we don't listen to the visionaries in our midst and catch up with the other industrial nations in energy production, etc, etc., etc. - will be even more difficult to explain to the future generations.

5. There are a lot of problems to be dealt with. Only by working together will solutions be found. Americans are taking a good look at the naysayers - and those who say no, but take advantage of proposals that they offered, voted against, and then use the funds in their own districts. That is becoming pretty transparent daily - among both Republicans and Democrats. Are there any statesmen in the US?

How do you explain the "jobs saved or created" in non-existent congressional districts and non-existent Zip Codes?

I'm not sure what y'all expected or expect now. One year ago, when Obama came in the economy was contracting at more than 5% now it's expanding by more than 5%.

Here's a graph of the jobless rate:

The Recovery Act worked

A stunning turn-around considering that the month Obama took office we lost over 720,000 jobs for just that month and the trend was accelerating.

When Bush took office in 2001 the DOW was at 10887. When he left eight years later it was at 8000. Now it's back up to 10309 in just a year.

If Obama was a Republican taking over from a Democrat with Bush's record, every one of you would be hailing this as the most impressive recovery in history.

I realize that the jobless rate is too high but if this trend holds, millions of new jobs will be created before the election in 9 months. And don't forget that all of the Republicans were calling for allowing our largest manufacturing industries, like the automotive industries, to fail and be sold to overseas investors.

Obama miscalculated by saying that the jobless rate would not go over 8% or whatever number he used. It seems to me that quote is all the Republicans and the talk shows have because all the numbers are trending toward a sharp recovery.

FAILURE.. and you will see the evidence soon.

"In the first year of the trillion-dollar stimulus, Americans have lost millions of jobs, the unemployment rate continues to hover near 10 percent, the deficit continues to soar and we’re inundated with stories of waste, fraud and abuse," Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said in a statement. "This was not the plan Americans asked for or the results they were promised.”

Mr. Obama and Biden claim that the stimulus package has created or saved 2 million jobs. Republicans point out that more than 3 million jobs have been lost since passage of the bill.

A new CBS-New York Times poll found that just six percent of Americans believe the stimulus act has created jobs. A CNN poll last month found that nearly three-quarters of Americans think the stimulus money has been wasted.

"Evan Bayh (D-Ind.) is retiring, but he's not the retiring type, ridiculing congressional job creation efforts on "The Early Show."

"If I could create one job in the private sector by helping to grow a business, that would be one more than Congress has created in the last six months," Bayh said."Politco

Bayh had a 20 point lead in the POLLS and he still is calling it QUITS.. Why? He knows what's coming...

Seems like no one agrees with you... Not even some in your party.

The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them. ~~Patrick Henry
"Illegitimus non Corborundum"

We all know that trillion dollar figure is a canard since only a little less than a third has actually been spent but... whatever.

How soon did you expect a turn-around from losing 720,000 jobs a month to job growth?

How soon did you expect the economy to go from shrinking at 5% to growing at 5%?

How soon did you expect the DOW to recover more than 20%?

Obama did..

We lost 473,000 jobs last week.. and that number does NOT include the underemployed or discouraged.

Maybe Obama should have focused his attention on the ECONOMY and JOBS this last year instead of pushing a program (Healthcare) that was not in any way in crisis.

It is going to get worse Jeff..

Let me say this I hope and Pray I am wrong.. I hope and Pray you are correct. China will keep on buying our debt, Printing Money does not ramp us up to heavy inflation, that the FED buying up the bonds no one else wants will not crush us, that we are noy burying this Country with the Debt being raised, that our Politicians will stop this madness.. But HISTORY tells me I am probrally going to be shown as correct on this one..

I hope and Pray I am not..

The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them. ~~Patrick Henry
"Illegitimus non Corborundum"

We did not lose 473,000 jobs last week or even a tenth of that. Total cumulative unemployment claims rose to that number, not just new claims by any means. Quite a different thing.

Check the graph:

The Recovery Act worked

There will obviously be fluctuations but the trend is clearly toward recovery and positive job growth.

As to pushing the health care program, I am able to handle more than one ongoing task during a year and I believe that any President should be able to also. I am neither as shocked nor as dismayed as the talk show hosts and their followers pretend to be about Obama not devoting 100% of his time to unemployment. We lost 720,000 jobs the month Obama took office and about 20,000 last month; a remarkable turn-around.

I take it that you won't answer my questions as to how long you thought it would take to recover from the worst recession since the 1930s?

"February 18, 2010: 9:47 AM ET NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- The number of Americans filing first-time claims for unemployment insurance climbed unexpectedly last week. There were 473,000 initial jobless claims filed in the week ended Feb. 13, up 31,000 from the previous week's upwardly revised 442,000, the Labor Department said on Thursday. A consensus estimate of economists surveyed by Briefing.com expected claims to slide to 438,000. The 4-week moving average of initial claims, which levels out volatility, was 467,000, down 1,500 from the previous week's revised average of 469,000."

Jeff exactly where was I wrong...?

What are you trying to say.. When the numbers go down Obama get's credit.. When they go up the numbers don't count? REALLY?

AS for your question I answered it.. Read again. and one sided arguments from the administration is not proof Jeff..

I checked the board members from your link:

another Union team leader...etc..

No surprise these guys would present dubious info...

The proof in in the people. and NO ONE BELIEVES IT..

The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them. ~~Patrick Henry
"Illegitimus non Corborundum"

I usually look at BLS statistics instead of initial unemployment insurance claims which are not indicative of jobs lost in a particular week. But, when in doubt, go to BullAndBear. Here's their chart:

Five-year Initial Jobless Claims

You are right about initial unemployment insurance claims but even that chart shows an overwhelming improvement and strong trend.

Here's a graph of unemployment and it appears the trend is again in the right direction:

United States Unemployment Rate

We can both agree that it is distressing.

the entire CNN Money account.

CLICK HERE

The 4-week moving average, he said, is a more accurate measure of where jobless claims currently stand. "We're better than we were a few months ago, but I think the labor market is not improving as rapidly as we had hoped," Vitner said.

Stay tuned.

Please identify non-existent congressional districts and Zip-Codes.

and non-existent jobs to go with them...

Oh and don't forget the sale of one Lawnmower that created/Save 50 jobs.. In Fayetteville, Ark.

"In June, the federal government spent $1,047 in stimulus money to buy a rider mower from the Toro Company to cut the grass at the Fayetteville National Cemetery in Arkansas. Now, a report on the government’s stimulus Web site improbably claims that that single lawn mower sale helped save or create 50 jobs."

Just how big is the stimulus package? Well for one, it has doubled the size of the House of Representatives, according to recovery.gov, which says that funds were distributed to 440 congressional districts that do not exist. Link Here.. Scroll the list to VIEW all and the totals received

You ask it it was supplied... Anymore questions...

btw.. Blaming Bush is getting OLD... How do you explain OBAMA not BUSH Quadrupling BUSH's DEBT? Bush had 9/11 and 2 wars.. A Dot COM bust.. and on and on.. Oh don't get me wrong.. He helped Democrats and Republicans spend like mad. You do remember Democrats had control of Congress the last 2 years of Bush right? A major run up in debt occured during that time as well.. I did not hear any Dems yelling about spending then.. Just saying..

The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them. ~~Patrick Henry
"Illegitimus non Corborundum"

CLICK HERE

Blaming Obama for the original deficit is getting old. 440? In 'red' states? Do your research in more than one area. It gives a little more light on the truth of this mess. No one has denied fraud and corruption on both sides. THIS IS WHAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE SICK OF. Legislators are hypocritical when they turn their noses up at the bankers and CEO'S who 'screwed' the people and put money in the lawmaker’s pockets. . .and we're 'STUPID' if we don't learn as much as we can about the TRUTH rather than just spouting 'talking points'. The present system is broken - but we have an opportunity to fix it. Let's not let 'them' divide 'us' from searching for the truth in this mess.. . and the truth of this was ‘outed’ in November of 2009.

Factcheck.org the site you linked to agreed with me.. They are also "skeptical" their words of Obama's claims.. So what was your point..

All you have to do is google 440 non existant districts and you get hundreds of storys. No not just from Right wing sites.. but from ABC, CBS, MSNBC, AP and on and on... The facts are.. THE RECOVERY ACT aka Stimulus was loaded w/PORK and pet projects..

2/3rds of the money has not been spent...WHY?

If it was supposed to "STIMULATE" the economy and "CREATE" jobs.. then why have they held back the funds..

The Reason so they can release the MONEY just before the MID TERM ELECTIONS.. So all of a sudden the economy will get an artificial kick in the pants to make them look good for their districts.

PURE POLITICS

USING TAXPAYER DOLLARS for ONE PARTY's benefit. That's the actions that STEAM us.

The new unemployment numbers just came out.. GUESS WHAT the ECONOMY is not fixed.. 474,000 in ONE WEEK filed for unemployment.

NOT COUNTING THE ONES THAT HAVE JUST GIVEN UP!!!! OR UNDER EMPLOYED!!!

But yet we get OBAMA coming out and saying HIS Stimulus has adverted a 2nd Depression.. Ask the ones that are out of work about that..

It is time for them to stop playing politics.. and stop Campaigning.

If you are not a PROGRESSIVE you should join us we are trying to put a stop to this MADNESS.

The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them. ~~Patrick Henry
"Illegitimus non Corborundum"

Is to allow interested persons to read the 'facts' without the 'spin'. You are a 'tainted' progressive, in that you don't base your opinion on all the facts - and you're not the only one. It is difficult to get all of the facts today. I also tend to put my spin on issues due to my biases - that's why non-partisan sites are important to visit once in a while. . . . like it or not - we are going to have to depend on electing legislators who are willing to work for the American people - not just to get re-elected. That means we need to have informed voters.

If you think I am a "'tainted' progressive".. Your website factcheck.org AGREED WITH ME.. How is that spin..????????

This from your link factcheck.org..

"We’ve been skeptical in the past about the Obama adminstration’s claims of having "created or saved" hundreds of thousands of jobs when in fact the economy was losing jobs. Those claims were just estimates. Now the administration is purporting to count real jobs — and we’re still finding reason to be skeptical."

Maybe you should read them before you link them.. Just exactly how did they dispute anything I said???

The numbers I GAVE YOU IS FROM RECOVERY.ORG OBAMA'S OWN WEBSITE.. How is that spin...???

You have eyes but still cannot see.. AMAZING..

The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them. ~~Patrick Henry
"Illegitimus non Corborundum"

You have eyes but still cannot see.. AMAZING..

. . when one reads an analysis and only can 'see' those points that agree with his/her position. The 'facts' point out that there are some positions cited that don't agree with what you are 'spinning' here. Everyone can make up their own mind - based on 'facts' - not what David's Mom or SL 'see' or ascertain as supportive of their view. Have a nice day.

"The 'facts' point out that there are some positions cited that don't agree with what you are 'spinning' here"

Show them to me PLEASE.. Pull up the factcheck.org that you linked to and Point by point show the spin...

I await your analysis..

The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them. ~~Patrick Henry
"Illegitimus non Corborundum"

With your superior analytic/comprehension skills - I'm sure you don't need my help.

You made the charges.. but I understand.

The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them. ~~Patrick Henry
"Illegitimus non Corborundum"

No charges were made - just an observation.

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