It is up to the Council to try and do whatever they can to manage the "quality" of the development, even though they are somewhat limited in this case.

What irks a lot of people is that Plunkett has totally lied about her votes on this issue as well as her cowardly reasoning that "she just couldn't risk" a Pep Boys or Hooters coming in as threatened by the developer. I think that is the real issue. She did a no-sell job to the voters on this issue and then turned around and blatantly lied about it. That's poor leadership and not what she was elected to do. Some votes are tough and are going to make some citizens unhappy, but it's any elected official's job to explain to them WHY and the reasoning behind their vote. Cyndi did a lousy job of that and broke a lot of the trust factor.

Of course, a lot of PTC is too damn ignorant to realize what is zoned commercial already and what will be developed at some point. That doesn't stop this crowd from being quite noisy and exposing their ignorance constantly, and it side-steps the reality of the fact that commercial property gets developed and all that can be hoped for is that it matches the general consensus of what a quality development should be. A few more lawsuits against the City over this simple issue will probably happen before some wake up and realize that property rights extend further than just what one might like.

How do you define quality for this area? Is quality a giant well landscaped shopping center with no occupants? Because if that center ever gets built that is what it will be. I personally think a gas station or a drive thru restaurants would have been just fine in that area.

Nothing wrong with that. IF you think that things will never turn around and spaces will sit empty forever, I'm glad we disagree. That said, the property is zoned commercial, and you have stated that a gas station and a drive through restaurant are your cup of tea. I'm not sure that is best for PTC, but hey, it may be what we get if some folks get their way.

I am not a pessimist. I know things will turn around. However, PTC is a small town and even during the best economic conditions we can only support so much retail. If we over build too much eventually we will turn into one of those nasty looking towns with shopping centers full of nothing but nail salons, Chinese restaurants, dollar stores and for rent signs. T

The council can't keep the property from being developed.

I agree, we are full up RIGHT now with centers, but we just can't keep the property owner from developing. I say work for the best available.

You neglect to mention that. The cats is out of the bag, but we can punish those who have benefitted by voting this way in council

And a proposal did come before Council...it's not going to sit vacant forever.

Nothin' there yet. And you wait and see what is in the plans..ain't nothin' like what Cyndi fantasizes it will be.

Pay attention to what the plans are for Lower Fayetteville Rd. and Hwy 34, on 2 of the 4 corners. There will be a giant sucking sound of what CCD had planned for the Three Stooges traffic light development by Planterra.

We can either build nice stuff here, or let it be built in Coweta, just over the line. Refusing to try and work at all with developers (who are PTC property owners and tax payers) is not the way to get higher quality developments. Obviously, the Haddix followers see it differently.

Hopefully, it will work out for the best for all of us.

The NO crowd wanted to slam the door closed the minute they got to PTC and lack any awareness of how PTC was built in the first place or why it is considered such a great place to live. Half the same idiots don't realize they live in neighborhoods that were zoned commercial or industrial not that long ago and that someone had to change the sacred land use plan or they'd be living elsewhere. They think it was some kind of divine magic that PTC just suddenly appeared, waiting for them to move in and immediately whine about everything being done wrong in the past and future.

There was a time where PTC really could extract some meaningful concessions from developers and it was a lot more of a win-win situation than an adversarial relationship. That's all changed as time as gone on, and some of that is directly the City's own fault. Allowing Longhorn to bulldoze everything in sight after they had denied several others that same variance shortly before was one of the big starting points to developers and the City not seeing eye to eye too much. Electing some people who were openly hostile to anything besides NO NO NO didn't help at all either.

Maybe I've become too cynical, but I've sometimes wondered if the Logsdon, Plunkett, Boone crew intentionally wanted to turn 54 West into a "red light district" in an effort to get TDK restarted.

Knew in my heart there was no way Beverly would print my letter-to-the editor so will share it with this small forum and know that Haddix will respond. At least the Fayette News has promised it will see ink on their pages.

I would like to pose three questions for Haddix:

1. Why did you lie about my ties to developers and continue to do so when assured that I had no connections to any special interests?
2. Why did you quit your City Council position to run for Mayor?
3. Why will you not divulge your educational history?

I'll put pen to paper, briefly, on each of these questions . No one can or will prove you fabricated some links between me and developers due to my wife’s long association as a realtor with The Home Source . Why would you not accept my word that this was not true and is there any link to your overarching need to try and pack the Council with a Haddix-clone majority? The school I attended had an honor code and we were sworn to uphold that in all we did. Do you recognize the principles of honor, Don?

Why not do the job you were elected to carry out and fulfill your four year obligation as a councilman? Mayor Haddix would have the same voting power as Councilman Haddix. Was it necessary to subject the City to this extra cost and trouble so you could ‘feel’ the power and try to have your clones piggybacked into office? Do you have the strength of personality and leadership potential to shape the direction of the City versus surrounding yourself with “yes, Don” folks?

If you successfully completed third grade or sixteenth grade, I don't care, but ….. I do care that you refuse to disclose your background when asked to do so. There are a VERY few sacred items when you step up to the plate to run for office and a full disclosure of biographical details is not one of them. If you've reached your position with a GED, tout yourself as a self-made man and be proud of it. You may even wish to mention a few short military schools as most vets do in their bio.

I will dutifully respond to comments on my post by anyone signing their name -- assuming I am not again fooled by Morgan:)

Vote Plunkett !

Les, From what I've seen the group still running aint "yes, Don" folks. And I do respect your opinion, but can't fathom to think of another four years of Cindi the Marie Antoinette of the council poo pooing the wishes of us just plain folk.

Happy Thanksgiving

Geez Les, as I’ve asked you in person, what have you done to elicit this kind of reaction from the “fine folks” of PTC. I’ve always thought you were an honest and upstanding guy and I can’t find fault with the questions you posed. It certainly stands above the almost daily 3-2 whining I see on here. Kind of makes me wonder about GOIL’s motivation in recommending that 3-2 not respond to you. I guess I can only conclude that I’m a lousy judge of character, and since I’ve already voted as you suggest I’ll probably come to regret my voting choices. Since you don’t like the anonymity, I’ll let you know who’s asking when I see you sometime.

My school had a very simple code "A cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do". I find it interesting that you will wink at offenses with Plunkett that you would tolerate to be punished in another. That sir, is a satire upon soldiership and honor.
Plunkett's post card was dishonest, plain and simple. Even her supporters acknowledge it. Her voting record is public knowledge.
Politics can be detestable. Your note is equally so. I hope that she fails to become elected.

to Les Dyer. Stay off from here till next Wed. at least. There is nothing to gain from this.

Mr. Dyer-Does your wife salute you before you go to bed every night? Do your kids line up in formation every morning for review?

How long have you been retired from the military? Will you just get over this strident former military crap you present? It's almost 2010 and we don't answer to you. We don't report to you and you are NOT in the military anymore.

And since you have already answered your own questions to Mr. Haddix, why should he bother? Please take a vacation.

The venom you spew is certainly misrepresentative of the military background you possess. The sooner you get over the fact that you lost, the better off you'll be.

Could it be that your ties to the current mayor and Ms Plunkett are forcing your hand in an embarrassing and needless post? Perhaps you joined their bandwagon under the guise of becoming one of the few who know better about what is best for us mere citizens.

Shame.

But, then again, welcome to the club of city council losers.

Hoping Mike King is a real person and I'm not fooled again by another alias.

What does my intense dislike of Haddix's campaign AND my friendship with Ms Plunkett have to do with a military background? I've been retired for 20 years so may publicly voice my opinion as I did in my blog reference Haddix's untruths and non-disclosure attitude.

Venom from your side of the aisle but disturbing truth from mine.

PS Let me clear the air on another subject. There was NO disrespect meant to any of the fine candidates remaining in the run-offs. Don's attempts at loading his "side" with clones is his alone and in no way reflects on those civic-minded individuals.

PS I had at least expected a response from ole Don (not answers), but he has Cal to brandish the bully pulpit for him in that yellow sheet called a newspaper.