It is my understanding, from Palin's own words, that without the lipstick she is a Pit Bull!

Not a pig.

She said that the only difference in her and a pit bull was lipstick!

Anyway, the crowd reaction to Obama's comment was quite obvious about Sarah Palin's comment. However since the pig comment has been around and used heavily for many, many years, it was best that he left it alone and didn't try to explain it to the crowd.

That would surely have indicted him! He ain't no fool, but he might be many other things. I just don't know where he came from!!!! Same place as Dan Quayle, I suppose, but Dan wasn't running for President right off the bat.
Let us hope John Lives the four years.

Lot's of good liberal talking points here - meaningless, but good if you are a liberal.

I view this whole lipstick thing as childish on both sides and insulting to the average voter with a room-temperature IQ.

What I have learned out of it is that one candidate can't think on his feet and lacks the judgment to reject the schoolyard taunts written by the juveniles running his campaign. The other candidate thinks for herself (yes she has speechwriters like all of them), can think on her feet and has some class and genuine, mature good humor even when dissing the other side.

So which type of leader do we deserve? Depends upon the intelligence of those that vote in November. And that worries me.

Look at it this way:
A man that wants to lead America as President is getting his speech material from the funny papers!

Where is he going to get ideas on foreign policy - From watching reruns of the '3 Stooges'?

Just so it clear

it's McCain and Palin in the cartoon Fred..

They are the ones parroting change but not going to change a thing.

I see and read daily of Obama's plans and ideas to look to new ground to make this country better, but the Rovian idea is to co-opt Obama.

More republican lies will get us no where.

"A man that wants to lead America as President is getting his speech material from the funny papers!"

Seems better than McCain getting his dirty political tricks from Rove and Company. How 'bout that new McCain sex-ed ad. McCain's getting nasty, nasty, nasty and I smell a Rove.

btw - Great cartoon! I uploaded it for my computer background.

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"You can lead a Republican to the truth, but you can't make him think."

Toles told FOXNews.com that after the first use, Post editors got in touch with the campaign and Obama made sure to credit Toles when he used the line on Monday. Toles said he is OK with Obama’s use of his line now that it has gotten credit.

However you left out one very important line from that quote you pulled from 'Foxnews.com"

"Toles told FOXNews.com that after the first use, Post editors got in touch with the campaign and Obama made sure to credit Toles when he used the line on Monday. But in Tuesday’s speech, he again used the line without referencing the cartoon."

So, the Obama campaign was caught plagiarising a comic, but it's o.k. since they now supposedly giving credit to the original author, but then on Tuesday he got caught again, so he really didn't do what he said he would do. Just another character flaw, I guess.

Plagiarism is definitely a problem in the Obama campaign. Heck, since both Biden and Obama have been caught, you might even want to call it an epidemic!

By the way, if this isn't an issue, why are you even bothering to comment on it?

Come on Fred, stay on message, the Republican message.

Oh, that's right, this IS the Republican message, to talk about garbage and whine a whole lot, since y'all can't talk about issues and the dismal record of Bush/McSame.

Keep playin' those games, Fred. Republicans have nothing but games and distractions.

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"You can lead a Republican to the truth, but you can't make him think."

Dude, I don't intend to berate you, but you spelled "winning" wrong. It should be "Republican winning" like the headlines.

"Your, yore, you're all idiots." (T.Floyd)

Issues like Obama's plan to "reduce taxes for 95% of Americans"
That's interesting, because close to 50% of American income earners don't even pay income taxes, so that is quite a trick.

What this really is, is a socialist "income redistribution" policy.
You see, someone who doesn't pay taxes is going to get a "credit" of up to $2,000 under the Obama plan. And where does that money come from you ask? Why, it comes from people who DO pay taxes.

It's Income Redistribution, plane and simple! Obama is using the money of people who actually pay taxes to BUY the votes of people that DON'T pay taxes.

Interesting. One of the wealthiest Americans compared his income tax payment (percent) with the percentage of income his secretary paid. SHE PAID A HIGHER PERCENTAGE! We need to fix that! . . .don't you agree? Most middle-income earners don't have businesses to take advantage of 'tax breaks'. There will be many more people who pay lower taxes next year - because they didn't earn much money this year. (Unemployment) Unfortunately - those who don't pay taxes usually don't vote. There are people who would like to make this a fight between the 'haves' and 'have nots'. Unfortunately - this year, due to our economy, there are more 'have nots' who will probably vote. Will the majority win? What do you think?

Well, I bring up a relevant issue, and no Liberals except for David's Mom wants to discuss it, and all she does is bring up class warfare and typical socialist, (liberal) talking points. She and her viewpoints are completely irrelevant. (Sorry Ms. David's Mom, but that's the way I see it)

So much for bringing up "issues" with Liberals - they don't want to discuss them because they know how bad Barack's "plans" will hurt America.

"So much for bringing up "issues" with Liberals - they don't want to discuss them because they know how bad Barack's "plans" will hurt America."

Funny Fred, independent economists have gone on record showing that Barack's health care plan will insure more Americans and be more feasible than throwing healthcare to the "we need a bailout" free market.

And, oddly enough, those making under $200k annualy will see higher tax rates under McCain. What's up with that. You can go to online tax calculators and see for yourself.

The majority of people who become uninsured come from affluent households. U.S. census data cited for 2001 showed that 57% who became uninsured had household income of more than $75,000.
Barack's plan to mandate health coverage at gunpoint is not welcome.

The NIHCM report does not recommend a mandate to require health insurance. U.S. voters show increasing distaste for insurance mandates of any type. California voters recently defeated a proposal to require everyone to carry health insurance. Massachusetts, the only state with a legal requirement for health insurance, recently hit economic stumbling blocks in executing the vision. It is not possible to legislate affordability of health insurance and more than it is possible to legislate that gasoline of grocery prices be more affordable. Legislative initiative in many states are misguided and will only result in further health insurance crisis like the situation in Massachusetts or New Jersey. New Jersey experimented with health insurance legislation in the 1990s that triggered one of the nation's worst levels of uninsured individuals and health insurance prices that are often higher than typical mortgage payments. In contrast, states with the least restrictive health insurance regulation now have a wider range of affordable health plans available than ever before.

Bottom line - keep government out of our lives. They have proven time and time again that they can't do anything right.

Because you were clear, respectful, and you didn't call me one bad name. I could get use to this! Real conversation. At any rate, I am not arguing whether health care should be reformed or not. I posted my string of posts to show:

1: Those saying Barack's policies will harm America have not been very good at predicting so far:

Palin will cinch the women's vote for McCain

Rev Wright will kill Barack's campaign

Acorn will kill Barack's campaign

Hillary will be Barack's running mate

There is no recession

The economy is fine

2: I also am pointing out that non-partisan economists deem McCain's plan of TAXING health care contributions, giving families a $5000 credit, and requiring them to find their equivalent health care on the free market (which was valued at $12,000)will put the middle class at much greater risk. So, when I say McCain is dangerous for America's future, I'm not just talking "...bomb bomb Iran"

Back in July of this year Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA), the Chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, Stated that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac "are fundamentally sound, and not in danger of going under...and prospect going forward are very solid". This is one guy who can't admit that he was wrong in the whole game. Meanwhile both parties have accepted resposibiltiy for lack of oversight. But, two years ago President Bush and Senator McCain said that there needs to be more regulation over these two entities. McCain proposed legislation that would require it; however it was quickly voted down by self serving politicans that had their walets in mind, and not the interests of the people.

“Every time you vote Democrat God kills a kitten.”

Fred Garvin's response to you was a cut-and-paste from an online insurance sales brochure! LINK

Fred is not much for original thought.

And here I thought we had lead a republican to facts and made him think. Now I find out Fred Garvin not only lied about his or her real name, but now Fred is also a plagiarizer. Dang!

It was still a nice posting from, but not by, Fred Garvin. May be he is softening up somewhat.

"I can't wait until tomorrow, because I get more lovable every day."

Amazing. I guess writing styles are kinda like fingerprints.

I gotta give it you. Looks like you busted him allright. The "diva" was online for several minutes more after you posted this. No rebuttal and no more posts period. No real "diva" could keep quiet when someone challenges them.

You seem as excited as a male fox viewer during a Palin debate. Let's see. I bet you fellows don't sign your checks moc or snappy, do ya? I'll happily stay anonymous, but if you gents would like to lead by example and share your real names, we are all ears; you betcha!

Isn't it odd that diva and mizzponder show up at the same time???Nothing from either mental giant all day. Then suddenly they both appear......hmmmm, mighty interesting. Could they be one in the same? Or is it someone just masquerading as an idiot? Or two different idiots?

Like you diva, I'll remain anonymous. Anybody that exhibits the anger issues you do (real or not) really doesn't need anyone's real name.

Tell you what. What if you stopped posting up in herr?? Now that is "Change We Need". bwwwwwwwaaaaaaahhhhhh

did you ever check with Cal to confirm I have a different IP address and email and I could not possibly be "mizzponder?" Check with Cal. Cal will tell you. Check with him. I ain't never been mizzponder. Heck! mizzponder will tell you

Just funnin with you. I've lost all traces of our last conversation, but please know I have no personal animus with you. I have even written that you can carry your own ruck sack on the battle field and I like that. i wish more from your side would stand in the pocket and take the fast balls.

Hey, I appreciate you saying you have no personal animus with me. In reality, our animus could only be toward the persona we portray here. It's hard to dislike someone when you really don't know the real them. Tell you what....let's agree here to attack the message and not the messenger. Deal???? I guarantee future disagreements, but I promise not to call you a "typical liberal douche bag". (But, maybe something else if you don't stick to the deal...)

By the way, the fastballs really sting sometimes but you gotta keep playing. And, I'll give you this too....you throw a mean fastball.

I know, I know....someone will write "you guys get a room". To me, if someone extends the olive branch you should take it. I am.

"Anybody that exhibits the anger issues you do (real or not) really doesn't need anyone's real name."

Someone who calls herself "meanoldconservatives" blogs about anger issues of a past self-named blogger who was anonymously attacked at work by a coward. How rich!!

You got me, though. My handles are mizzponder, gitreal, mainstream, diva, and bonkers. You're some detective.

You would never be compared to Git Real. He is funny, nice, and doesn't have a huge chip on his shoulder.

Someone who calls herself "meanoldconservatives" blogs about anger issues of a past self-named blogger who was anonymously attacked at work by a coward. How rich!!

What does any of that mean??? Your weekend pass must be about to expire wannabe diva.

good evening meanoc... I was out and about today and captured a pic of yer yard art... were y'all up on the porch eatin' tonight?

Mean's neighborhood

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"You can lead a Republican to the truth, but you can't make him think."

Now you know that isn't my house. I have already told you I have a huge estate with liberals like you working it for me.

By the way, you left the fries out of my order again today. If I complain to your manager one more time, he said he would fire you. I don't want you back on welfare again.....

"...you left the fries out of my order again today."

You'd better be nice to those working for minimum wage at your favorite fast food joint, or you could get a surprise in your next double cheeeeez burger.

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"You can lead a Republican to the truth, but you can't make him think."

You live on a huge estate and eat those poisonous french fries? Take better care of yourself and you will live longer to enjoy your estate. Healthy eating isn't just for liberal craftspeople who enjoy the fruits of their labor more than their customers do.

"I can't wait until tomorrow, because I get more lovable every day."

That's some political landscaping wouldn't you say? Where's the pink flamingos?
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as one anonymous blogger to another, welcome to the fray. By the way, my picture is a self portrait.

"I can't wait until tomorrow, because I get more lovable every day."

Where have you been?

Writing styles never change, no matter how hard some of these people try.

I'm still wondering if you will EVER offer a reason for referring to Middle Eastern and Indian people as "rag heads" on these boards. You've been an artful dodger on this subject.

Obama wants the rich to share with the less fortunate. Oprah supports Obama and is rich. I'm less fortunate than Oprah so if she gives me halh of her money, I'll vote for Obama. Everyone wins.

Are to avoid American taxes, that's all!
You don't qualify!