All you guys are making realtors sound like out and out crooks!
They wouldn't be doing that if the banks didn't promote it though. Why do you think there is a new bank on every corner around here?
Credit cards and housing, that's why. They are con artists!

Our relator told us the same thing. We didn't buy it. We live in Fayette County just not PTC. I didn't believe them when they told me that there would not be anymore houses in 2 years. It's sad that relators said that, they knew it was not true.

If you hired a Realtor to work for you (regardless of who paid their commission) then you have a strong case against them for lying - if in fact they did.

If you think the Realtor you met at an open house and then showed you property was working for you - then you are a fool. And have no right to complain. Those leeches work for the builders and developers,

The first 1 was working for me, until I caught onto the PTC scam. Then I found one that was semi-honest. It isn't just the realtors here who were singing the "We are at build out song". People I work with, city hall, and people walking on the paths. Everyone was singing the same song.

It's ok nobody could have predicted the kind of people that would be elected and allowed to run wild here. Anytime you buy property it's a toss, unless you can pay someone off.

Everybody I talked to who already lived here said the same thing. Then I went to city hall to look at the map and determine where the flood planes were and I got the same story. Oh well.

You were much smarter than I was. Live and learn. Now I know if "their lips are moving, they are lying".

I am sorry for what happened to you. We also talked to lots of people went to city hall etc. It was the place to be. It was to remain a small private place to live, houses would stop being built etc. We did have quiet a bit of time to make up our mind where to move, that helped. If you had to move quickly then you don't have as much time to check the place out.

Live and learn. There are always going to be the "new best place to live" communities out there.

It's a big bad world. Remember if it doesn't kill us it makes us stronger.

It is beautiful outside right now, the moon is small but pretty, let's all get out of here.

If you believed that line from your agent. I thought you were smarter than that. The original plan called for double our current population.

If you can show me where PTC touches Fulton County, I'll buy you a beverage of your choice.

You comment about people wanting the "Riverdale look" is out and out rubbish. I guess I shouldn't expect much more from you. Frankly, I'm surprised you still even live here. You do come across as being quiet miserable.

Many citizens here were under the same impression. You like development so much, I can't understand why you left henry county. They have everything the way you like it there, and the added bonus is no citizens protest or ask questions.

Actually you seem to be one of the people who like the riverdale look. You cheer for it all of the time, and argue with anyone who says they don't like it.

No we aren't up to fulton county yet, unless we keep harold for another term. Then all bets are off.

As hack would say "cheers"

So the Fulton County line was just that, a line.

IF you could show me where I've been in favor of any of the proposed "Riverdale Look", I'll kindly hold my head down in shame. Frankly, we are from looking like Riverdale.

I too don't like some of the changes, but I also realize some of them are inevitable. You can't tell people not to build on property that is already zoned, you can make them build to our standards though. It seems to me we are slipping in this area.

This thread was started by someone who didn't like the way PTC was changing, but then went on to say he would only move to Senoia when they built more housing etc. That comment baffled me.

According to the original plan, PTC should have reached build-out by 2001, and then there would have been nothing on the market except resales.

There is always the next "best" place to live. When I retire, I'm looking for one that understands the value of being unique, and they are taking steps to protect it.

It's not confusing at all, PTC let go of its standards, they're letting in tract homes, big box stores, and anything a developer wants to propose. Senoia has made its standards law, they hired Historical Concepts to create a book of new ordinances, and they've adopted that book of ordinances to ensure anything that IS built conforms to the highest standards, and blends seamlessly with the historic architecture of the town.

Just look at the office building that movie studio is constructing downtown Senoia... it's beautiful. And their architectural renderings for their brownstones and factory lofts are just as beautiful. That type of construction isn't cheap, but the developer isn't selling out like PTC developers have. Look at the website... www.historicsenoia.com

To be sure, all this could change again over the next 20 years, but for now, Senoia seems to me to at least be heading in the right direction, while PTC is NOT.

I've been here since 1993... you can't say that in the last 5 years PTC hasn't changed for the worse, and for that matter, Senoia for the better.

My wife and I put our house up for sale this weekend.

I've seen a giant butler building in Downtown Senoia. Is that what you are talking about? Oh yeah, good luck with the traffic from that new McIntosh Village, Coweta is gung ho on that.

PTC isn't perfect, but I've yet to find anything like it. I wish you luck in your move.

Just last night, our Council squashed another big box.

That butler building is Hollberg's new furniture warehouse, and the people at the coffee shop said that it was passed before all the new changes went into effect. The front isn't bad, but someone said he was supposed to brick/stucco it all the way around... but didn't.

Anyway, I'm not talking about the butler building, I'm talking about the 3 story building going up at the corner of Seavy and Main. It's going to have a Redneck Gourmet, Maguire's Irish Pub, and a radio station, plus some office/professional.

Apparently, they're going to be building more of these great looking buildings, the old hardware store is getting restored, and there's a big residential development that's going to be built... check the website at www.historicsenoia.com

As for traffic, no worries, I run my own company, so I'm going to move my offices there... my commute will be measured in paces, not miles. Can't wait. I commute to Atlanta now, and it is a killer

You need to git on your bike & peddle down there. Frank has done what he said he would do.
Those of you who talk about the original "Master Plan"... is that the one that called for a pop. of 80,000? Or the one that changed to less than 40,000? OR the one that is going to change to somehere between the 2? What is the Master Plan? Must be livin' & changin'.
AND if there were going to be 80,000 people here, what did the road system look like in the plans?
I know one of them was a GT (aka: North Ave. Technical School) grad and it may have been flawed. Just kiddin'

You were a little heavy with the ‘spin’ in that last sentence.

The council did nothing. By law they couldn't.

I'm just as pleased with the outcome as the rest of PTC but don't go giving the credit for this to anyone. It was the developer that withdrew his request so maybe he should get a little credit.

Don't forget, this can come back anytime. Think of it like TDK.

It wouldn't surprise me if we saw it again just after the election, say Dec. 27th when everyone is gone from here. Remember, specially called meetings are not uncommon when controversial issues are to be voted on.

As far as Mr. Harman 'telling' the Citizen he was going to vote no; well all I can say to that is "he dodged that bullet". It's sure is convenient to say "I was going to vote no", rather than have a no vote on the record. Makes for a good sound byte too doesn't it?

But last night, squashed was probably a good term. I've had enough emails etc from Harman to believe what he said. I don't think they have the votes, and they know it. Otherwise, it would have gone to vote. But you are right, we can't let up now.

All that said, I've always been a "glass half full" kinda guy. It bothers some, but it's just my nature.