False Appreciation

There were 61 million total casualties during WWII. The USA had 295,000 casualties of soldiers, no civilians listed.
I would be willing to bet that the only ones remembered by the average citizen, currently, except for some families, might be the Sullivan brothers, Ira Hayes, and Ernie Pyle, a civilian.
Most won't even remember those three.
It won't be any different about Iraq and Afghanistan, yet we take every opportunity now to speak about them at public gatherings, as a whole. We talk about how they fight for us and that we should "back them."
We currently have a rash of Iraq veterans with mental problems and "brain rattling" problems, many have committed suicide, problems with which the Veterans Administration is utterly overwhelmed!
Has there ever been such horrible planning for such atrocities as this before we decide to invade?
I don't know how many of the seriously wounded (30,000 of ours, maybe) have lost limbs due to not avoiding IEDs on the roads over there. More terrible planning. Went in too quickly before we were ready, for sure.
Can we not spend what we must to insure that these fellows are taken care of now?

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Common Practice!
Submitted by Nitpickers on Wed, 10/10/2007 - 7:37am.

Those who MUST defend this horribly unplanned war have to say how much they appreciate the soldiers who get blown up and killed, and otherwise messed up for life.
If they really were sincere about the justification of the war, they would be serving in it in some capacity other than with their mouth!
These are mostly people who never served, like Limbaugh, Cheney, Bush II, (protected Texas part-time), Rice, Gingrich, Delay, Hannity, Coulter, Oreilly, and on and on. Those who did put on a uniform for awhile were lawyers and such.
This is why we need Universal service--with NO EXCEPTIONS.
We can't continue to fight forever with a Hispanic, black, Filipino military, primarily.

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Nitpickers
Submitted by d.smith700 on Thu, 10/11/2007 - 6:45am.

This hutch person has a mindset like a psycho! "Names" are out to get him!
I'm not sure that you or skyspy are absolutely correct, but I did read today that Army officers are being offered up to $25,000 bonus to re-up three years, and that criminals were now being taken to meet goals for enlisted, not sure about officers!
I suppose the "few good men" don't need to pay their recruits very well?
They called them "criminals" in the article. A definition needs to be made here as to whether a misdemeanor makes a criminal. Speeding, disturbing then peace, scaring someone, having a beer, no insurance, etc., is one thing. Knives, guns, gangs, is another.

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Submitted by hutch866 on Thu, 10/11/2007 - 12:15pm.

I might be a psycho, but at least when I talk to myself, I do it alone and not on a public forum. The young person you defended on here that time that was so misunderstood by the police, enough so that they gave him a ticket for speeding and arrested him for discharging firearms in a neighborhood, is he a criminal, there was a gun involved, talk to me zitpicker.

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Submitted by Cyclist on Thu, 10/11/2007 - 1:55pm.

This is classic $ at work here!!!! We don't have to answer his blogs, he'll do that on his own.
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$25,000 Sounds Like A Bargain
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Submitted by Git Real on Thu, 10/11/2007 - 7:37am.

but I did read today that Army officers are being offered up to $25,000 bonus to re-up three years

Hey Dollar! A $25,000 dollar enlistment bonus is a bargain to retain qualified and effective leadership. Do you know how much time and money it takes to train-up a qualified officer?

Dude, You,ve gotta stop talking to yourself. People are starting to talk. And if I'm going to be one of your converts, I'd prefer standing to to a sane looking Liberal rather than an old man with a Sybil complex.

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Submitted by hutch866 on Thu, 10/11/2007 - 12:19pm.

Enlisted people were getting that much back in the 70's to reenlist so it's surely a bargin now. zitpicker had to get a third personality because the first two weren't talking to each other.

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Submitted by hutch866 on Wed, 10/10/2007 - 9:58am.

Here you go, He's answered himself, no wonder he needs two ID's

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Submitted by Cyclist on Wed, 10/10/2007 - 11:30am.

Yep, it only took ten days for it to happen. I think the blog count is now 12 for 10 days. $ hasn't missed a beat.

BTW - Many thanks for working on the trailer!!!!!
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What are you talking about?
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Submitted by bad_ptc on Wed, 10/10/2007 - 8:11am.

I would direct you to GAO Report, "MILITARY
PERSONNEL" dated Sept. 2005.

Go to page thirty, 30, and read the numbers.


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bad: statistics?
Submitted by Nitpickers on Wed, 10/10/2007 - 10:38am.

Lets talk boots on the ground.
If read carefully the statistics will indicate that about 53% of the military are minorities and women (non-combatants).
They are also much younger than the 17-35 population hers is. Much!

Now consider desk jockeys, senior officers, etc., and you come up with what I said!

We also have about 200,000 mercenaries, and hired hands to cut hair, cook, etc.

It is a mess!!!!

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"If read carefully"
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Submitted by bad_ptc on Wed, 10/10/2007 - 1:02pm.

You mean if I stood on my head, leaned to the left, squinted with just one eye, on a Tuesday with a full moon I could somehow twist the simple numbers presented to come close to your made up, undocumented wishful babbling.

Try this simple table of data.

Maybe even you will be able to grasp its meaning.

As of July 2007 as per the DoD

Casualties by Race, ground pounders & desk jockeys

White 2,593
Hispanic 376
Black 330
Asian 65
Other 73
Unknown 43

Apparently it’s a lot more ‘unhealthy’ to be a desk jockey!


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