PTC to lose 1 Kroger?

Thu, 09/06/2007 - 3:45pm
By: John Munford

Peachtree City may be losing one of its Kroger grocery stores.

City officials confirmed this week that the building department has received plans to renovate the Kroger at the Peachtree Crossings East shopping center.

The new tenant is reportedly Goodwill.

A Kroger spokesperson would not confirm Thursday whether the store is closing, but it is the smallest Kroger in the area. It was previously a Big Star grocery store and later became a Harris Teeter before that company was purchased by Kroger.

The two other Krogers are located at the Kedron Village and Braelinn Village shopping centers.

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Submitted by winer on Fri, 09/14/2007 - 7:26am.

Kroger's lease doesn't expire until 2030? That was the mayor's recollection at last night's meeting. Anchor stores pull a lot of weight and their leases contain clauses that the average person can't even begin to fathom. Residents need to keep this in mind as the subject of additional Big Box variances come up. We will have to live with these decisions for a very, very long time. Often long after the original store is gone. Kroger had the power to veto any other business locating in Peachtree Crossings. They wouldn't approve a bakery because it would compete with the Little Kroger bakery (???). They will still have the lease, it is just sub-let to Goodwill. Kroger can still throw it's weight around when they are no longer located there.

As attractive as the carrot or bauble may be as it dangles in front of your nose, it can be swapped out in a flash. And you are left with very unattractive results for a long time. Please keep the Kroger lesson in mind when the Kohls subject comes up.

Submitted by Ant on Tue, 09/11/2007 - 1:39pm.

Someone has lost their marbles. This has to be a ploy on the part of Kroger to put pressure on the landlord to release them from their lease or to sub-let the space to a tenant who will not threaten their other stores.
What PTC needs is not a store like goodwill which is fantastic in it's place. It's place is simply not PTC! We need a tenant like 'Whole Foods'!

Too many people have invested too much into the "exclusive community", to let a poor decision such as this undo all the hard work of the past thirty years in creating the special place that is Peachtree City.

disallusioned Ant

Submitted by Uphill racer on Mon, 09/10/2007 - 12:03pm.

Moved to Peachtree City in 1987 - a "planned" community. Expected change, but positive change. What happened to the ordinances citizens were willing to accept? There are citizens who choose to live in Peachtree City and work hard to maintain their property with a limited income. Business and government seem to be making their own rules. There is always the other supermarket in town, and it's not the other Kroger. Are we building up or building down?

Submitted by skyspy on Mon, 09/10/2007 - 4:00pm.

I called Kroger today to get the corporate address. I want to cut up my kroger-no-customer-service-card and send it to them.

You know what their customer-no-service-person said???

They are happy for every resident in PTC to send back their cards. They don't need us, and this little lady informed me that they would be better off with no store at all in PTC.

They don't want our buisness, as this little lady made very clear to me today. She said they make tons of money in other cities they don't need PTC.

Publix has great customer service. So does Trader Joes, and Whole Foods Market. It is time for a change.

Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Mon, 09/10/2007 - 4:45pm.

I haven't had a chance to talk to the manager of the Braelin Kroger, he seems like a nice guy, but this whole story is disturbing.

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Submitted by bad_ptc on Sun, 09/09/2007 - 2:31pm.

Do any of you whiners have any idea what Goodwill Industries is all about?

“Goodwill places someone in a good job every 56 seconds of every business day.” Can Home Depot, Sears, Dillard’s, Delta, Target, Kroger and IBM combined, make that claim?

“Goodwill Industries Recognized with First Government Award for Outstanding Veterans' Employment Resources.” Name me three other companies that do that.

Yes you can go fight a war and get maimed for me, just don’t live near me or apply for a job here in “MY” community. Please.

Goodwill Ranks Highest Among Community Service Organizations Providing Employment to U.S. Veterans

For all the church going, 10% tithing, its okay as long as it’s not in my community, I gave at the office HIPPOCRITS, get over it.

I was raised that when you no longer needed something you donated it to someone who might. Why is it that in PTC we have people in $500,000+ homes that feel the need to have a garage sale so they can bring in an extra $200 for tennis lessons?

Goodwill Industries is all about helping others.

It seems the best reason you have for not wanting a Goodwill store in the area is that you will no longer be able ride your golfcart to the grocery store.

”I have no issue with Goodwill, but it does not belong in Peachtree City.” Why not?

”…choosing an operation that is NOT appropriate to the character of this city.” Just who anointed you God? I don’t remember hearing from you about how many Nail places there are here. I suppose you should fire you landscape company because they employ illegal’s.

” Goodwill, by its very nature, will attract low income customers, who inevitably bring crime, and eventually, lower property values.” No doubt that’s exactly what happened in the north Hollywood area with some 66 Goodwill stores in their area. Just how much crime has the Fayette Pavilion generated in the last few years?

Wal Mart and K-Mart attract low income customers, who inevitably bring crime, and eventually, lower property values and you shop there.

Perhaps if you God fearing HIPPOCRITS were a little more involved in community service and helping people so they could help themselves, you wouldn’t be so narrow minded.

It’s alright to donate money to your church so they can send volunteers to some desolate South African country to help distribute medicine but DON’T TRY AND HELP ANYONE WHO LIVES HERE.

I see a long line at the confessional in your churches future.


Submitted by winer on Sun, 09/09/2007 - 3:13pm.

If Goodwill Headquarters wants to relocate their offices in that space, that would sure be better than their store location. They could set up an job placement office down there. They do a great job of hiring special needs employees. This is not about what Goodwill does. It is about what Goodwill stores attract.

Ask any shop owner near a Goodwill store how it has worked out for their business. Over in Stockbridge I used to use a Vac repair shop located in the shopping center with Goodwill. He would find the back of his store littered with trash on Monday morning. It wasn't about helping poor people, it could even be people from McMansions who emptied their storage unit or garage in the middle of the night when Goodwill wasn't accepting donations. So they dump it behind the stores. And it gets rained on and makes a mess. Who do you think cleans that up?

Tattoo Parlors, Pawn Shops, Adult "book" stores and strip joints all have a place in our society but not in Peachtree Crossings East.

And you don't know me but I don't shop in Wal-mart. And when I found out that K-mart would not prosecute shoplifters and how that attacts the criminal element to their proximity I quit shopping there too. Ask the former shopowners from down by PTC's K-mart what it is like to be a K-mart neighbor.

I don't agree with church groups sending volunteers out of our county (some of them don't make it back), when there is so much that needs to be done around here. You can't begin to fathom the amount of hours I have put in locally and within the state as a volunteer for multiple non-profits- hundreds, thousands of documentable hours plus gas and many other expenses from my own pocket. Again you don't know me.

This is about Kroger trying to keep out the competition due to their corporate greed.

Submitted by ATLtoPTC on Sun, 09/09/2007 - 3:02pm.

I donate to Goodwill regularly AND I have shopped there. Goodwill is a fantastic organization. However, I don't believe it should be an "anchor" to the Peachtree Crossing shopping center. I have no problem with Goodwill finding another location in PTC, preferably a freestanding location. Having Goodwill as the anchor for Peachtree Crossing sets a completely different tone for that shopping center than something like a Trader Joe's would do. Like I stated in my first post on this topic - the midtown Trader Joe's revitalized the shopping center on Monroe. That center went from being run down and a little scary to vibrant and family friendly (p.s. for those of you who shop at that Trader Joe's, you MUST make time to eat lunch at MetroFresh, and you MUST have a cupcake for dessert! Trust me!!!).

Have you ever seen a Goodwill store in a shopping center that looked vibrant & family friendly? The nicest Goodwill store I have ever seen is the little one on the way to Newnan on 54/34, but that one is *new*. I wonder what it will look like in 3-4 years? And what kind of stores will be in that little strip mall where it is located in 3-4 years? Do you think those stores will be upscale, boutique, and/or family run businesses? Does a Goodwill store make you think you're going to encounter "boutique shopping" nearby?

Honestly, I don't think the K-Mart store has done any favors for the Braelinn shopping center either. Seems like a lot of stores have left there, and it doesn't exactly scream "upscale" to me. Without a revitalization plan, that shopping center may continue to go downhill.

Peachtree Crossing is such a fantastic central location to our community. With the right anchor, it could really shine. There are some great stores in there that I would like to see continue to succeed (I was so sad to see the Elephant's Tale close!). An upscale anchor that would support more quality stores would bring valuable shopping dollars into our community!

By contrast, I spent my shopping dollars at Whole Foods on Paces Ferry this morning. I would much prefer to drive my golf cart to a local store and keep my shopping dollars in my community (not to mention reduce my contribution to global warming!). A Goodwill store at Peachtree Crossing won't help me do that, and I honestly don't think it will help the current stores in that center to prosper.

If what is being reported here is true (Kroger is subletting the space), I am very disappointed in Kroger. Kroger used to be much more about helping its community, but more and more it is all about the almighty dollar. Their donations to the community (e.g. school donations) have reduced significantly, and now this..... I am no longer a happy Kroger customer!

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Submitted by Robert W. Morgan on Sun, 09/09/2007 - 6:54pm.

The deal to buy Harris Teeter was done by some execs who don't even know where PTC is. That deal going bad is the real cause of the problem. They tried to use the space and despite the friendly, community-oriented staff and store, it loses money. Kroger's corporate knee-jerk reaction to limit competition for their other Kroger stores in PTC is simplistic, but predictable. I doubt very much if anything can be done - except the developer of the shopping center not approving the tenant Kroger was to sublet to - Goodwill.

That is possible, but even that - keeping the space empty - will hurt the center. Of course, having Goodwill there will kill the center slowly. It is a no-win situation for everyone.

Only real solution is for the city to relocate the Gathering Place there.


Submitted by winer on Sun, 09/09/2007 - 8:10pm.

Kroger knew that spot would be a money loser for them when they bought it and when they decided to keep it open. When Kroger bought out Harris Teeter they did not keep all of the Harris Teeter stores open as Krogers. They sold, sub-let and just closed some locations. Corporate Kroger knew what they were getting and made the decision to keep Little Kroger open at a loss to keep out the competition. They did it then, they are doing it now. The current manager was brought in to a dead end job. It was not a promotion in reality, kind of store manager purgatory/ Mommy Track position. Corporate would not approve any improvements or changes. It was to be kept status quo.

The owner of the shopping center would like to have some control over the sublet but does not in that lease. He found out about the Goodwill deal last Thursday just like everybody else. He doesn’t want Goodwill either, who will sign leases there now? It will be the ruination of that entire center. It may happen quickly or die a slow death but Goodwill in that location will bring it’s demise.

Submitted by Yo on Sat, 09/08/2007 - 8:55pm.

The best we can do is be positive and contact Krogers grassroots. Cincinnati based Krogers is the worlds largest grocery chain. They have a whole foods division calles FRESH FARE... this is what we need.

Submitted by lovediscounts on Sat, 09/08/2007 - 10:42am.

If it is true that Kroger will sublet, I don't think they will court Trader Joe's or Whole Foods. We could express our disappointment the American way...boycott. Perhaps Kroger could start an organic store or seafood specialty with shorter hours but more niche market - come on Kroger, work with us here!

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Submitted by puppycat on Fri, 09/07/2007 - 8:00pm.

I have no issue with Goodwill, but it does not belong in Peachtree City. It's Kroger Corporate that is the bad guy - not the City! Corporations talk about how they are caring, compassionate and committed to their communities. This is a fine example of the real heart of the Kroger Corporation. The mannor in which they approached this, in secret and intentionally choosing an operation that is NOT appropriate to the character of this city, would strongly suggest that Kroger knew what the reaction would be from the residents. It is definately time to send Kroger Corporate a message! I like the shopping cart idea and remember.....We do have a choice and Publix is just up the road! If we all drive that extra mile, Kroger may get the hint! NO MORE KROGER....NO MORE KROGER....


Submitted by winer on Fri, 09/07/2007 - 6:42pm.

Kroger is sub-letting their space to Goodwill to keep competition out of that storefront. City didn't do it. Property owner didn't do it. Kroger did this to PTC.
Contacting competition like Trader Joes won't do any good. Kroger has a lease and they would never sub-lease to any competition for their other stores.
You can contact Kroger's Atlanta Area Real Estate Division 770-496-7400. It won't do any good, this is a done deal.
Maybe if we left a cart full of the groceries we would normally get at area Krogers- sitting in the aisle with a note to thank Kroger for their "Goodwill". Mention you just remembered you are now shopping elsewhere!!! That might send corporate Kroger a meaningful message (

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Submitted by nuk on Sat, 09/08/2007 - 9:33am.

Hey, reality is that people are still going to blame the City Council. You know, they should have been "pro-active" and an "advocate" or something to control every business activity in the city.

NUK


Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Sat, 09/08/2007 - 9:43am.

Ignorant people will blame the City Council.

Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Sat, 09/08/2007 - 7:25am.

http://www.kroger.com/customercomments.htm

Let them know how you feel, I know I did.

Submitted by skyspy on Fri, 09/07/2007 - 10:33pm.

The produce is better there anyway. They will order any specialty item that you request.

Shop at Publix they are not purposely trying to ruin our city.

I like the shopping cart idea. Although from past experience at kroger they don't care about the customer anyway, so I doubt they will get the message.

Submitted by welcometooz on Fri, 09/07/2007 - 6:09pm.

If there was any doubt, there is no more. Our city leaders are taking us down the road to ruin. Goodwill is a fine operation. But is there a need or desire for a charity operation in an upscale community such as Peachtree City? I'd venture to say 97% of PTC residents would say no.
It's the most nonsensical business plan I've ever come across.

Goodwill, by its very nature, will attract low income customers, who inevitably bring crime, and eventually, lower property values. Nothing racist, sexist, or snobbish intended. It's a fact repeatedly borne out by reputable statistics over the decades.

A small grocery market in the dead center of town is a nice convenience.Too bad a grocery company can't make it work financially. By the way, if we can't fill our present shopping centers with desirable tenants, why are they chopping all the trees down around the Braelinn? This city's leadership will not be happy until every single square inch of Peachtree City is developed.

Time to relocate to a community where longterm property values will rise, not fall into the toilet.

Submitted by ptc_vision on Sun, 09/21/2008 - 1:44pm.

With the economy being as poor as it is, people across the United States are having trouble financially including people in Peachtree City. There are many Peachtree City residents that have to be careful with their money. We have subsidized housing here in Peachtree City, that already brings in people who have very little income. Scaring companies to come into our city is not the future.

I'm sure that many of you think that Goodwill is just a retail store; however, Goodwill Industries has training programs, computer classes, and so much more. This company is a beacon of hope for many individuals that are not able to find a job. Goodwill gives these people a chance, a chance to work and further more gives them an income that gets put back into our city, that will make our city flourish even more. Peachtree City is not what it was 10 years ago; many of the stores close and there are empty store fronts in almost every strip mall. Why is this? Maybe the majority of people in Peachtree City do not want to shop at expensive stores because they can not afford them, causing these stores to close down. If we continue to think of the Peachtree economy, we will soon be a ghost town.

Furthermore, there are wonderful things that Goodwill can offer. For example, many of you may not know that the Goodwill in Macon, GA has a culinary institute and a fine dining bistro. That's right the same Goodwill Industries that Peachtree City deems unacceptable has a fine dining bistro, where some of the most prestigious people in the area eat, and I can attest the food is absolutely amazing. As to Goodwill not being the type of establishment that would deserve this area of Peachtree City; I would argue against that. There are many Goodwills throughout the country that are fine establishments and could even be looked at as high-end.

Lastly, I would like to know what the problem is with having Goodwill when there are already TWO thrift stores in Peachtree City, that do not offer the same benefits that Goodwill can. Those thrift stores, still very good and still for a good cause do not give as much back to the community. 96 cents of every dollar spent in a Goodwill Retail store gets put back into the mission. At many of these other thrift stores, the money that is put back into the mission is minimal. So what is wrong with Goodwill and not these other Thrift Stores? Why can we allow these thrift stores to come in, but not allow a Goodwill that will not only help the residents of Peachtree City but also the community as a whole.

Submitted by loveptc on Fri, 09/07/2007 - 9:59pm.

I don't know how of you many stop to shop at this Kroger during any day, but they have a WONDERFUL cashier named Janet, and a older baggers name that I do not know, (Sorry, he is so sweet}
I just wish them well, and I hope Kroger provides them jobs onther local Kroger.
To Kroger: What are you doing "sublenting" to Goodwill? I will do every thing to block it!

Submitted by tanglefoot on Fri, 09/07/2007 - 10:25pm.

Yes, Janet is fantastic...a real dynamo/great service/consistent friendly smile/efficient/gosh...some business will be fortunate to employ her!!!!!

As long as Kroger is going...well...I am a fan of Goodwill...have found great bargains there and will enjoy it's presence here in PTC...I know PTC is supposed to be "The Land of Milk and Honey" however, I think we can still accommodate Goodwill...

Just my opinion...don't shoot me!

Tanglefoot

Submitted by winer on Sat, 09/08/2007 - 6:59am.

Don't tempt fate by mentioning shootings in the same post where you welcome Goodwill to PTC!!! It happens all the time in their parking lots.

Have you ever seen a Goodwill location without a pawn shop or a tattoo parlor near-by? Shoplifting will be a common occurrence, I don't want to even think about gunshots. Peachtree City will become Riverdale shortly after Kroger turns the space over to Goodwill. Kroger will be gone by Oct. 1st. It is only a matter of months now!

And we’ll have very few stores left in town that are owned and operated by our own citizens – just large corporations. We now see how the Kroger Corporation is taking care of our community. Every store in Peachtree Crossings East is independently owned. They won’t last long with Goodwill in there. Those store owners will lose their life savings and their livelihoods. Collectively I'll bet they employ more locals than Little Kroger.

Submitted by Concerned Citizen on Fri, 09/07/2007 - 11:44am.

Who can we contact to stop this? This is terrible. We do not need this type of store in PTC. Nobody wants to come out and say it but there is quite a correlation between socioeconomic status and crime. Lower the status higher the crime, don't believe it, check out Reeferdale and southwest Atlanta!

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Submitted by mudcat on Fri, 09/07/2007 - 3:25pm.

At least now we are. When all those fancy restaurants came here we were viewed as an upscale community because of the house prices and household income. Sadly no one went out to eat and the restaurants went out of business. Now we are a bunch of middle-class, house-poor non-spenders in the eyes of the retailers. Sad, but true. Can't figure out how to blame all that on Logsdon, but maybe someone can help.

Back to my old picture, so I can say "I don't have a dog in this fight" with real feelings.


Submitted by skyspy on Fri, 09/07/2007 - 3:33pm.

When has PTC ever in it's history had a "fancy restaurant"??

I can't think of one.

They all have been frumpy dumpy family restaurnts with the same tired freeze dried food. Which is why they went out of buisness, they were all the same.

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Submitted by nightsunstar on Sat, 09/08/2007 - 8:54am.

had a great atmosphere, great food, great owners, and they were chased all the way to Newnan. not necessarily upscale, but not junk, either. they had planned to open up a larger restaurant off of 74/crosstown but that fell through - not quite sure why - but alas, they are now pegleg pauly's in the old johnny carino's...


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Submitted by nuk on Sat, 09/08/2007 - 9:28am.

How were they "chased all the way to Newnan?" I think they made a business decision that having a free-standing building would be a better situation than the Braelinn shopping center. I'm sure since Carino's was vacant there that Valentino's got a decent deal to move there.

Until the management of Braelinn adjusts their expectations for rent in that shopping center, there are going to be a LOT of vacancies. When it's more economically viable for the liquor store(Arnie's) to pay for a free-standing building across the street, Haynes to move up the road, Valentino's to Newnan, etc. the tenants WILL keep leaving and new ones will not come.

You show me a shopping center that is close to 50% vacant and I'll show you an example where the shopping center mgt is very out of touch about how much the market will bear for rent. This has been going on for several years there.

NUK


Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Sat, 09/08/2007 - 11:01am.

Vacancy there is not near 50%. I agree, it needs some improvements, but I think Valentinos left for many reasons. Obviously the name change was for some reason? Probably to get out of/away from debt. I personally thought the food had gone downhill myself.

Now if K-Mart leaves, then the vacancy may be near 50%. I've always thought that would be a good spot for a Lowes myself.

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Submitted by nightsunstar on Sat, 09/08/2007 - 9:53am.

well, that's how they were chased all the way to Newnan! they need to change the color of the roofs at the Kmart shopping center! some renovation! BLUE is more inviting than that nasty shade of green! *giggle*


Submitted by nusport on Fri, 09/07/2007 - 1:02pm.

Email Goodwill at: contactus@goodwill.org
Tell them that they are not welcome in Peachtree City.

Submitted by PTC50 on Fri, 09/07/2007 - 10:38am.

Can't hardly wait for Goodwill to move in. That mean's the next store will be a BIG LOT'S. They are usually in the same shopping center.Are we getting classy or what.

Submitted by ATLtoPTC on Fri, 09/07/2007 - 9:29am.

The Trader Joes in midtown off Monroe Dr. replaced a small run-down Winn Dixie. For a while, that shopping center was run-down and not a big draw to locals except for a few. Now that Trader Joes has moved in, it's a much nicer, bustling shopping center, and I'm sure the other businesses in the shopping center are enjoying the boost in sales! Peachtree Crossing would be wise to take note..... I fully support Goodwill and the good works they do, but I don't think Peachtree Crossing is the appropriate spot for a Goodwill store. A great store like Trader Joes or Whole Foods would be a real boost to the shopping center; it's a great central location! Why is there such a push to bring more "discount" stuff to PTC and not more upscale shopping??

I think that bringing in Goodwill would be a stupid business decision for the owners of Peachtree Crossing! Seize the opportunity to go upscale/quality - not cheap!!!

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Submitted by poipendicular on Sun, 09/09/2007 - 10:16am.

I miss TJs. When we lived in CA, I enjoyed going to their stores. Not to big, but with plenty of items to round out an open mind to dinner. I did send an email to TJ's asking them to look into our fair town. I don't like the drive up to midtown to shop there. It just doesn't have the same feel driving 45 min to shop. You feel like it should be a Costco trip, and stock up on non perishable items, instead of a bag or two of items to last a few days, then head back later in the week for more fresh produce.

A Goodwill is a lovely store, but it does add a new flavor to our town. A flavor I don't want. My view is tainted. I see most of the shoppers as illegals with large broods, non English speakers with ill behaved children. Gee, I see that at Walmart on the late weekend trips I make because my kid needs a folder for school.

I have also sent an email to Kroger's voicing my displeasure at their plan to allow Goodwill to take over. I will not be shopping there, until they either leave the little Kroger in place,or abandon the plan of allowing a less than desirable business to sublease the space. We all need to let them know how we feel. I'd rather see an empty store than a Big Lots or Goodwill there while, I shop at Omega.


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Submitted by fancypants on Fri, 09/07/2007 - 3:58pm.

Or any other heatlh food oriented grocery store would be a great addition to PTC!

How are we going to go about getting them to evaluate moving here? Anybody have any contact information for these companies and who should they contact here in PTC?


Submitted by ATLtoPTC on Fri, 09/07/2007 - 5:01pm.

Write them; I did! At one time I heard Trader Joe's was considering an expansion into the southern suburbs of Atlanta, so why not now? Whole Foods was also looking at opening a store south of Atlanta before Delta's bankruptcy woes (told to me directly from a Whole Foods employee), so maybe now they are ready to reconsider that plan?

Here's a link to contact Trader Joe's:
Trader Joe's

And if you want to contact Whole Foods, here's a place to start:
Whole Foods
I doubt if the Peachtree Crossing location fits their requirements, but surely there is a location somewhere south of Atlanta that DOES fit their requirements!

The more they hear from willing customers, the greater the likelihood we'll get one of their stores here!

Submitted by FDH500 on Sat, 09/08/2007 - 1:55pm.

Thank you for a way to contact Trader Joe's and Whole Foods. I just contacted them myself. I couldn't believe the news that Kroger could even sublet to another business without the landlord's approval. Apparently, if the article that appeared in the Citizen is true, then the new tenant to take the Kroger space would be a GOODWILL store. Where is the sense in this? Why does PTC need a GOODWILL store? There already is a second hand store on Hwy 74 on the South end of PTC. It is absurd to locate a GOODWILL store in this location. Kroger should be boycotted at all locations if this is in fact a done deal.

The Peachtree Crossings Shopping Center has begun to attract stable, upscale businesses. The East end of the shopping center is highly desireable and starting to reach the upscale level. During the next few months more tenants were planning to acquire space in this convenient mid-town location and current ones have made moves to expand. This will probably not happen now because of KROGER's agreement with GOODWILL stores. Who would want to put their investment in a location that was destined to go down to Riverdale's level because of a tenant like GOODWILL and the clientele it would attract?

The Landlord and Kroger need to work out a better agreement. Even though WHOLE FOODS or TRADER JOE'S would be considered competition to Kroger, they would be a welcomed addition to PTC. PTC is ready for either business to come to town and the Peachtree Crossing Shopping Center is an ideal location for either. NOT GOODWILL!

BOYCOTT KROGER NOW! Shop anywhere else for your groceries. Try Publix or Ingles. BOYCOTT KROGER NOW! STOP GOODWILL from coming to PTC!

Submitted by ptc_vision on Sun, 09/21/2008 - 1:55pm.

I hate to tell you, but a boycott will not work. Only the people like yourself will have to go to a different Kroger (owned by the same people) and the majority of the that Kroger's shoppers will still go there. Around that Kroger there are the older houses of Peachtree City, where many of the lower income families live. There are also apartments all around there that are subsidized, and they will probably continue to go there as well. I believe we are all forgetting how busy everyone in Peachtree City is. We have the soccer moms who have to pick up their kids from every sport this city offers, and if that Kroger is on their way home, that's where they will get their groceries from. A boycott won't work.

I don't know why everyone is fighting this. a Goodwill is great. Plus you are trying to relate the Goodwill's in Riverdale to a Goodwill in Peachtree City. Everything in Riverdale is rundown, and has been even before Goodwill was there. Would you go shopping at a Trader Joes in Riverdale, probably not. It is not the stores that are located in Riverdale that has made that city so poor, it is the school districts and the city council that has run the city into the ground. The stores we have in Peachtree City are not our problem. We should worry about making sure that enough money is being spent at all of our store locations to make sure that as a city we can prosper.

The reason why Peachtree city isn't what it once was, is all the problems with Delta. If Delta wasn't struggling financially, Peachtree City wouldn't be in that much trouble. Now there are people who have money issues and there are people who can't sell their houses or have higher mortgages than their house is worth. All of you who claim everyone in Peachtree City doesn't need a Goodwill or doesn't need a store like this is lying to themselves. You probably don't know your neighbors well enough to know that they are in debt. Peachtree City is the type of place where you have to look like you have money. Do you really want to teach your kids that money is the most important thing? I would venture to say that many people in peachtree city have credit card debt, or very little furniture in their huge houses, because appearance is everything here.

Submitted by ptc_golfer on Sat, 09/08/2007 - 10:51pm.

Actions speak louder than words... one single day of a well planned community boycott would send a very powerful message to Kroger.

In addition, do what I am going to do. I am mailing Kroger my Kroger Plus Card with a letter since I will not need it anymore.

See you at Publix!

Submitted by Davids mom on Fri, 09/07/2007 - 2:29pm.

The only store I really miss from California. What a blessing it would be to have one right here in Fayette County! Trader Joes is an upscale store; great health foods; decent prices. PLEASE, PLEASE bring it on!!

Submitted by hoppette on Fri, 09/07/2007 - 9:34am.

Perfectly said ATLtoPTC! What a great suggestion...I for one would definitely shop at Trader Joes or Whole Foods....bring em on.

Submitted by wondering on Fri, 09/07/2007 - 12:37pm.

I have been sending messages to corporate Trader Joe's for years. Now I drive to Midtown to shop there. I think one would really do well there!
How in the world do we stop this downward turn here in PTC???

Submitted by skyspy on Fri, 09/07/2007 - 12:45pm.

How do you stop a run-away freight train?

I guess the riverdale crime crowd needs new territory, and no one here is offering resistence. We seemingly accept the crime, and the trashy developers that have the umitigated gall to threaten us.

Submitted by bowser on Fri, 09/07/2007 - 8:06am.

"The new tenant is reportedly Goodwill."

What does that mean? Reported by whom??

Anyway if that's true I'm disappointed. I was really hoping for a Big Lots. Smiling

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Submitted by eodnnaenaj1 on Fri, 09/07/2007 - 8:11am.

how about a pawn shop with liquor store attached.


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Submitted by Cyclist on Fri, 09/07/2007 - 9:36am.

Liquor store!! I thought they were "package stores" here in the south. You're not from around here. That’s OK, I don't call them "buggies" but “shopping carts”. (LOL)
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Submitted by eodnnaenaj1 on Fri, 09/07/2007 - 10:26am.

was Likker Store, and yes they are buggies, it is a poke, and there is only one kind of tea - sweet! Ain't you funny not from around here . . .hope you enjoy yourself chuckling this afternoon, 'cuz I'm outta here, thanks to all my good hard work! Y'all have a good weekend.


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Submitted by savethevinyl on Fri, 09/07/2007 - 9:29am.

Lets think really big and put an "adult" store there. It is a crying shame that we cannot attract a real grocery store like Whole Foods or Trader Vics to Peachtree City. I guess there goes another shopping center down the tubes.


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Submitted by poipendicular on Fri, 09/07/2007 - 8:04am.

We get Goodwill and Newnan gets Dillard's. Something is wrong.


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Submitted by gelato on Sat, 09/08/2007 - 11:46pm.

Sweet-smelling Dillards...we get mothball scented Goodwill. The Bubble has ceased to exist!


Submitted by hoppette on Fri, 09/07/2007 - 7:56am.

I also hate losing the "little" Kroger. The convenience of running in and out real fast was a plus. Why not get an Ingles for a little competition?

Having Goodwill move in? Give me a break, while Planterra is worried that a Quik Trip and Hooters would be bringing in the undesirables where do you think the patrons will be coming from to frequent Goodwill? Have you seen the Salvation Army in Riverdale & Newnan? Why is Peachtree City content on letting PTC go downhill.

We really have to start speaking out and put a stop to all this madness.

Submitted by eptc18 on Sun, 09/09/2007 - 10:21am.

Why are you so upset that 1 Kroger is leaving? We have two more! Undesirables..? If you feel that way maybe you should move. I understand that alot of people are very worried about what kind of problems may come with this new Goodwill but good grief. You act like there is going to be a mob of people just messing up your little Peachtree City life. Get over it. All types of places have Goodwills, rich and poor, black and white. Goodwill is about helping others. Maybe you should go and help out and maybe your eyes can be open. I just can not belive you feel this way. Maybe it is because I'm young or maybe it's because you are ignorant.

Submitted by winer on Sun, 09/09/2007 - 10:57am.

I'm guessing your about 18 and have nothing to lose. eptc18 - could that be your age or there abouts? I will stack my hours of volunteerism to yours and beat you hands down. I've got twenty years worth of close to 40 hours per week. This isn't about Goodwill or thrift shops - we have two great locations already in this community. This is about Corporate America manipulating our lives.
If this is was such a great thing - why was Kroger so sneaky?
Why did they wait until the deal was done? This only came out now because a real estate person leaked rumors to the PTC paper last week. The Little Kroger employees did not know about their store closing at the end of Sept until last Weds. They didn't know about Goodwill coming in until the paper hit the street on Thursday.

It is because you are young. You have nothing at stake here. Try to imagine the rest of your life being ruined financially because you tried to start your own business in your own community and lost it all because of corporate greed. Something totally out of your control and now it puts you in a hole you'll spend your whole life trying to dig back out. If Kroger doesn't want to be there - they can leave. The owner would let them out of that lease and bring in something desirable that would compliment the other locally owned businesses.

Submitted by eptc18 on Sun, 09/09/2007 - 11:19am.

So you didn't answer my question. Is kroger a big company? Coorporate America? Is target? Walmart? Chic Fl a? McDonalds? Dairy Queen? Rite Aid? Ruby Tuesday? Are those not all "big greedy" companies? I may be young don't get me wrong but we have so many other big companies around do we not? Why is everyone so upset about Goodwill? A company that is going to help people. I work for a small bussiness so don't think I have nothing to loose. You maybe a shop owner or you may work for Delta I don't know,and you are right I don't know how this will effect me several years from now but this maybe something postive we just don't know. I'm so sick of people thinking that just because I'am 18years old I don't know anything and that I have nothing to loose, remember I work and live here to. You just have to make the best of situations. And I bet you I have done more community work in the past 4 years or just 1 year than you have in the same amount of time.

Submitted by susieq on Sun, 09/09/2007 - 1:20pm.

People do NOT think that just because you are 18 years old you don't know anything. It's when you make it known that you don't know what you're typing about that people begin to wonder.

I was 18 once upon a time and thought I knew everything, and what I didn't know was not important (to me). Fifty years later, I am learning something new every day. So we forgive you for being 18 and not understanding.

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Submitted by Git Real on Sun, 09/09/2007 - 2:06pm.

50 + 18 = 58. And you go around telling everyone you're 39. Shocked

We need to cut the kid a break. Anyone at the age of 18 that doesn't think that "poverty is cureable" doesn't have a heart. But, anyone over 40 that continues to believe that "poverty is cureable" doesn't have a brain.

Now was that original or what? Or do I sound like Joe Biden? Puzzled

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"That man was Griffin Judicial Circuit District Attorney Scott Ballard".

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Submitted by susieq on Sun, 09/09/2007 - 2:34pm.

Basically, that's what I said -- we forgive you for being 18. It's a wonderful age, you feel as though you can conquer the world, and everything comes up roses. As to my age, I lied. LOL

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Submitted by Tug13 on Sun, 09/09/2007 - 2:34pm.

50+18= WHAT?? Smiling


Submitted by susieq on Sun, 09/09/2007 - 2:38pm.

Git forgot to use his calculator. He's not good at 'rithmetic.

Submitted by ConfushaSay on Sun, 09/09/2007 - 2:57pm.

Ha! Ha! Ha!

Atleast you are 10 years younger.

Sorry Git. You'll get me later.

Submitted by loveptc on Sun, 09/09/2007 - 2:43pm.

his silk boxers are to tight and are cutting off circulation to his brain!

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Submitted by Tug13 on Sun, 09/09/2007 - 2:41pm.

Git just doesn't have enough fingers. Smiling


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Submitted by Git Real on Sun, 09/09/2007 - 3:21pm.

I surrender. I give up. You got me Shocked

I could try to explain away my mathematical error. How about this one? Git is a product of the public school system? No? Not good enough? What more can I say?

**** GIT REAL TOUGH ON CRIME ****

"That man was Griffin Judicial Circuit District Attorney Scott Ballard".

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Submitted by eodnnaenaj1 on Mon, 09/10/2007 - 6:41am.

I don't believe it is "tighty whities waving", how about silk boxers snapping in the breeze.


Submitted by ConfushaSay on Sun, 09/09/2007 - 3:19pm.

Sharp claws & big paws

Submitted by snapfinger on Thu, 09/06/2007 - 5:28pm.

I would really hate to lose the "Little Kroger's" in town, and there is nothing wrong with Goodwill.... but why doesn't Clothes Less Traveled move there instead? They are already out of space, people on a golf cart can't get there, and parking isn't that great where they are now. This would be a much better location for them. Something to think about.

Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Thu, 09/06/2007 - 4:59pm.

I use that Kroger all the time.

Goodwill?!? Give me a break... I would say the owner of this center just took a major hit on the value of his investment. What a boneheaded business decision. Look for others to move on.

Submitted by intheknow on Thu, 09/06/2007 - 10:15pm.

Putting a Goodwill store in Peachtree City, there goes the neighborhood, and I’m afraid some of the draw of Crossings East Shopping Center. Not only will we miss the convenience of having the Kroger so close to home, but with this type of store going in, it also seems to set a negative tone to the area and Peachtree City in general. What type of consumer draw does this kind of store bring? I don't think people whom shop at a Goodwill will be the same consumers visiting the other establishments there, which could negitivly impact them.

Submitted by skyspy on Fri, 09/07/2007 - 7:09am.

We are in a downward slide to river-crime-dale. Well it was bound to happen sooner or later.

On the plus side it will be another geat place for granpa murray and the kids to set up drug stings.

Submitted by intheknow on Fri, 09/07/2007 - 1:21pm.

Crossings East Shopping Center to get new tenants:
Shopping center management announced exciting new tenant news. In addition to the recent Goodwill store as the centers new anchor, they're adding a Inserection Adult video and novelty store to be located between the new gun shop and the recently relocated pawn shop, which had relocated from Riverdale.
Management is also in final negotiations with someone planning to turn the former bank building, recently vacated, and located at the corner of Peachtree Parkway and Hwy. 54. This will become Fayette County's first and only gentleman's club, offering even more employment opportunities to area residents.

Submitted by skyspy on Fri, 09/07/2007 - 3:26pm.

A gun shop would be a great addition to PTC. Sounds like we will need one soon anyway.

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Submitted by mudcat on Fri, 09/07/2007 - 3:35pm.

We can cluster all the low-lifes everyone fears at one shopping center. The police could focus on them instead of teenagers. Maybe even open up a sub-station like they did at the Tanger Center.

Back to my old picture, so I can say "I don't have a dog in this fight" with real feelings.


Submitted by nusport on Fri, 09/07/2007 - 2:10pm.

Family robbed at gun point behind Goodwill store.
A Peachtree City family was robbed Saturday morning behind what used to be the Kroger Supermarket in the Peachtree Crossings shopping center. They were on their way to their 6 year old son's soccer game when a man jumped from behind a dumpster with a gun. The family always drove behind the Kroger to avoid automobile traffic and had not experienced any problems prior to the Goodwill opening. Police do not have a suspect.

Submitted by loveptc on Sat, 09/08/2007 - 6:53am.

Crossing East Shopping Center announces a new tenant. The recently vacated BB&T branch has been leased to Rent and Roll. You don't have to drive to Riverdale anymore to rent those rims for your ride. They will also be offering title loans.

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Submitted by Cyclist on Sat, 09/08/2007 - 8:05am.

I don't have to travel far to get those spinning wheel thingamajigs for my bicycle!!!! Pimp my ride!!!
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