How about that John Edwards

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…requiring that everybody get preventative care.

“If you are going to be in the system, you can't choose not to go to the doctor for 20 years. You have to go in and be checked and make sure that you are OK.”

Women, for example, would be required to have regular mammograms.

It will never happen of course because even among a democrat controlled congress you won’t be able to find enough people that are that stupid. But the fact that he even made such a proposal shows that mandatory mental check ups should be required among socialist health care proponents.

Maximus

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Submitted by Denise Conner on Tue, 09/11/2007 - 8:22am.

"John Edwards Thinks He's Wiser than Ben Franklin"

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin

“An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.” ~ Benjamin Franklin Smiling

"Leftists like Edwards and Moore cannot comprehend that individuals know better than government how to run their own lives. They cannot imagine that cost containment, quality of care, and technological advancement are all better in a competitive, free-market system than a one-stop-only government program."

"Thomas Jefferson was another Founding Father who feared the encroachment of big government on individual liberty. Often quoted throughout our history is his admonition, 'A government big enough to give you everything you want, is also big enough to take everything you’ve got.'"


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Submitted by hutch866 on Tue, 09/11/2007 - 12:07pm.

I don't think it's an left or right thing, it's more of a politician thing, once elected they seem to think we don't matter anymore at least untill the next election, kind of like our Gov. Perdue and the alcohol on Sunday thing.

I yam what I yam...Popeye


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Submitted by Paul Perkins on Tue, 09/11/2007 - 12:14pm.

for both parties

  • Term Limits

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Submitted by Paul Perkins on Tue, 09/11/2007 - 8:46am.

Per the previous post "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is also big enough to take everything you’ve got."

I knew I had heard that spoken by somebody in the last few days and then I remembered, it's used by Fred Thompson in the speech announcing his Presidential campaign.

Talk is cheap at this point, but you may find some encouragement on health care reform if his ideas are incorporated into the body of the campaign issues.

Here's an interesting question posed by Jay Leno on The Tonight Show

I hear Fred's taking a lot of flack for going with Leno over the Republican debate. Hey, they are both comedy shows - the only difference is that Leno is actually funny. Smiling
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Submitted by Paul Perkins on Mon, 09/10/2007 - 4:41pm.

Than the Hillary Health Care Plan which had the following, as best I can remember, buried in the 1200-1300 pages that, after a legal battle, were open to the public.

Under the 1993 Hillary Plan

  • Have a really sick kid who needs the best heart surgeon available
  • Find the best Doctor for the job
  • Take your money and pay for the doctor’s bill yourself (to avoid the 6-18 month wait in countries that have socialized medicine).
  • Realize you have just committed a felony by going outside the governmentally approved doctor for your area.
  • Realize that you traded freedom for ”security”

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which may make anything mean everything or nothing at pleasure.
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Submitted by Denise Conner on Tue, 09/11/2007 - 8:04am.



"metaphysical subtleties which may make anything mean everything or nothing at pleasure" -- Is that the same as "penumbras, formed by emanations"? Puzzled

In 1965, Justice William O. Douglas adopted Harlan’s reasoning [Justice John Marshall Harlan’s dissent in Poe v. Ullman in 1961] in the majority opinion in the case of Griswold v. Connecticut, and the right to privacy became constitutional law. . . . In order to strike down the Connecticut law prohibiting the sale of contraceptives, Douglas wrote that “specific guarantees in the Bill of Rights have penumbras, formed by emanations from those guarantees that help give them life and substance.”

[Not much "substance" in a penumbra (an astronomical term describing the partial shadow in an eclipse or the edge of a sunspot — and it is another way to describe something unclear or uncertain).]

[“Emanation” is a scientific term for gas made from radioactive decay — it also means “an emission.” Not much "substance" or "common sense" here. Lawyers who think that they're scientists and ethicists and God, too. Shocked ]

Today, legalized abortion is the law of the land because the Supreme Court decided in 1973 that its recently created constitutional right to privacy also included a new constitutional right to abortion.

If you look in the Constitution, however, you will find no general “right to privacy” any more than you will find a right to abortion — and for good reason: It’s not there. The framers assumed no general right to privacy because, to state the obvious, criminal and evil acts can be committed in privacy. Criminal codes are full of such examples — from murder to incest to rape and other crimes.

["Fetuses" (Latin for "offspring" -- in humans, the unborn young from the end of the eighth week after conception to the moment of birth, as distinguished from the earlier embryo) don't need the Supreme Court to "give them life." Arrogantly, the Supreme Court pretended to be God, having the authority to grant permission to live or not to live to our unborn young, thereby defying the concept of "unalienable rights." Sadly, our unborn young now need legal protection from those who call them "nothing" and kill them "at pleasure."]

For the full article, see "Death by Privacy" from Men in Black: How the Supreme Court Is Destroying America (Excellent book!)

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Submitted by maximus on Mon, 09/10/2007 - 8:56pm.

It will be worse for us since we don’t have any other place to go the way the Canadians do. It’s already illegal in British Columbia to pay for private surgery and now they’re trying to think of ways to keep their own citizens from coming to the United States and paying for better care. Talk about trading freedom for “security”.

Hopefully Germany will be an option for us if we’re stupid enough to socialize since they are privatizing their hospitals and injecting some free market reforms into their health insurance industry. At least They've learned.

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