PTC residents are lousy tippers.

-reserved for something more clever to say

Quality and management is what makes a restaurant. Service and Value are a close 2nd. I love going Georgia Shrimp or even PartnersII... they keep the home in hometown. The restaurants that have failed here have for the most part failed everywhere minus the lease thing with Macoroni Grill... Buckhead Brewery was horrible the 2 times I went there. Fudruckers close down everywhere.

And then location and word of mouth also plays a part. Grind & Wines was there for over a year before I discovered it. Same with Big Daddy's... the best {{{EDITED}}} crab legs and shrimp I've had anywhere without an ocean view...

Peachtree City is tapped out with the chain thing... maybe a Chipoltle or Carabeu Coffee could swing it, but the rest is just repetition.

I've stated it before... PTC needs 1 or 2 upscale chains to fill the void...

Maggianos... Cheesecake Factory... Houstons... these not only would fit in, they would thrive since the would also be destination points for the entire southern side of Atlanta...

One thing that makes business harder in PTC for restaurants is the lack of interstate travelers. When a restaurant doesn't have their act together here, word gets around and local people stay away.

At any rate we still have way too many chain McRestaurants and not nearly enough real ones. Please help support our local independent restaurants - Cafe Pig, Wines & Grinds, The Ga Shrimp Company, etc. Never been a fan of Paschal's but I know others are or they wouldn't have been here so long.

Restaurants need to always pay attention to these three things to attract and more importantly - retain - customers: Quality, value and service. Trendiness, ambience, brand recognition, etc. can only carry you so far especially here in the bubble.

paper reports 54 smokey bones closing in north central and southwestern U S, none in southeast. I would be surprised if PTC bones is closing, maybe it is.

Too many eating places means some will be closing, poor management is another cause. Tight management for the chains is the only thing that will work, hands on for mom and pop operations. Turning cash businesses over to teenagers guarantees failure at the till.

Restaurants fail because they don't have enough customers. When they come to PTC and open with a new theme, they all cite the high household income and make the case that we all eat out 4 or 5 times a week.

Obviously we don't, but the brokers and developers and site selectors perpetuate this myth. The funniest thing this year is the morons that bought Buckhead Brewery's building and now have it up for resale. They have to cut their losses - which they discovered after they closed on the building. Idiots.

What is so sad about all this is that you can measure household income aginst debt and immediately discover that almost everyone in PTC is over their heads with house payments and as a result does not have disposable income - and disposable income is what you need to support Macaroni Grill and Pascal's and the others 5 or 6 nights a week.

Poor Pascals is going out next and that is sad since he is a class act.

Buckhead Brewery failed at all of its locations....the concept and prices weren't a hit.

Macaroni Grill's food wasn't any different than any other chain and they wanted a longer term lease than the property management firm was willing to sign.

Valentino's? Probably didn't like the exorbitant lease rates in Braelinn shopping center so they decided to not renew and move.

Ginza. Changed ownership several times until it was mis-managed into closing. I think Kiku's at the Pavillion as well as Ginger House and E-Ka in Newnan probably took the majority of Ginza's business away over time.

Fuddrucker's? $10 for a hamburger, fries and a drink doesn't fly in a lot of places.

Famous Fish. Forgot to pay(or probably couldn't pay) taxes. Very overpriced seafood and the owner was an arrogant tool who got into an argument right after opening with FC Foodie in the Citizen paper of all people. Yeah, that FC Foodie is one tough critic, not!

I haven't heard anything about the PTC Smokey Bones closing. I would be really surprised because the place seems packed at lunch and dinner every day. I don't think they have a lack of business problem at all.

There are a LOT of restaurants in PTC and surrounding areas. Any downturn in the local economy(like Delta in recent years) can have abig effect on people's dining budgets and some restaurants aren't going to survive. I think the area had been over-saturated with restaurants and this is the inevitable shake-out of the places that simply aren't good enough.

NUK

The old Buckhead Brewery building is back up for sale. Not sure if the deal everyone thought was happening fell through or not.

I saw a list of Smokey Bones that closed all over the US. I did not see the PTC location on it. Could be though, I know about a month ago, they closed many stores, including the one near Northpoint Mall.

Macaroni grill closed due to the owners demanding a 10 year lease, or at least that was the word.

The space at the Avenue has been leased, I do know that.

Just ate there last night, didn't look like it was closing. Got a lot of hello's from staff and management, good service with plenty of coke refills and come and see us again type service. Didn't seem like they are closing.